The Manjaro Linux team have announced the first round of testing for their new Manjaro Immutable version of the popular Linux distribution.
It's built using Arkdep which is a "Toolkit for building, deploying and maintaining an immutable, atomic, btrfs-based system". Along with also using Arkane Linux a "opinionated, immutable, atomic Arch-based distibution".
The goal of this release is to gather community feedback on the technology powering Manjaro Immutable.
Note that this is only an experimental release and not representative of the final version, there is also no support guarantee, so hold off on installing it as your primary operating system, at least for now.
Manjaro Team
It's probable this is what they're using as the basis for Manjaro Gaming Edition, which is what will be shipping on their upcoming Orange Pi Neo gaming handheld. In fact, Manjaro's own Philip Müller commented to mention how it's "useful if you have devices like a gaming handheld or a business which wants to ease the maintenance efforts of their employees".
Another developer also mentioned this is not intended to replace the standard Manjaro.
Anyone brave enough to give it a spin can see more details in the announcement.
Quoting: CZiNTrPTI'm using Manjaro on my desktop and I'm happy with it? What's so wrong about it that it's usage stats are shrinking?While the above is true and while I still actively recommend against switching to Manjaro, it has been almost two years since they made such a mistake, as found on: https://manjarno.pages.dev/
There is also the whole shippong of work in progress debacle around the M1 drivers, Firefox GTK theme and possibly other ones, leading to: https://dont-ship.it/
But if you are on some standard x86_64 systems thus avoiding the former, do not use the AUR and know to blame Manjaro first if shipped software has issues or problems, you do not have to switch.
A well working system is a well working one.
Heck, I stuck with Manjaro back during the aforementioned screwups, only changing as I wanted to change things about on my desktop and after learning how good Plasma 5 had gotten with a similar layout there also wanted to jump ship from GNOME on my laptop, another project that degraded my trust in it.
Last edited by RedWyvern on 7 August 2024 at 11:20 am UTC
Quoting: CZiNTrPTI'm using Manjaro on my desktop and I'm happy with it? What's so wrong about it that it's usage stats are shrinking?
I was a user for about a year, and quit because despite being a "rolling" distro, they were quite the opposite, at least for me. This was back when KDE was releasing Plasma (I don't remember which version number) that came with a very specific feature I really wanted to use, but Manjaro delayed it by months and months and months for no apparent reason, and no comments or discussion about it. Meanwhile every single other distro already had it. I could have moved to experimental branch but after waiting for what I considered a long time with no updates or communication I had had enough. Moved to Tumbleweed and love it here.
I think the article author on boilingsteam just doesn't see a reason for its existence anymore in 2024. It's not the same insane complicated process to get regular arch up and running that it once used to be. And since regular arch has such a high share, might as well just use that and join in that community which is very large.
If I ever switch off of Tumbleweed, it'll be for Fedora. They also have a large active community that helps so much.
Last edited by Jarmer on 7 August 2024 at 4:01 pm UTC
Quoting: RedWyvernThis as it's a layer-distro on top of the base Arch repos, though the tweaks made to the standard installation are significant if still reproducable on Arch.
Same with Nobara and Fedora really.
The stability of the system after updates has improved a ton. Several years ago it was expected that from time to time (every 3 months or so) the system could break after an update and you had to spend a couple hours digging through forums on how to fix things. I never had to reinstall the system, though; so nothing too serious. These days is at most, once every couple of years, so we're talking about a massive improvement in stability after updates, which was for me the most annoying thing about a rolling-release distro.
Anyway. I hope Manjaro sticks around and regain some popularity (and make better decisions in the future to avoid too much drama/backslash). I really love it and I would only consider abandon it for Endeavour, but so far, I'm pretty happy with Manjaro.
P.S.: Old topic, but I just wanted to give my honest opinion.
Last edited by ertuqueque on 2 September 2024 at 1:58 am UTC
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