KDE Plasma 6 - Beta 1 released

Gonna give this a spin as soon as I get some free time this weekend. Excited to see what is shaping up!

yooo, the cube is back?

KDE5 did not have it, they said it was not even possible as how kwin works there. Glad that they returned it

Tempted to try it

Gentoo already has it available, if you want it. More info here:
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/KDE

I wonder if KDE is compatible with slotting, if it is I might install it in another slot and try it.

Quoting: BlackBloodRumI wonder if KDE is compatible with slotting, if it is I might install it in another slot and try it.

That's the biggest feature of Gentoo that I'm missing thesedays. Slots are glorious in how they can simplify how you think of dependencies.

Quoting: grigi

Quoting: BlackBloodRumI wonder if KDE is compatible with slotting, if it is I might install it in another slot and try it.

That's the biggest feature of Gentoo that I'm missing thesedays. Slots are glorious in how they can simplify how you think of dependencies.

It really does!

When I switched over to gentoo, it was like having all the chains that limited what I could do removed. Portage may not be fast, but from a feature and usage perspective it's the best package manager I've ever used.

I'm down the hole now, I couldn't go back to a regular distro on my desktop

I needed to get a new work desktop up and running really fast, so I thought I'd try Fedora 39 Kde, an it's working well.
I do miss the much better devtool chain and slots from Gentoo though.

I also love the rolling release thing, whereas on Fedora I have to do big upgrades every few months, instead of being to run "stable" but with "latest release" mesa and installing git Python to test that libraries will be supported on the next version.
All at the same time.

Conflicted if I should move back...

Quoting: grigi

Quoting: BlackBloodRumI wonder if KDE is compatible with slotting, if it is I might install it in another slot and try it.

That's the biggest feature of Gentoo that I'm missing thesedays. Slots are glorious in how they can simplify how you think of dependencies.

Ehh, I'm on Mint. I don't think of dependencies.

Quoting: grigiI needed to get a new work desktop up and running really fast, so I thought I'd try Fedora 39 Kde, an it's working well.
I do miss the much better devtool chain and slots from Gentoo though.

I also love the rolling release thing, whereas on Fedora I have to do big upgrades every few months, instead of being to run "stable" but with "latest release" mesa and installing git Python to test that libraries will be supported on the next version.
All at the same time.

Conflicted if I should move back...

Well, I think you should remember your own use case, and what you really need etc. It's best not to make a rash decision that you'll regret if you need the machine "just working".

If it's purely install time that's an issue, it might be worth remembering you can install Gentoo directly from within your booted Fedora, just create a directory on your root (For example, /gentoo/) extract the stage tarball to it and then continue with the Gentoo install process. This way, until it's ready you can just continue using Fedora as normal.

That'll (hopefully) leave you with a working gentoo install in /gentoo/, granted, you'll only be able to chroot into it, but it's enough to set all the basics up. When you're ready, move the files over to root ( / ) and set your boot stuff appropriately, and you've got a working gentoo install.

Note: This does carry some risks though, so do be sure to have a remediation plan. Just in case. This also isn't a complete guide, but rather a quick overview.


Last edited by BlackBloodRum on 1 December 2023 at 5:18 pm UTC

Quoting: Purple Library Guy

Quoting: grigi

Quoting: BlackBloodRumI wonder if KDE is compatible with slotting, if it is I might install it in another slot and try it.

That's the biggest feature of Gentoo that I'm missing thesedays. Slots are glorious in how they can simplify how you think of dependencies.

Ehh, I'm on Mint. I don't think of dependencies.

I'm a software developer, and honestly, Ubuntu base is the worst. They split dev dependencies into micro things and you have to install 500 little -dev packages. Fedora is at least a little better, only needed to install about 30 -develop packages for everything.

Gentoo, you always get dev dependencies.

Quoting: BlackBloodRum

Quoting: grigiI needed to get a new work desktop up and running really fast, so I thought I'd try Fedora 39 Kde, an it's working well.
I do miss the much better devtool chain and slots from Gentoo though.

I also love the rolling release thing, whereas on Fedora I have to do big upgrades every few months, instead of being to run "stable" but with "latest release" mesa and installing git Python to test that libraries will be supported on the next version.
All at the same time.

Conflicted if I should move back...

Well, I think you should remember your own use case, and what you really need etc. It's best not to make a rash decision that you'll regret if you need the machine "just working".

If it's purely install time that's an issue, it might be worth remembering you can install Gentoo directly from within your booted Fedora, just create a directory on your root (For example, /gentoo/) extract the stage tarball to it and then continue with the Gentoo install process. This way, until it's ready you can just continue using Fedora as normal.

That'll (hopefully) leave you with a working gentoo install in /gentoo/, granted, you'll only be able to chroot into it, but it's enough to set all the basics up. When you're ready, move the files over to root ( / ) and set your boot stuff appropriately, and you've got a working gentoo install.

Note: This does carry some risks though, so do be sure to have a remediation plan. Just in case. This also isn't a complete guide, but rather a quick overview.

I've installed more gentoo systems from random Linux livecds than the gentoo ones. I've been running gentoo as my primary since about 2007. Just this time I had to rush to get some work done as the ssd died and had to finish a feature for the next day.

Took a gamble on then newly released f39 fully intending to go back to gentoo when done, but now I feel lazy as f39 is working well right now.

Will see how things are the next time I need to install.