So not only are Manjaro teaming up with Orange Pi for the Orange Pi Neo gaming handheld, they're also working with Slimbook for the new Manjaro Slimbook Hero gaming laptop.
Announced by both teams with a dedicated page on the Manjaro Website, the news post from Slimbook mentions "In recent years, there has been a noticeable growth in gaming support for Linux, thanks to initiatives like Valve's Proton, which enables Windows games to run on Linux systems. As a result of this progress, Slimbook and Manjaro are delighted to announce the launch of their highly anticipated gaming laptop designed to exceed gaming expectations, the Manjaro Slimbook".
Some of the specs:
- CPU: Intel Core i7-13620H.
- GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 8GB.
- Multicolored RGB keyboard with Linux-compatible software.
- Display: 15.6" WQHD 2560*1440px 165 Hz.
- Ports: 2x USB 3.2, 1x USB 2.0, 1x USB-C, 3.2, HDMI 2.1, MiniDP.
- Connectivity: RJ45, Wifi 6, Bluetooth 5.2.
- 16GB 5200MHz DDR5 (up to 64GB).
- 250GB NVMe (up to 2TB x 2).
Price starts at 1,399€.
Always good to see more Linux hardware. Does it sound like something you might be interested in?
You can see more and order from Slimbook.
Quoting: pete910Shame no AMD option!
They definitely seem to have misread the mood r.e. Linux gamers hardware and distro choices!
https://www.gamingonlinux.com/index.php?module=statistics&view=trends#CPUVendor-top
https://www.gamingonlinux.com/index.php?module=statistics&view=trends#GPUVendor-top
https://www.gamingonlinux.com/index.php?module=statistics&view=trends#LinuxDistributionsSplit-top
It'll probably ship with X11 GNOME too.
Quoting: WorMzyQuoting: pete910Shame no AMD option!
They definitely seem to have misread the mood r.e. Linux gamers hardware and distro choices!
https://www.gamingonlinux.com/index.php?module=statistics&view=trends#CPUVendor-top
https://www.gamingonlinux.com/index.php?module=statistics&view=trends#GPUVendor-top
https://www.gamingonlinux.com/index.php?module=statistics&view=trends#LinuxDistributionsSplit-top
It'll probably ship with X11 GNOME too.
Indeed!
Not even remotely interested in that hardware config, Looked to see if they did others but nope!
mini-DP on a laptop, in 2024? Strange, but I suppose it's better than no DP.
Last edited by Relsre on 15 February 2024 at 6:04 pm UTC
at least system76 have their finger on the pulse.
Last edited by Lofty on 15 February 2024 at 6:08 pm UTC
Sometimes Nvidia and Intel feel the same. To Intel's credit they have a open driver but it seems in the mobile space Nvidia has had a unbreakable monopoly with the right people in Asia.
The iron fist of somebody holding blackmail almost.
It really makes me wonder why there aren't competitive options.
AMD clearly has made inroads with getting all the game console contracts.
I don't think the industry is as tonedeaf as they pretend to be.
I think there is a invisible force and buko Nvidia bucks that know how to make sure these "vendors" keep making the "correct choice" Chicago mafia style.
The Linux market clearly wants AMD* for the open source driver for years and the consumer options for a beefy AMD GPU-Tank have been slim to none.
Last edited by ElectricPrism on 15 February 2024 at 6:48 pm UTC
Quoting: GuestAlso, I don't want to start a flame war, but isn't Manjaro a bad operating system? I heard multiple Linux people say that it's not good.
It gets a bad rap tbh, Mainly because people enable the AUR and don't take notice of what they are installing or more importantly what deps it will install.
I've run it for a few years now with no issues.
Quoting: GuestRunning some numbers, it looks like System76 runs better deals for us in the US.
Also, I don't want to start a flame war, but isn't Manjaro a bad operating system? I heard multiple Linux people say that it's not good.
But flame wars are a SOAP opera and good for website viewership, haven't you heard ;) :P /s
Kidding aside, Manjaro's reputation is a bit ... infamous? They had some internal developer conflict over how to spend donations on dev equipment, their scripts DDoSed Arch repositories a couple times on accident, they had expired SSL certificates, I've known IRL people who have used their OS with mixed results (What i mean by that is that Manjaro was easier to install at the time and Arch was a better experience and more stable)
All in all as a judge of character I would probably esteem them as having a slight immaturity, having growing pains and some judgement and execution of vision imperfections.
In the same way that Purism has gotten a lot of vitrol criticism over the years, I am happy to forgive each as their contributions to the ecosystem have been invaluable.
Now, to reverse the criticism Manjaro has done a lot of good providing a low barrier to Arch (gateway drug, kidding ;P), and I do think their KDE Mobile Manjaro stack is a feather in their cap. Although their hardware is of no interest to me personally I do credit them for making it more common to have Linux First hardware.
At the end of the day the old saying comes to Mind
QuoteDon't let the perfect be the enemy of the good
Manjaro has done well overall, I wouldn't expect perfection but they are pretty good, a solid 8 or 8.5 out of 10.
Quoting: pete910Shame no AMD option!To be fair finding any laptop with a AMD gpu is hard as hell (excluding Framework 16)
Quoting: GuestRunning some numbers, it looks like System76 runs better deals for us in the US.I'll just say that, last I checked, Manjaro held Arch's packages back for two weeks, so there is no guarantee that the AUR packages will work properly if they expect newer versions of system packages as dependencies.
Also, I don't want to start a flame war, but isn't Manjaro a bad operating system? I heard multiple Linux people say that it's not good.
Quoting: ElectricPrismAMD clearly has made inroads with getting all the game console contracts.cough cough switch cough cough
Quoting: ElectricPrismAMD clearly has made inroads with getting all the game console contracts.
Quoting: elmapulcough cough switch cough coughWhich, it should be noted, is currently sailing towards becoming the best-selling console of all time, no less. Its successor is claimed to use Nvidia hardware, too.
Anyway, I wouldn't want Nvidia in a Linux box myself, so though this device is nice to see, it's not for me - Nvidia's more hassle than it's worth, for me. As an almost entirely portables-focussed user (my only non-portable is a Raspberry Pi 4), I've had better experiences with Intel and AMD.
Last edited by Pengling on 16 February 2024 at 3:21 am UTC
Well kudos for Manjaro! Anything which puts "preinstalled Linux on well supported hardware out of the box" in the hands of consumers is a good thing.
Quoting: GuestAlso, I don't want to start a flame war, but isn't Manjaro a bad operating system? I heard multiple Linux people say that it's not good.
I have used Manjaro for years and it was awesome but they tends to have problem with stupid things* so it ended being more trouble than just using Arch directly or Endeavour which is like Manjaro but better. When Endeavour team do a mistake, their apologize on the front page on their website and the mistake is not repeated. I got fed up about things breaking regularly due to Manjaro mismanagement with the solution being shared on the forum by the community.
* For example, they forgot multiple time to renew their SSL which broke package installation and the 2-weeks release cycle ends up being more of a liability than a boon. Apparently they messed up other project on pine too but I'm not sure about that one.
Quoting: GuestRunning some numbers, it looks like System76 runs better deals for us in the US.
Also, I don't want to start a flame war, but isn't Manjaro a bad operating system? I heard multiple Linux people say that it's not good.
Why is it bad? Its arch based, they test the updated before stable so it’s not as cutting edge as arch.
They got a great nvidia driver panel, it’s a lot more stable then Ubuntu, any os is more stable then deb based in my opinion, they always seems to break for me.
Valve recommends manjaro for there alternative to steam os. So it can’t be that bad if valve recommends it. To me manjaro is Linux mint with a twist for arch based os’es. A bit more newer software and cutting edge software then mint.
Even the kinda point release Arch Linux SteamOS 3 is flunky at times.
Then considering these devices are handed to the "not so tech savvy" folks.
Does Manjaro still do manual testing? Or did they finally moved to use something like OpenQA for their package integrity and bug testing?
If it comes to rolling release or semi-rolling Release openSUSE Tumbleweed, Aeon, Kalpa and Fedora and Silverblue are unrivaled in stability and reliability.
While openSUSE has a better shot at avg. Desktops users as there is simply never the need for a release update as it is common for Fedora and Manjaro. So the user just keeps on rollin while Aeon and Kalpa are fully automated and wouldn't even messup a Nvidia driver update.
Couldn't they have teamed up with openSUSE or Fedora? Those guys already know how to get immutable desktops right. :/
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