Ubuntu 24.04 LTS (Noble Numbat) is now available

Updated from 23.10 to 24.04. Running great. Just the run of the mill boring LTS update, no exciting new features. Everything works well except a manual package I installed (Wezterm) and one gnome extension that's not Gnome 46 ready. Switched to similar extension that was 46 ready, and also switched over to the Wezterm ppa. I look forward to another stable boring 6 months.

While we can still package and update important additional applications outside of the ubuntu repositories, i think we need an additional gaming repo that is kind of rolling.
(and we need to get rid of this snap pack nonsense for everything)
Wine-Releases are a huge bonus if you get the biweekly ones from their repo.
There are tools for Cooling & RGB like polychromatic, CoolerControl or OpenRazer that would be beneficial by default as well.
I am actively looking into remixing the official ISO with all these nice little helpers so i can safely give it to friends and all the recommended stuff is already there.
Any idea how i can pre-configure addons&settings for Firefox in this way?

Because it's much easier to only change your build environment every 4 years instead of every 2 years.

Not sure about that. You shouldn't sink too deep in the mud...

I am a developer of enterprise software so yes this is exactly how at least that part of the industry works and thinks.

Yeah. I'm developer of industry software too, and we're doing our best to not do such things anymore. Bits do rot.

Not sure what mud you talk about, I have build environments that work for CentOS 4 still due to customer demand :)

For old software, we're keeping old environments around as well.

Only rearranging your build environment every 4 years instead of every 2 years isn't really how I would defined bit rot ;). Heck all the QA some of our customers have to perform on each release before they certify it for production takes almost those 4 years.


Last edited by F.Ultra on 28 Apr 2024 at 2:48 pm UTC

Only rearranging your build environment every 4 years instead of every 2 years isn't really how I would defined bit rot ;).

To be honest, the examples I was thinking of were quite longer than 2 or 4 years. But I'd still prefer to be closer to the wave. Like changing every two years to the LTS version that's a year old at that time.

Heck all the QA some of our customers have to perform on each release before they certify it for production takes almost those 4 years.

That sounds strange. I don't want to disclose more (not that it is very secret stuff, I just want to keep it private), but our customers would be counted as critical infrastructure and they are careful and... reluctant to change, but as far as I know, even they are a bit faster than that.

a bit of a shame they couldn't get Plasma 6 in time for Kubuntu.

a bit of a shame they couldn't get Plasma 6 in time for Kubuntu.

same story for lubuntu with lxqt 2.0

How do you install Gamescope on Ubuntu 24.04? Package is available throw official Ubuntu depots?


Last edited by legluondunet on 29 Apr 2024 at 6:07 pm UTC

Only rearranging your build environment every 4 years instead of every 2 years isn't really how I would defined bit rot ;).

To be honest, the examples I was thinking of were quite longer than 2 or 4 years. But I'd still prefer to be closer to the wave. Like changing every two years to the LTS version that's a year old at that time.

Heck all the QA some of our customers have to perform on each release before they certify it for production takes almost those 4 years.

That sounds strange. I don't want to disclose more (not that it is very secret stuff, I just want to keep it private), but our customers would be counted as critical infrastructure and they are careful and... reluctant to change, but as far as I know, even they are a bit faster than that.

Well it was mostly an exaggeration to paint the picture :). Many of our customers are banks and most of their internal QA is so long and resource intensive that they complained massively one time when he had two releases per year asking if we could promise going forward to have max one release per year, and that instance have always been there nagging me in the back of the mind (as a developer I want to do changes now as soon as I hear about the bug or about a great suggestion and not have to pre-announce it for years on end).

Non-gold medal to Morningstar who took close to 6 years to remove a line in a static file on their ftp server once, now that is moving at light speed :)

How do you install Gamescope on Ubuntu 24.04? Package is available throw official Ubuntu depots?

it is in multiverse:

 
f.ultra@Sineya:~$ apt-cache policy gamescope
gamescope:
  Installerad: 3.12.3-1
  Kandidat:    3.12.3-1
  Versionstabell:
 *** 3.12.3-1 500
        500 http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu mantic/multiverse amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
f.ultra@Sineya:~$ 

The above on a 23.10

How do you install Gamescope on Ubuntu 24.04? Package is available throw official Ubuntu depots?

it is in multiverse:

 
f.ultra@Sineya:~$ apt-cache policy gamescope
gamescope:
  Installerad: 3.12.3-1
  Kandidat:    3.12.3-1
  Versionstabell:
 *** 3.12.3-1 500
        500 http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu mantic/multiverse amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
f.ultra@Sineya:~$ 

The above on a 23.10

As of yet, the gamescope package doesn't seem to be available for 24.04 according to packages.ubuntu.com.

How do you install Gamescope on Ubuntu 24.04? Package is available throw official Ubuntu depots?

it is in multiverse:

 
f.ultra@Sineya:~$ apt-cache policy gamescope
gamescope:
  Installerad: 3.12.3-1
  Kandidat:    3.12.3-1
  Versionstabell:
 *** 3.12.3-1 500
        500 http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu mantic/multiverse amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
f.ultra@Sineya:~$ 

The above on a 23.10

As of yet, the gamescope package doesn't seem to be available for 24.04 according to packages.ubuntu.com.

yeah I can see on http://mirror.accum.se/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/g/gamescope/ that only the 3.12.3-1 package is hosted and the version for 24.04 should be 3.14 , now multiverse is community driven AFAIK so some one probably haven't had time to add it yet.

edit: looks to be a dependency issue:
https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gamescope/+question/809298
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1058493


Last edited by F.Ultra on 29 Apr 2024 at 9:31 pm UTC

edit: looks to be a dependency issue:
https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gamescope/+question/809298
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1058493

Crazy disappointing considering Ubuntu 23.10 had Gamescope, and it's needed to use lots of nice features. Could they not have just used the older version that has the old dependencies?
Can Gamescope be installed as a Flatpak or Snap?


Last edited by WYW on 1 May 2024 at 7:26 pm UTC

edit: looks to be a dependency issue:
https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gamescope/+question/809298
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1058493

Crazy disappointing considering Ubuntu 23.10 had Gamescope, and it's needed to use lots of nice features. Could they not have just used the older version that has the old dependencies?
Can Gamescope be installed as a Flatpak or Snap?

So if they merged those two projects, would you call them Flatsnaks?

edit: looks to be a dependency issue:
https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gamescope/+question/809298
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1058493

Crazy disappointing considering Ubuntu 23.10 had Gamescope, and it's needed to use lots of nice features. Could they not have just used the older version that has the old dependencies?
Can Gamescope be installed as a Flatpak or Snap?

question is if the deb for 23.10 could be force installed on 24.04, the dependencies for gamescope on 23.10 are "libc6 (>= 2.38), libcap2 (>= 1:2.10), libdisplay-info1 (>= 0.1.1), libdrm2 (>= 2.4.113), libgcc-s1 (>= 3.3.1), libliftoff0 (>= 0.3.0), libopenvr-api1 (>= 1.23.7~ds1), libpipewire-0.3-0 (>= 0.3.1), libsdl2-2.0-0 (>= 2.26.0), libstdc++6 (>= 13.1), libvulkan1 (>= 1.2.131.2), libwayland-client0 (>= 1.20.0), libwayland-server0 (>= 1.14.91), libwlroots11 (>= 0.16.0), libx11-6, libx11-xcb1 (>= 2:1.8.6), libxcb1, libxcomposite1 (>= 1:0.4.5), libxdamage1 (>= 1:1.1), libxext6, libxfixes3 (>= 1:5.0), libxkbcommon0 (>= 1.0.0), libxmu6 (>= 2:1.1.3), libxrender1, libxres1 (>= 2:1.2.1), libxtst6, libxxf86vm1, xwayland" so if all of those exists and have not changed ABI then it should work, or else someone have to compile from source.

Downloading a 24.04 iso now to try in VirtualBox.

edit: ok so I now managed to install the 23.11 package of gamescope on 24.04. Don't know if it works since the emulated default GPU in VirtualBox doesn't support 3d (so no vulkan) but I got the package to install and run (except that it couldn't open a vulkan window).

Steps:
 
sudo apt install libdisplay-info1 libjsoncpp25 libliftoff0 libopenvr-api1t64 libsdl2-2.0-0 libseat1 libxcb-composite0 libxcb-ewmh2 libxcb-xinput0
wget http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/w/wlroots/libwlroots11_0.16.2-3_amd64.deb
wget http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/g/gamescope/gamescope_3.12.3-1_amd64.deb
sudo dpkg -i libwlroots11_0.16.2-3_amd64.deb gamescope_3.12.3-1_amd64.deb


Last edited by F.Ultra on 2 May 2024 at 4:47 pm UTC

My M2 drive just died in my gaming laptop so I replaced it and tried the ubuntu 24.04 installer. It crashed about 6 times during the install process! I gave up and installed endeavourOS. Wow what a nice distro!
I normally like ubuntu but this poor installer and the endless snap fiasco is really starting to annoy me.