Well this could be about to get interesting, as The Pokémon Company have actually released a statement in regards to all the speculation about Palworld amid many claims of copying Pokémon's homework.
So far, there's no really solid proof that I can see of any actual direct copying (or of any AI use that people keep claiming too). There's a good few similarities to a few Pokémon, but lots of the examples people keep sharing around don't have me overly convinced.
Here's what The Pokémon Company said (source):
Inquiries Regarding Other Companies’ Games
We have received many inquiries regarding another company’s game released in January 2024. We have not granted any permission for the use of Pokémon intellectual property or assets in that game. We intend to investigate and take appropriate measures to address any acts that infringe on intellectual property rights related to the Pokémon. We will continue to cherish and nurture each and every Pokémon and its world, and work to bring the world together through Pokémon in the future.
The Pokémon Company
They didn't name Palworld directly, likely as that might put them in hot water if nothing comes of it.
Really, this reads a bit like a "please stop emailing us" statement. It was obvious they were going to look into it. Nintendo and The Pokémon Company are notoriously tough on taking action and they already started wiping traces of a Pokémon mod for Palworld. Even Nexus Mods have said they will not be hosting any such mods.
Again, they cannot take action just because it's a game that has monster catching in it. Pokémon don't own that idea, they can't. They could only take action for actual plagiarism. And as a whole, Palworld is actually objectively a very different game to anything Pokémon has put out.
In other news, Palworld crossed 8 million copies sold now.
Last edited by McCarthee on 25 January 2024 at 6:59 pm UTC
Quoting: Mountain ManQuoting: Talon1024There is already clear-cut solid evidence of plaigiarism on the part of Pocketpair.Those examples are pretty conclusive. It's the 3D modeling equivalent of copying a paragraph, changing a few words, and then passing it off as your own work. I suspect, at the very least, the Pal World developers will be forced to remove those critters from the game.
But since they made so much money from Palworld, one would hope they would use it to hire on a few more artists so that the Pokemon ripoff designs can be replaced with less infringing designs and models.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Asmongold/comments/19eluud/the_guy_who_accused_palworld_of_stealing_pokemon/
dude providing the evidence rescaled the models to fit.
Reason for doing it was he dislike animal abuse :)
Quoting: TheRiddickThis was probably spurred up by Pokemon cultists frothing at the mount in anger on reddit who no doubt were hounding Nintendo and Pokemon company every 5minutes to sue/delete PalWorld!
Seems more of an indictment of brand loyalty and its insanity.
Pocket Pair is in the all clear anyways as one look at the game credits show that Lakshya Digital (https://www.lakshyadigital.com/about) was contracted for the monster designs.
Quoting: NasteriumRemember, kids--brands aren't loyal back.Quoting: TheRiddickThis was probably spurred up by Pokemon cultists frothing at the mount in anger on reddit who no doubt were hounding Nintendo and Pokemon company every 5minutes to sue/delete PalWorld!
Seems more of an indictment of brand loyalty and its insanity.
Quoting: NyxQuoting: Mountain ManQuoting: Talon1024There is already clear-cut solid evidence of plaigiarism on the part of Pocketpair.Those examples are pretty conclusive. It's the 3D modeling equivalent of copying a paragraph, changing a few words, and then passing it off as your own work. I suspect, at the very least, the Pal World developers will be forced to remove those critters from the game.
But since they made so much money from Palworld, one would hope they would use it to hire on a few more artists so that the Pokemon ripoff designs can be replaced with less infringing designs and models.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Asmongold/comments/19eluud/the_guy_who_accused_palworld_of_stealing_pokemon/
dude providing the evidence rescaled the models to fit.
Reason for doing it was he dislike animal abuse :)
So I can make what is effectively a carbon copy of another 3D modeler's work and call it my own as long as I scale my model up or down? That doesn't sound right, but perhaps I've misunderstood what you mean by "rescaled".
Quoting: Mountain ManI'm finding it all quite confusing. Maybe it's a reptilian critter and they actually mean putting different scales on it.Quoting: NyxQuoting: Mountain ManQuoting: Talon1024There is already clear-cut solid evidence of plaigiarism on the part of Pocketpair.Those examples are pretty conclusive. It's the 3D modeling equivalent of copying a paragraph, changing a few words, and then passing it off as your own work. I suspect, at the very least, the Pal World developers will be forced to remove those critters from the game.
But since they made so much money from Palworld, one would hope they would use it to hire on a few more artists so that the Pokemon ripoff designs can be replaced with less infringing designs and models.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Asmongold/comments/19eluud/the_guy_who_accused_palworld_of_stealing_pokemon/
dude providing the evidence rescaled the models to fit.
Reason for doing it was he dislike animal abuse :)
So I can make what is effectively a carbon copy of another 3D modeler's work and call it my own as long as I scale my model up or down? That doesn't sound right, but perhaps I've misunderstood what you mean by "rescaled".
Quoting: Mountain ManSo I can make what is effectively a carbon copy of another 3D modeler's work and call it my own as long as I scale my model up or down?
More or less, provided you made it yourself. But also tweak some details to make it transformative.
I think there is some legal thing where it needs to be %10 different.
But it also comes down to what influenced the original model, is it really unique or just another copy of something else.
Quoting: Mountain ManQuoting: NyxQuoting: Mountain ManQuoting: Talon1024There is already clear-cut solid evidence of plaigiarism on the part of Pocketpair.
But since they made so much money from Palworld, one would hope they would use it to hire on a few more artists so that the Pokemon ripoff designs can be replaced with less infringing designs and models.
Those examples are pretty conclusive. It's the 3D modeling equivalent of copying a paragraph, changing a few words, and then passing it off as your own work. I suspect, at the very least, the Pal World developers will be forced to remove those critters from the game.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Asmongold/comments/19eluud/the_guy_who_accused_palworld_of_stealing_pokemon/
dude providing the evidence rescaled the models to fit.
Reason for doing it was he dislike animal abuse :)
So I can make what is effectively a carbon copy of another 3D modeler's work and call it my own as long as I scale my model up or down? That doesn't sound right, but perhaps I've misunderstood what you mean by "rescaled".
I just briefly went over it but as I understood it, was it not simply global size resize but but individual y and x axis proportions to align with the model
But that's just how I understood otherwise I can't see why he would apologise for modification.
Quoting: PenglingThere is some worryingly cult-like behaviour out there regarding Nintendo. I'm a former fan myself, but never fitted in with the fandom because when the company got things wrong, I took issue with it and shared opinions on how they could improve, as any sane person would. That gets you run out of town in those circles
I've been cut out from a chat group because I decided I wasn't having it anymore from Nintendo with all they've been doing. Apparently for some cultists, disagree with Nintendo and treat them like a company and not like a friend is a sin or something. Not that I care tho.
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