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Linux Mint 22 "Wilma" is officially out now, as their next long-term supported release with updates until 2029 based on Ubuntu 24.04. With this release they've switched to Pipewire and you get kernel 6.8 for newer hardware support.


Pictured - Linux Mint 22 Cinnamon

I already previously covered the Beta and not much has changed apart from various bug fixes.

As a reminder here's some of what's new:

  • Better language support.
  • Thunderbird as a .deb package supported by Mint, instead of Ubuntu's Snap.
  • Big improvements to the Software Manager:
    • Improved multi-threading, a new preferences page and a banner slideshow.
    • Verified Flatpaks show the maintainer name.
    • Unverified Flatpaks disabled by default (and clearly marked if enabled).
  • Various artwork improvements.
  • HiDPI support improvements were made in the boot sequence, in Plymouth and Slick-Greeter.
  • A new Matrix Web App for chat, replacing Hexchat.

Plus there's lots of updates to the Cinnamon 6.2 desktop too including:

  • Wayland support: Clutter polkit agent.
  • Spices: keybindings support.
  • Better avatar support in polkit agent and user applet.
  • Workspace switcher: middle click removes the workspace being hovered.
  • Keybindings: ability to search by binding.
  • Cornerbar applet: shift+click action added.
  • Applets: improved precision in reporting VPN and battery states.

See more on the release notes and what's new.

Are you a Mint user? What do you think to this release? Let me know in the comments.

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But there is no Wayland support even still for Cinnamon and Xfce (Mint's main desktops) it looks like? Whereas Ubuntu and others do have it nicely now.
rea987 Jul 26
So, is there Wayland or XWayland support for Mate?
Ponda Jul 26
Firstly, Cinnamon is their main desktop, considering they are the ones developing it and that it is responsible for 43% of downloads or 69% including Edge channel (now deprecated as mainline Mint ships with newer kernel) and LMDE, which include only Cinnamon as their DE.
Xfce, Mate and Cinnamon all work towards Wayland session. Mint ships Cinnamon's experimental session by default and while buggy and incomplete, it's already quite usable. Mint teams expects full feature-parity and stability of Wayland, including XWayland, (relative to X11 session) for 23 release in 2026.
Quoting: PondaMint ships Cinnamon's experimental session by default and while buggy and incomplete, it's already quite usable

Buggy and incomplete is "usable"

Using for example Ubuntu under Wayland is SOLID. Mint team and Cinnamon are obviously behind the times, sorry to say because Mint is a very good distro otherwise. Mint is always still behind Ubuntu by a mile
Oh dear, then there is this:

QuoteIn an unexpected move, Linux Mint 22 downgrades some of its preinstalled apps to older versions — not something most of us would expect when installing a newer version of a Linux distribution!

Why has this happened?

Many of the latest versions of these apps adopt GTK4/libadwaita for their UI, which Linux Mint dislikes, feeling it impacts the look, feel, and integration of apps with the rest of the non-GNOME desktops like Cinnamon – they stand out like a sore thumb, basically.

As a result, many apps have been downgraded to older GTK3 builds.


https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/07/linux-mint-22-released-based-on-ubuntu-24-04
Quoting: dziadulewiczBut there is no Wayland support even still for Cinnamon and Xfce (Mint's main desktops) it looks like? Whereas Ubuntu and others do have it nicely now.
I believe MATE and XFCE are far closer to a complete Wayland session than Cinnamon is. MATE has had a Wayland session for a while, and XFCE is close. Cinnamon might have more manpower than XFCE, but they said they wouldn't have a stable Wayland session before 2026, and that sounds reasonable.

The decision to fork older versions of these base desktop programs makes sense, but I don't like it. It doesn't matter much because you can still install newer versions via Flatpak.
tuubi Jul 26
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Quoting: pleasereadthemanualThe decision to fork older versions of these base desktop programs makes sense, but I don't like it. It doesn't matter much because you can still install newer versions via Flatpak.

And you can override and install the newer versions of these packages from the Ubuntu apt repositories if you really want to.

I doubt I'll bother, even if I do run file roller and gnome calculator sometimes.
Quoting: dziadulewiczOh dear, then there is this:

QuoteIn an unexpected move, Linux Mint 22 downgrades some of its preinstalled apps to older versions — not something most of us would expect when installing a newer version of a Linux distribution!

Why has this happened?

Many of the latest versions of these apps adopt GTK4/libadwaita for their UI, which Linux Mint dislikes, feeling it impacts the look, feel, and integration of apps with the rest of the non-GNOME desktops like Cinnamon – they stand out like a sore thumb, basically.

As a result, many apps have been downgraded to older GTK3 builds.


https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/07/linux-mint-22-released-based-on-ubuntu-24-04
I was worried about this, then I checked the link and looked through until I found that bit, and
QuoteApps downgraded to older versions (than the ones present in the Ubuntu 24.04 repos) include Celluloid, GNOME Calculator, Simple Scan, Disk Usage Analyser, System Monitor, GNOME Calendar, and the archive extraction/compression tool File Roller.
Big deal. Those are mature apps where I don't care about the version. Not like they're using old Libreoffice or GIMP or something.
Marlock Jul 27
i love every little thing Mint did regarding the X-Apps initiative

often when Gnome goes hectic, there's something done in X-Apps to mitigate it, which ends up catering for a wide array of DEs and distros

ps:
Muffin has been rebased recently to a newer branch of Mutter, plus they significantly reduced the diffs between those projects, making it easier to rebase it again in the future


Last edited by Marlock on 27 July 2024 at 12:45 am UTC
Quoting: Purple Library GuyBig deal. Those are mature apps where I don't care about the version. Not like they're using old Libreoffice or GIMP or something.
Well, for me, the Celluloid downgrade is kind of a big deal! The patch to support multiple scripts inside of folders only landed a few months ago and hasn't hit stable yet. That means mpvacious won't work on the older version of Celluloid. And I still need to do the work for the Celluloid flatpak to make it work.

Edit: It has hit stable now: https://github.com/celluloid-player/celluloid/releases/tag/v0.27

Maybe I should hurry up and do the quick patches for the Celluloid Flatpak.


Last edited by pleasereadthemanual on 27 July 2024 at 2:58 pm UTC
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