Fedora 41 is out now with plenty of enhancements like easier NVIDIA driver installs

Dsitros that "just work" and tolerate tech illiteracy and laziness also have their place of course

Laziness FTW!!!

(Otherwise known as "having better things to do")

We're talking about two completely different things.

(though to be clear my opinion is Fedora should stop blocking the auto-download of openH264 in Firefox as I believe it results in a significantly worse experience for a benefit even free software evangelists would argue is dubious at best)

You are expected to just *know* there is this thing called RPMFusion (that you have to manually enable, and from where to start with, also a mystery as not any website or link is given).

There is also an alternative to rpmfusion, https://negativo17.org/multimedia/ , if you are running NVIDIA, it is worth to explore this. I prefer their way of packaging, it works much better for me.

Edit: ah, missed the recommendation in a few posts earlier.

But I agree on the general point, Fedora is not really beginners friendly with those things.


Last edited by jens on 1 November 2024 at 7:41 am UTC

PS: Just updated to 41, it was one of the smoothest updates ever.

Dsitros that "just work" and tolerate tech illiteracy and laziness also have their place of course

Laziness FTW!!!

(Otherwise known as "having better things to do")

We're talking about two completely different things.

If we are, maybe you could explain? Because I'm seeing no indication. All I saw was a guy calling me tech illiterate and lazy. Which, true enough, but the way techies say that kind of stuff betrays a misunderstanding of what computer use is for.


Last edited by Purple Library Guy on 1 November 2024 at 2:57 pm UTC

Dsitros that "just work" and tolerate tech illiteracy and laziness also have their place of course

Laziness FTW!!!

(Otherwise known as "having better things to do")

We're talking about two completely different things.

If we are, maybe you could explain? Because I'm seeing no indication. All I saw was a guy calling me tech illiterate and lazy. Which, true enough, but the way techies say that kind of stuff betrays a misunderstanding of what computer use is for.

Where did I call *you* lazy etc? I was talking about the general prospect of using an OS on one's device while not understanding basic things like installing packages, and how a majority of people, especially my generation, are completely oblivious on how to use a computer because all they know is their touchscreen phones and tablets.

Like I said in the original comment, I appreciated Fedora's approach to these things because they allowed me to actually know the basic stuff that (I believe) anyone should know if they don't want to look clueless using their computer. I thought it was the perfect distro for that, not too difficult and complex like Arch, and not too dumbed down that it gives me the illusion of convenience and that I can pretend I'm still using Windows and don't need to learn anything new (and face trouble later down the line). I'm not talking about deep low level stuff, just the minimum basic information that you should know to be good to go.

This is different than what you brought up in the sense that "having better things to do" is more akin to using one of those rolling release distros that are bound to break and waste your time fixing all those issues, and doesn't really apply (in my experience) to Fedora, which has been rock solid across the two systems I use Fedora on.

Dsitros that "just work" and tolerate tech illiteracy and laziness also have their place of course

Laziness FTW!!!

(Otherwise known as "having better things to do")

We're talking about two completely different things.

If we are, maybe you could explain? Because I'm seeing no indication. All I saw was a guy calling me tech illiterate and lazy. Which, true enough, but the way techies say that kind of stuff betrays a misunderstanding of what computer use is for.

Where did I call *you* lazy etc?

I'm now willing to believe you didn't, but when I say I don't want to deal with (something Fedora does) and am glad Mint is around for people like me, and you reply that you like Fedora but distros that "just work" and tolerate tech illiteracy and laziness have their place, the obvious implication is that people like me who use those distros that 'just work' are tech illiterate and lazy. Might want to spend a bit of time working on your communication literacy instead of your tech literacy.

Dsitros that "just work" and tolerate tech illiteracy and laziness also have their place of course

Laziness FTW!!!

(Otherwise known as "having better things to do")

We're talking about two completely different things.

If we are, maybe you could explain? Because I'm seeing no indication. All I saw was a guy calling me tech illiterate and lazy. Which, true enough, but the way techies say that kind of stuff betrays a misunderstanding of what computer use is for.

Where did I call *you* lazy etc?

I'm now willing to believe you didn't, but when I say I don't want to deal with (something Fedora does) and am glad Mint is around for people like me, and you reply that you like Fedora but distros that "just work" and tolerate tech illiteracy and laziness have their place, the obvious implication is that people like me who use those distros that 'just work' are tech illiterate and lazy. Might want to spend a bit of time working on your communication literacy instead of your tech literacy.

I don't know why you respond in such a manner still, I also don't understand why you insist on making this about yourself when I never replied to your comments or mention you at all.

Since this is the response after I went ahwad and further detailed what I originally meant in the first comment, then I'm going to ignore any further replies here, maybe even check if this website supports blocking users too.

I want to use Fedora 41 so much but I can't seem to get it to work on my AMD laptop with Mux Switch. the iGPU is AMD and the dGPU is an RADEON 7700S.