Fortnite on Linux / Steam Deck? Not until 'tens of millions of users'

Fortnite on Linux / Steam Deck?

No thanks. Timmy Tencent doesn't know how to run a business I don't want his garbage contaminating my pristine gaming consoles. He can go hookup with Gary Newman and circle jerk about Lunix and soviet computer hacker Linyos Torovoltos hacking into your stereo to steal your music using the stolen program mp3 [ Archive.org ]

The real problem is Tim Sweeney with his crappy attitude and that he doesn't want to support Valve.

Anyway I'm not buying anything from Epic Fail Games, after they locked my account before I couldn't even install the client(!!!) because I violated their terms of use. As I asked what I did wrong? Ok, I created an account on Epic, which was obviously a big violation I didn't get an answer, just a some rude email, that they don't talk about it! I violated the terms, and thats it! About three months later I got an email in which they apologizing that my account lock was wrong, and they are very very sorry and I got 20 bucks for the store. Do they really think that I will spent any money in this 💩💩💩 store?


Last edited by Chronarius on 14 Dec 2023 at 9:59 am UTC

Tens of millions?

The goalpost is in another galaxy now.

Honestly, Epic games and Fortnite are largely irrelevant for us. They don't support us and they've made it clear they never will. So honestly, it's not even worth talking about them or their products and services at this point.

Give them the same attitude they give us. E.g: The we don't want you attitude. Forget them and move on.

I simply don't see much reason to give them free publicity or attention at this point.

I am not sure who is a bigger clown of the gaming world: is it Todd Howard or Tim Sweeney...

Have you ever seen Todd Howard and Tim Sweeney on the same stage?
Could it be that they are the same reptiloide wearing different human costumes?
Just asking questions!

Did everyone see the new Rocket League racing mode? And by that, I mean the new racing mini-game inside Fortnite. Fortnite is no longer a game, and is now a gaming ecosystem of its own.
The exclusivity they buy with Fortnite money for EGS is not to benefit the gamers, but to "benefit" the devs (if your game reaches less people, but you get paid anyway, do you care?) and to draw customers in themselves. Tim constantly says it's better for the gamers, but it's not. So at this point I just assume anything Tim says is about a "better experience" and assume it means "will make us money."

FortniteDeck when?

Dang, I guess that means we only have good games on Linux

Dunno. As far as I can see, it just means the end of semi walled gardens platforms. Sweeney might think that he can just start leeching from Google work on Android, but his win combined with Apple one is just a signal to tech firms that US law allows closed systems or open systems, no mid ground. Google will most likely rectify this by building its own iPhones. I guess it's good overall, Android was a little hypocritical in the end (technically open, but not commercially due to Google deals behind the scenes). It was just a mean to prevent the likes of Samsung, LG and the rest to play competitors at a time when Google had no hardware experience. But now it has it. For a time it will look interesting but I'm 80% sure it will end the same way as now, just with iPhones vs Pixels instead of droids. All the rest marginalized. And more transparency on the business models which doesn't hurt.

i was thinking about it right now, epic will probably try again with apple and google will appeal as well, if things stay as they are, then it will prove that US government protect proprietary systems and walled gardens while punish open ones.

its a good thing that google loses, but at least android was open source, we might lose all the positives instead of the negatives on this situation.
android might get forked with tons of oem branded brands that lose compatibility with each other as time passes because each oem want to have their own proprietary and exclusive apis, and that will show that the same can happen to linux but cant happen to microsoft.

I dont think it will though, i think android will be more windows like, google will lose it main source of revenue for developing it, and i dont think that will set a good precedent for open source in general, at least if apple dont get the same deal.
and if the same dont happen soon after for playstation, nintendo and xbox.

Did you see the bug-fugly Lego Fortnite? It's Lego assets dumped into realistic-looking vistas, which completely defeats the point of it being Lego.

!Lego Fortnite

Clearly, Epic hired This Man. (Which, as we all know, is a problem. )[/quote]
actually that was a real demmand from the players... but it came in the form of mods in the past , now big companies apropriate it as "canon" colabs...

its a double edge sword, in some cases those colabs are better than any fan made thing could do (because fans would have trouble to change too many game systems for their mods to work, compare mugem to smash bross for example, smash is well balanced and polished, mugem you have to balance it yourself or download from someone who is competent enough to do that)

It's definitely great that Epic won the antitrust case, because that means Google lost, and Google is the first large tech company in more than 20 years to lose an antitrust case. It indicates a paradigm shift. Hopefully the remedies will be meaningful.

Dunno. As far as I can see, it just means the end of semi walled gardens platforms. Sweeney might think that he can just start leeching from Google work on Android, but his win combined with Apple one is just a signal to tech firms that US law allows closed systems or open systems, no mid ground. Google will most likely rectify this by building its own iPhones. I guess it's good overall, Android was a little hypocritical in the end (technically open, but not commercially due to Google deals behind the scenes). It was just a mean to prevent the likes of Samsung, LG and the rest to play competitors at a time when Google had no hardware experience. But now it has it. For a time it will look interesting but I'm 80% sure it will end the same way as now, just with iPhones vs Pixels instead of droids. All the rest marginalized. And more transparency on the business models which doesn't hurt.

Apple won the antitrust case against Epic, didn't they?

Android is open source. It's the Google apps that aren't. Ars has a great breakdown of how Google maintains control over Android: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/07/googles-iron-grip-on-android-controlling-open-source-by-any-means-necessary/

Google has set things up such that competitors stay in their own lane and present a united front against Apple. OEMs are allowed to ship Android on devices, but if they want Google Maps, Google Play, and Google Play Services, they need to comply with Google's rules (namely, don't build an alternative app store or maintain your own Android fork). It's already a monopoly in Google's favor; it's not as if antitrust remedies could make it worse. OEMs are already at Google's mercy, except for the really big ones like Amazon and Huawei. Google is bundling two distinct products together just like IE and Windows.

Google has far less control over powerful app publishers like Epic. It's why they needed to resort to bribery to stop Epic from offering a competing service.

I don't think Epic is interested in "leeching" from Google's work on Android. They want to develop their own payment system so they don't need to give Google a 30% cut. In a competitive market, they should be allowed to do that.

Google Pixels own a pitiful percentage of the phone market compared to other Android phones (I say this owning a Pixel myself). It has less than 5% of most markets. The Nexus phones were the same way. Google Pixels, just like every other Android phone, are just a platform for Google to offer their services to Android users. Google doesn't care about making money directly from phones; they're a software company. They only built a browser so they could make Google search the default. Android exists for the same reason.

If Google stops releasing new sources for Android, Samsung will just fork it, leave the OHA, create their own Play Store and APIs for apps, start building replacements for Google's apps, and app developers will scramble to move to that platform because it's the biggest Android platform by far. Most other OEMs will flee to that fork of Android too. Google gains nothing from this, but they lose a lot.

But in case it wasn't clear, fuck Epic.

holyshit i didnt knew google gripes on android were that strong

I do hope Peter in the image is Liam's genius. Although how absurd fortnite is i could imagine them buying the rights.


Last edited by dvd on 15 Dec 2023 at 3:55 am UTC

I do hope Peter in the image is Liam's genius. Although how absurd fortnite is i could imagine them buying the rights.

It's an official thing - the same update also adds Solid Snake, who at this point is starting to look like he'd attend the opening of an envelope.

I don't know about you, but I'm getting so very tired of nonsensical inter-company crossovers that make zero sense. (Just because Batman and Mickey Mouse met Super Mario and the Gremlins in someone's childhood toybox, it doesn't mean that it could or should be made official now, y'know?)

I don't know about you, but I'm getting so very tired of nonsensical inter-company crossovers that make zero sense. (Just because Batman and Mickey Mouse met Super Mario and the Gremlins in someone's childhood toybox, it doesn't mean that it could or should be made official now, y'know?)

Mario use to visit the Pink Vice and leave coins in Bayonettas g-string everyday in my toybox......

and circle jerk about Lunix and soviet computer hacker Linyos Torovoltos hacking into your stereo to steal your music using the stolen program mp3 [ Archive.org ]

My eyes!

(until the Unreal Tournament III debacle)

This is way before my time with Linux-gaming, but I'm curious, what happened?

UT III was said to be released for Linuz (after UT 99 and 2004 had Linux versions). But it kept getting delayed over and over. Stuff leaked out that it was being held up because of some third party middleware that wasn't available for Linux, and either needed to be completely replaced, or also get ported. Think slomething like the Bink Video player.

I am sure someone else could provide more info.

The research firm Omdia reported that the Steam Deck sold 1.62 million units in 2022.[86] Their report estimates that the Steam Deck will pass 3 million units sold since its launch sometime during 2023.[86] Through 2022 and most of 2023, the Deck had been one of the most popular purchases on the Steam storefront. Valve stated in November 2023 that they had sold "multiple millions" of the Steam Deck.[87]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steam_Deck#Sales

this is only the steam deck and its not available in all region i hope valve extend the sales to all country's in the worlds and we will see it reach 5M ez

add on it PCs and Laptops running linux

If we only had a few more programmers. It’s the Linux problem

Lol, a few more programmers? What is Epic, some amateur ad-hoc company?

It's complete BS. It's Tim Sweeney problem - he doesn't like Linux gaming.


Last edited by Shmerl on 17 Dec 2023 at 8:01 pm UTC

Was that Peter Griffin from Family Guy in the thumbnail ?
I don't play Fortnite just curios about the sponsorship/crossover.

I would love to switch to a linux distro geared towards gaming but things like this is holding me back. as little as i play fortnite, when i do its with my son and yeah. i'm already seeing people saying they want to switch to linux for what microcrap is doing with windows(whether the do or no is another question).

I would love to switch to a linux distro geared towards gaming but things like this is holding me back. as little as i play fortnite, when i do its with my son and yeah. i'm already seeing people saying they want to switch to linux for what microcrap is doing with windows(whether the do or no is another question).

It's been a freeing experience for me, letting go of windows exclusive games (back in 2013). Once you truly don't care for games that don't run (or in my case, that don't natively run) you'll discover *plenty* of gems that are otherwise drowned in the sea of AAA games.