Cautiously hyped for Light No Fire from the No Man's Sky team at Hello Games

It looks lovely. I'm really pleased with how No Man's Sky turned out, but I've always been more of a fantasy guy than sci fi.

Shame about alt-J though lol. Explosions in the Sky did a wonderful job on the NMS ost.


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This one looks kind of cool. To be fair, they seem to be sticking to the things they've learned to do well, so it doesn't look like an unreasonable goal. I assume they got rid of the terrain modification though. A procedural earth is fine as long as you don't need to keep track of all modifications.

The thing that I do wonder about is the networking aspect of it. Having a single environment without clear partitioning.... well, we're getting into Star Citizen ideas of seamless networking here and if you've followed that for a bit you know that this is not exactly off the shelf tech. But maybe they're going to cheat a little by having untraversable areas.

It looks lovely. I'm really pleased with how No Man's Sky turned out, but I've always been more of a fantasy guy than sci fi.

Shame about alt-J though lol. Explosions in the Sky did a wonderful job on the NMS ost.

Did you mean 65daysofstatic (and not quite even then), or did I miss something?

I'm not sure, will wait and see before i even think of this game. I got nms preordered when the hype/dupe train was at its height and i learned my lesson not to be hyped/duped again. I don't like that devs just getting free tickets. Sure they fixed nms, doesn't change that they lied and sold a false advertised product.

"A Procedural Earth - A truly open world, with no boundaries at a scale never attempted before."

Flight simulators have been doing that for decades.

As a big fan of sci-fi and space this mostly just bums me out. As great as NMS has become, it still leaves much to be desired (ships could be way more interesting, ironically the procedural gen on most stuff is lackluster). Doing basically the same thing but minus all the cool stuff like spaceships and guns but with magic and dragons seems incredibly lame, especially since it's been absolutely done to death.

As a big fan of sci-fi and space this mostly just bums me out. As great as NMS has become, it still leaves much to be desired (ships could be way more interesting, ironically the procedural gen on most stuff is lackluster). Doing basically the same thing but minus all the cool stuff like spaceships and guns but with magic and dragons seems incredibly lame, especially since it's been absolutely done to death.

The imagery (including the logo that shows up at the end) is pretty suggestive, IMHO, that this world is some kind of 'Atlas simulation' as well.

-- but yeah, NMS *without* the space exploration doesn't pique my interest either.

And as to the underdelivery of the original release of NMS: I'm pretty sure they had some kind of deal with Sony that hindered them from releasing the game labeled clearly as 'early access' -- because that's what it was, in the most honest usage of that term; but because the disclaimer was missing, people thought they were sold a lie, hence the backlash, and the bout of silence that followed the release.

So they didn't sell a lie, and *then* go on to fix it.

I should also amend my previous comment by saying that the art style in this game still looks absolutely beautiful which seems to be something Hello Games has a unique talent for, it's just that the removal of the awesome space setting for the rote, generic, fantasy magic dragons setting just fills me with a deep existential sadness.

I should also amend my previous comment by saying that the art style in this game still looks absolutely beautiful which seems to be something Hello Games has a unique talent for, it's just that the removal of the awesome space setting for the rote, generic, fantasy magic dragons setting just fills me with a deep existential sadness.

Do we have evidence of just what sort of fantasy setting it is, or are you just asserting that all fantasy settings are rote and generic?

Do we have evidence of just what sort of fantasy setting it is, or are you just asserting that all fantasy settings are rote and generic?

Just my impression based on the video. More broadly, fantasy usually means "medieval Europe with a few specific tropes largely derived from LoTR and D&D", which seems consistent with what we are seeing (e.g. architecture, weapons, dragons).

the world is literally the size of planet Earth. An open-world survival adventure with "a scale never attempted before".

If I remember correctly, a Minecraft world is about eight times the size of planet Earth.

Snark aside, the trailer makes it look very pretty, if not exactly the type of game I pref—oh my word, are those skeletal toddlers walking around eight seconds in!? Just what is going on in this world??

idk it honestly looks like a dull reskinned NMS, besides the 'ARK'- 'lets wow you with graphics' trailer. Valheim kind of proved you don't need epic graphics to be a good mythological fantasy game.

Personally I find NMS to be a complete grind fest, and i have tried really hard to 'get through it' wonder if this will be any different. I guess time will tell.

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It looks lovely. I'm really pleased with how No Man's Sky turned out, but I've always been more of a fantasy guy than sci fi.

Shame about alt-J though lol. Explosions in the Sky did a wonderful job on the NMS ost.

Did you mean 65daysofstatic (and not quite even then), or did I miss something?

Oops, yeah, got my post rock bands mixed up.

Personally I find NMS to be a complete grind fest, and i have tried really hard to 'get through it' wonder if this will be any different. I guess time will tell.

Trying to "get through it" is likely why you found it a grind. It's a sandbox game like Minecraft, just with lasers and spaceships - there's a lot of making your own entertainment involved.

Personally I find NMS to be a complete grind fest, and i have tried really hard to 'get through it' wonder if this will be any different. I guess time will tell.

Trying to "get through it" is likely why you found it a grind. It's a sandbox game like Minecraft, just with lasers and spaceships - there's a lot of making your own entertainment involved.

I feel like a big part of the grind with NMS is trying to manage a dozen things at once, while maintaining resource inventory so you don't get stuck or die somewhere, while also trying to complete various quests (personal or game). I'd love to play it in a group but it's too much for me to keep in perspective solo.

I'm hoping with this game, by focusing on just the one planet, they can make adventure more satisfying and the procedural generation more beautiful.

I do wonder if like 10 expected features will come as patches after release, lol

Do we have evidence of just what sort of fantasy setting it is, or are you just asserting that all fantasy settings are rote and generic?

Just my impression based on the video. More broadly, fantasy usually means "medieval Europe with a few specific tropes largely derived from LoTR and D&D", which seems consistent with what we are seeing (e.g. architecture, weapons, dragons).

Well, point. Mind you, science fiction usually means "modern North America with a few specific tropes largely derived from Star Trek, Star Wars, and Andre Norton" which seems consistent with my understanding of No Man's Sky.

It looks lovely. I'm really pleased with how No Man's Sky turned out, but I've always been more of a fantasy guy than sci fi.

Shame about alt-J though lol. Explosions in the Sky did a wonderful job on the NMS ost.

Did you mean 65daysofstatic (and not quite even then), or did I miss something?

Oops, yeah, got my post rock bands mixed up.

If it's another collaboration that trailer song might be it and we'll be getting ambient for gameplay. I like the idea of devs collaborating with different bands this way, honestly.

oh my word, are those skeletal toddlers walking around eight seconds in

I'm betting they're skeletal gnomes haha. Those are abnormal limb proportions for children. And on closer inspection they also have tiny horns, so maybe something other than gnomes.


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