We were so close to seeing another gaming handheld ship with Linux out of the box that isn't the Steam Deck, but it seems AYANEO with the AYANEO NEXT LITE weren't convinced enough and so they've changed their minds.
Originally announced as shipping with SteamOS, but then clarified later it would be HoloISO, which is a Linux distribution that's pretty close to SteamOS. AYANEO aren't entirely dropping it though, as they will still be offering HoloISO Linux (it's like SteamOS), but the device will now instead ship with Windows 11.
Writing on X (Twitter) they put out a statement and here's the relevent bit copied out of the image:
Following the announcement of the operating system for AYANEO NEXT LITE, players and friends have shown great interest and engaged in lively discussions. Some players provided feedback indicating the continued preference for a Windows operating system. "Real Gamers, Know Gamers," and in response to this valuable feedback, we are pleased to announce that AYANEO NEXT LITE will come pre-installed with the genuine Windows 11 64-bit Home Edition operating system. Of course, players can still choose to install HoloISO on their own. AYANEO's official website provides HoloISO system images that are officially adapted and compatible for players to download and experience. The streamlined and efficient HololSO system aims to offer players a more convenient game management, smooth and stable gaming performance, lower overall power consumption, and native compatibility with both controllers and touchscreen operations. This approach aligns with the gaming habits of handheld device users, providing players with a richer selection of operating systems.
Real Gamers, Know Gamers huh? That's…a peculiar thing to say here.
This is a shame to see, as this could have helped to continue the Linux push for gaming. At least they will still be offering it up for download, but as we long-timers know, most people don't generally change their operating system on any device.
Hopefully sometime soon Valve will finally properly release SteamOS 3 for other hardware vendors, as SteamOS carries more weight to it than community-rebuilds like HoloISO. A lot of it is in the name, as players and hardware vendors would likely be more confident with SteamOS directly.
Quoting: EikeQuoting: cbstrykerAs of right now, Munich is the Linux and FOSS success story we want.
Unfortunately not:
https://www.heise.de/news/Neue-IT-Referentin-in-Muenchen-Kein-zurueck-zu-LiMux-aber-Open-Source-staerken-7191854.html
Google Translate....
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Quoting: rustybroomhandleStories like this happen every few years. In the early 2010s, a local government in some European city (I forget which) announced they were entirely switching to Linux in all their public service departments. 2 weeks go by, "no, sorry we're sticking with Windows". Turns out they had a visit from a Microsoft sales rep.I think this must happen a lot based on my anecdotal life experience. My company had a CTO who was planted from Microsoft for a while. He was making us do a lift-and-shift to Azure. Thankfully, that guy was fired after only 1-2 years, and the next CTO was like, "Stop that!"
I say this to point out that things that change for the worse can change again for the better.
Quoting: neon_soaked_chryssalidI wonder what would happen if they would have the option to choose your OS, and take off the price of Windows for the Linux version? I know OEMs get a major discount, but I think Lenovo does something similar.
Looked a few years ago into that, here in the EU you can get windows refunded if it's preinstalled, most manufacturers have some doc with how to ask for it and how much you'll get. The average was between 15 and 30€. Honestly, not worth the hassle, as they make it as hard as possible to get refunded. Because you know these kinds of laws only say they have to do it, not that it should be easy. I have seen it as low as 5€, but the manufacturer asked for a registered mail, and they cost ... around 5€.
Another example, here in France there is a new law forcing ISP and mobile carriers to have a link to cancel your contract on their website. The law doesn't say it should be easy to find, so most of them have it somewhere on their website, but not on your online dashboard, and none communicated about that new law. For my mobile carrier, it's on the front page at the very bottom. If you don't know where it is good luck to find it and if you don't even know it exists you do it the old-fashioned way via mail (no not e-mail, actual paper).
Last edited by DerpFox on 30 January 2024 at 5:20 am UTC
In China, they do have Kylin and Ubuntu Kylin as options. You would think that China would want their population to use a CCP sanctioned operating system vs the western based Windows. Many of these communist countries would love to remove their dependence on the west so they could have shipped a Kylin based OS for their Chinese customers and still use SteamOS or a custom Ubuntu for western.
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