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PayPalThe Manjaro Linux team have announced the first round of testing for their new Manjaro Immutable version of the popular Linux distribution.
It's built using Arkdep which is a "Toolkit for building, deploying and maintaining an immutable, atomic, btrfs-based system". Along with also using Arkane Linux a "opinionated, immutable, atomic Arch-based distibution".
The goal of this release is to gather community feedback on the technology powering Manjaro Immutable.
Note that this is only an experimental release and not representative of the final version, there is also no support guarantee, so hold off on installing it as your primary operating system, at least for now.
Manjaro Team
It's probable this is what they're using as the basis for Manjaro Gaming Edition, which is what will be shipping on their upcoming Orange Pi Neo gaming handheld. In fact, Manjaro's own Philip Müller commented to mention how it's "useful if you have devices like a gaming handheld or a business which wants to ease the maintenance efforts of their employees".
Another developer also mentioned this is not intended to replace the standard Manjaro.
Anyone brave enough to give it a spin can see more details in the announcement.
Article taken from GamingOnLinux.com.
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I just installed Kinoite on my laptop (secondary system) myself. So far so good. All the Atomic stuff seems so fancy and the computer magic behind btrfs goes over my head, but I am impressed.
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https://boilingsteam.com/linux-distro-july-2024/
Manjaro seems to be fading away according to those stats. Over the past two years it's lost a ton, and if that continues, in another two years (or less) it'll be totally gone. I know those stats don't represent every single linux gaming computer out there, but still, it's something to go on. I am a direct contributor to those stats though. I used to use manjaro, but didn't like it and switched from it to opensuse and have been very happy ever since.
BoilingSteam specifically says this about Manjaro:
Manjaro seems to be fading away according to those stats. Over the past two years it's lost a ton, and if that continues, in another two years (or less) it'll be totally gone. I know those stats don't represent every single linux gaming computer out there, but still, it's something to go on. I am a direct contributor to those stats though. I used to use manjaro, but didn't like it and switched from it to opensuse and have been very happy ever since.
BoilingSteam specifically says this about Manjaro:
QuoteThe one thing I’m confident about is the fact that Manjaro is probably going to fall even further. I just don’t see a reason for it to exist, and it has destroyed its own credibility over and over again.
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Vortex_Acherontic Aug 6
Okay, now you have to also to talk about openSUSE Aeon and Kalpa :D
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Quoting: JarmerBoilingSteam specifically says this about Manjaro:“… I’m confident … probably …”
Yes. Probably confident. I agree that Manjaro has done unfortunate things.
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dziadulewicz Aug 6
Quoting: KlaasQuoting: JarmerBoilingSteam specifically says this about Manjaro:“… I’m confident … probably …”
Yes. Probably confident. I agree that Manjaro has done unfortunate things.
Then again what distros have not? Some dropped using pure Arch after they moved to systemd which was found unfortunate with some (insane reason IMO but yeah they did).
Arch seems to be best as a BASE (like SteamOS) rather than a distro (which it's also kind of is not since user chooses what's to be installed, apart from few things).
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Quoting: dziadulewiczQuoting: KlaasQuoting: JarmerBoilingSteam specifically says this about Manjaro:“… I’m confident … probably …”
Yes. Probably confident. I agree that Manjaro has done unfortunate things.
Then again what distros have not? Some dropped using pure Arch after they moved to systemd which was found unfortunate with some (insane reason IMO but yeah they did).
Arch seems to be best as a BASE (like SteamOS) rather than a distro (which it's also kind of is not since user chooses what's to be installed, apart from few things).
https://nosystemd.org/
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Quoting: Nitsugahttps://nosystemd.org/
Whoa what a rabbit hole. I assume there's a half good reason to bear such hatred towards some OS component but I don't really need or want to know about it, just sounds pretty hardcore.
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Quoting: Jarmerhttps://boilingsteam.com/linux-distro-july-2024/
Manjaro seems to be fading away according to those stats. Over the past two years it's lost a ton, and if that continues, in another two years (or less) it'll be totally gone. I know those stats don't represent every single linux gaming computer out there, but still, it's something to go on. I am a direct contributor to those stats though. I used to use manjaro, but didn't like it and switched from it to opensuse and have been very happy ever since.
BoilingSteam specifically says this about Manjaro:
QuoteThe one thing I’m confident about is the fact that Manjaro is probably going to fall even further. I just don’t see a reason for it to exist, and it has destroyed its own credibility over and over again.
I am surprised that Garuda Linux is showing up on their graph and isn't grouped in with Arch, along with even surpassing OpenSUSE.
This as it's a layer-distro on top of the base Arch repos, though the tweaks made to the standard installation are significant if still reproducable on Arch.
OpenSUSE seems like a more established distro, one I consider my backup for Garuda or Arch as a whole and on paper more to my liking.
Contrary to what me daily-ing Garuda would suggest, this is not an attempt to advertise the distro, it's an expression of surprise to see it appear.
There is some relevancy in this off-topic ramble, as I tried out Garuda as an experiment between switching from working Manjaro installs I did not trust in tbe long term to EndeavourOS as a pre-installed Arch Linux, sticking as I like most of the (deeper) pre-done tweaks.
Continuing this distro-ramble, my recommendation for newcomers and personal choice for a versioned desktop is TuxedoOS.
This next to also recommending Mint, which I greatly aporeciate for their X apps project, having my Linux roots on Ubuntu MATE.
Which I switched to and now avoid from how snapd doubled my laptop's boot time, after which Pop!_OS gave a poor experience due to technical problems with their configurations changed from Ubuntu.
Which circles back to TuxedoOS, which makes the tweaks needed to the (KDE Neon) Ubuntu LTS base for a good experience, along with properly testing a modern Plasma 6 desktop on it.
While in the end "distro doesn't matter" in the sense of it being a different means to distribute the same software, as proven by Manjaro a few years back a surprising amount can be messed up by that.
And having a good supported base configuration which you can expect to work without tinkering is very nice to have.
This is why both of my picks have a supported Plasma 6 desktop, this being my weapon of choice in navigating Linux Land.
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I'm using Manjaro on my desktop and I'm happy with it? What's so wrong about it that it's usage stats are shrinking?
Last edited by CZiNTrPT on 7 August 2024 at 7:38 am UTC
Last edited by CZiNTrPT on 7 August 2024 at 7:38 am UTC
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Quoting: CZiNTrPTI'm using Manjaro on my desktop and I'm happy with it? What's so wrong about it that it's usage stats are shrinking?
Manjaro has had multiple issues in the past that they have handled poorly: https://manjarno.pages.dev/
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