AYANEO has now revealed the specifications and pricing for the Linux powered AYANEO Next Lite, which will be using the SteamOS-like HoloISO, although customized by AYANEO for the handheld.
Initially AYANEO announced it as using SteamOS, and later clarified to GamingOnLinux that it was actually HoloISO customized. I did ask what they've tweaked but they simply said "we've made some changes to adapt the NEXT LITE hardware and drivers, and I'm very sorry I can't tell you exactly at this time". So it's not a plain HoloISO install of course, they have done their own tweaks for their hardware.
Specifications:
- Pre-installed HoloISO Linux .
- 7" 800P IPS True Color Screen.
- AMD Ryzen™ 5 4500U / AMD Ryzen™ 7 4800U.
- 16GB LPDDR4x 4266Mhz RAM.
- Colour options: Pastel Blue / Bright White / Jet Black.
- "NEXT Grip" Ergonomic Grip.
- Hall Sensing Big Joysticks + Hall Triggers.
- Custom Dual-copper Pipe Cooling System.
- X-axis Linear Motor + Six-axis Gyroscope.
- 47Wh High-capacity Battery.
- Two USB 3.2 type C + One USB 3.2 type C (data only) + headphones jack.
- Weight: 720g.
- WiFi 6 / Bluetooth 5.2.
No date is actually being announced for release just yet, AYANEO simply told me "It will be officially available at the AYANEO online store in the near future" and that they "will offer exclusive early bird pricing for the first 100 customers, who can get the AMD 4500U version with 16G RAM and 512G stroage [sic] for just $299 with free shipping". For now, you can simply subscribe to their newsletter on the official page to get notified when it becomes available.
Main pricing will be $299 for the Ryzen 5 4500U with a 128GB SSD, $349 with a 512GB SSD and $399 for the model with an AMD Rzen 7 4800U. You'll be able to upgrade the storage as they say it supported up to 8TB with M.2 2280 PCIe 3.0 models.
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There's people not using the trackpads on Steam Deck either.!Terry Crews character Terry Jeffords from Brooklyn 99 shouting "why"
Basicly ignorance and bloat.
It's a new kind of controller and the other stuff is there too.
Why learn a new trick when the old one still works.
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No pads means sticks need to be veeeery well calibrated for desktop usage.
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There's people not using the trackpads on Steam Deck either.!Terry Crews character Terry Jeffords from Brooklyn 99 shouting "why"
Basicly ignorance and bloat.
It's a new kind of controller and the other stuff is there too.
Why learn a new trick when the old one still works.
I think it strongly depends on the games you want to play.
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Good point, I think they're relying on the usb 3.2(data only) port.Considering the price it's not that bad and actually is a solid alternative to LCD Deck.
GPU is worse, but everything else is better (well, no trackpads, but again most people wouldn't care).
The only problem is that $299 model is only 128gb and doesn't have SD card slot, which makes it kinda useless unless you plan to replace the SSD.
And of course I'm concerned on how they will support the OS (and if they will in the first place)
The first Steamdecks started as 64GB and sold quite smooth.
I bought one, too... but I wouldn't have without an SD card slot.
I bought an SD card (I think it's 256 GB) which is now sitting in the Deck, like... fire and forget. USB will be less "portable", and totally less forget. But ok, it's (another) compromise.
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Hands up: I didn't think that they'd be able to match the price of the Deck, but they have. They must've managed to get some sweet prices on components.
I definitely wouldn't get one over a Deck - awkward control layout, no trackpads, weaker GPU - but the Deck isn't an option for everyone since it's only sold in a limited number of countries.
I hope using Linux works out for them, and they use it for future models (and there's no shortage of future models with Aya Neo) as the better option rather than as the cheaper option.
I definitely wouldn't get one over a Deck - awkward control layout, no trackpads, weaker GPU - but the Deck isn't an option for everyone since it's only sold in a limited number of countries.
I hope using Linux works out for them, and they use it for future models (and there's no shortage of future models with Aya Neo) as the better option rather than as the cheaper option.
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Hands up: I didn't think that they'd be able to match the price of the Deck, but they have. They must've managed to get some sweet prices on components.
I definitely wouldn't get one over a Deck - awkward control layout, no trackpads, weaker GPU - but the Deck isn't an option for everyone since it's only sold in a limited number of countries.
I hope using Linux works out for them, and they use it for future models (and there's no shortage of future models with Aya Neo) as the better option rather than as the cheaper option.
I found some of their tricks.
Turns out sd support is actually really expensive adn
touchpad calibration and development is tough.
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I think there could be a market for that. It's smaller and competes more with stuff like the Ayn Odin, which are in the same price range - the big positive is just that it's x86 and not Arm/Android based.
If you limit your expectations a bit, it could be a nice device for somewhat older games.
If you limit your expectations a bit, it could be a nice device for somewhat older games.
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TruckStopSantaClaus 12 Jan 2024
but the Deck isn't an option for everyone since it's only sold in a limited number of countries.That's very true, The Steam Deck not be available for lets say Australia is ridicules
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Mohandevir 12 Jan 2024
Hands up: I didn't think that they'd be able to match the price of the Deck, but they have. They must've managed to get some sweet prices on components.
4000 series apu. Old tech? Could it be a rebranding of an older model's internals leftovers that they are trying to get rid off?
If so smart move, but I'm not interrested.
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Mohandevir 12 Jan 2024
Worried about the Holoiso thing. Wonder why they haven't went with something more say, reputable and actively developed, like ChimeraOS.
If I'm not remembering wrong, they were the first to sent an AYANEO to ChimeraOS team (even before Valve sent a SteamDeck), so they know about it and there's a resemblance of collaboration. Could be because of ChimeraOS's choice of using Gnome instead of KDE? (and wanting for their device to be more SteamDeck like?)
Pesonnally, I prefer Holoiso. I can use it exactly like SteamOS, on my PC. Emudeck works the same & the app store is the same. Quite similar in behavior. That may be the reason. They might have decided this, because they could not get official SteamOS from Valve, yet. Just my two cents.
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Renoir is the same Zen 2 as the Van Gogh in the Deck; the Deck just uses RDNA 2 for the GPU rather than the Vega in the mainstream chips.Hands up: I didn't think that they'd be able to match the price of the Deck, but they have. They must've managed to get some sweet prices on components.
4000 series apu. Old tech? Could it be a rebranding of an older model's internals leftovers that they are trying to get rid off?
If so smart move, but I'm not interrested.
But, yes, stock clearance would have helped with the pricing.
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Mohandevir 12 Jan 2024
Renoir is the same Zen 2 as the Van Gogh in the Deck; the Deck just uses RDNA 2 for the GPU rather than the Vega in the mainstream chips.Hands up: I didn't think that they'd be able to match the price of the Deck, but they have. They must've managed to get some sweet prices on components.
4000 series apu. Old tech? Could it be a rebranding of an older model's internals leftovers that they are trying to get rid off?
If so smart move, but I'm not interrested.
But, yes, stock clearance would have helped with the pricing.
My reasoning is not specifically linked to the chipset though. I'm not completely sure, but I think that you may find previous Ayaneo models with the same apus. Just by memory, don't take it for granted.
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Pesonnally, I prefer Holoiso. I can use it exactly like SteamOS, on my PC. Emudeck works the same & the app store is the same. Quite similar in behavior. That may be the reason. They might have decided this, because they could not get official SteamOS from Valve, yet. Just my two cents.Agree that a SteamDeck like experience is preferable, but I see HoloIso itself as a problematic choice. In my search for a SteamOS-like experience HoloIso was indeed the closest one, but was also the most problematic.
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Mohandevir 12 Jan 2024
Pesonnally, I prefer Holoiso. I can use it exactly like SteamOS, on my PC. Emudeck works the same & the app store is the same. Quite similar in behavior. That may be the reason. They might have decided this, because they could not get official SteamOS from Valve, yet. Just my two cents.Agree that a SteamDeck like experience is preferable, but I see HoloIso itself as a problematic choice. In my search for a SteamOS-like experience HoloIso was indeed the closest one, but was also the most problematic.
On that, I think you are right. They must have found a way to solve these problems internally, like I did with the updates bug, but it's a straighter way to upgrade to the official SteamOS when it's available (end user wise), if that's what they are planning to do.
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Less width-bulk and absence of redundant features, alongside attractive colour options at an even cheaper price suits me. Base model is all I need for indie games and maybe Rocket League on it instead of the Switch for better fidelity.
It just lacks a certain official touch of class - the front looks a tad communist. Narrow the side bezels and move the controls in a touch. The Logitech G Cloud nailed it aesthetically and ergonomically for me but it then has less innards.
It just lacks a certain official touch of class - the front looks a tad communist. Narrow the side bezels and move the controls in a touch. The Logitech G Cloud nailed it aesthetically and ergonomically for me but it then has less innards.
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I'm actually quite impressed.
With both Liam and Ayeneo.
Liam got himself taken seriously as an industry voice.
Ayeneo didn't only undercut Valve, but did so while keeping it future proof.
I does cost some qualities and new technologies, but only on this forum we've already seen some protest to them.
I think we all know Liam's the GOAT.
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Lack of Windows license seems to have positively affected the pricing, $299 is... Pretty darn good for a PC handheld. When accounting for inflation its pretty close to the price of the DS when that launched.
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I don't what does it stand for.I'm actually quite impressed.
With both Liam and Ayeneo.
Liam got himself taken seriously as an industry voice.
Ayeneo didn't only undercut Valve, but did so while keeping it future proof.
I does cost some qualities and new technologies, but only on this forum we've already seen some protest to them.
I think we all know Liam's the GOAT.
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Teacher
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Don't forget SteamOS long-standing issue with increasing storage consumption due to Proton prefixes, shader caches
Wasn't this fixed already? Caches are much smaller now and you can even delete the ones you're not using.
I don't what does it stand for.
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On
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Teacher
?
Greatest Of All Time
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Don't forget SteamOS long-standing issue with increasing storage consumption due to Proton prefixes, shader caches
Wasn't this fixed already? Caches are much smaller now and you can even delete the ones you're not using.
I don't what does it stand for.
Gaming
On
Ayeneo
Teacher
?
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A. Performance isn't something something you "fix" it's something you improve. Proton will always take on more space than no Proton and always be slower than no Proton. It's why it's such a shock when it manages to outperform native Windows in some contexts. Many people use Windows as the zero line, where everything faster than Windows is "good" and everything slower is "bad".
B. Thnx
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