NVIDIA GeForce NOW will soon limit your hours per month but some memberships get upgraded

Quoting: BlackBloodRumHonestly if you want to stream games just do it yourself with Sunshine or Steam Remote Play.

Why pay someone else for something you can do yourself?

Because not everyone has a full desktop PC capable of it, that's part of the whole point really.

Quoting: Liam Dawe

Quoting: BlackBloodRumHonestly if you want to stream games just do it yourself with Sunshine or Steam Remote Play.

Why pay someone else for something you can do yourself?

Because not everyone has a full desktop PC capable of it, that's part of the whole point really.

And, for my part, because I have an RX6600 on my host, my Steam Streaming is pretty garbage (lots of stuttering, input lags, slow downs and resolution artifacts with all of the mentionned solutions). GeForce Now is still the best solution, in my case.

My son is doing the same, on the same network, same cpu, but with a GTX 1660 Super and it's running much smoother.

It's not always a given that you'll have a good experience with Steam Link or Moonlight.


Last edited by Mohandevir on 7 November 2024 at 10:02 pm UTC

I think Steam Deck 2 is going to upset a lot of these streaming services because it will be hopefully fast enough and good enough while also being a pretty decent price that most people can just use it, being portable solves the other reason these streaming services offer.

[quote=Liam Dawe]

Quoting: BlackBloodRumWhy pay someone else for something you can do yourself?

Because I don't have a gaming PC that can play 4k or Ultrawide.
Steam Deck got me back into PC gaming and is my main device for that.
My Xbox Series X was my main device before Deck.

I can use Nvidia app built into my 4k TV to play games on the big screen in higher quality than my Deck can manage.

to be honest after getting SteamDeck I completely lost interest in geforce now... had founders plan and decided to stop paying for it after about a year of not using it...

The biggest issue was that the experience wasn't all that streamlined in the end, there was a waiting to prepare environment and whatnot...

Quoting: BlackBloodRumWhy pay someone else for something you can do yourself?

To answer "why?", for me.
1) Doesn't require me to have a beefy GPU (hello sweet, sweet silence. Also, since this allows me to get away with NUCs I can have my computer VESA-mounted to the monitor, hello very clean desktop)

2) Works pretty great on a chromecast (gen4) (handy for a quick "grab the living rooom controller and sit in the sofa"-gaming, however, headset mics do not work on the chromecast, or at least didn't six months ago)

3) Works on pretty much any device with a browser (great when visiting friend)

4) DRM is now located on someone else's machines (drastically lowers security concerns)
4b) Some companies are willing to work with cloud providers but not with Linux (Fortnite being an example here).

5) Installs/Game sizes. There is something to be said for having a fresh game up and running in the time it takes you to grab snacks, not to mention not having to care about free space on disk.

6) Cost. Cloud Gaming costs about 120-150$ / year, an RTX 30703060* about 550-700$350-450$* (mid-tiers, both, pulled my local prices (incl tax)). But this really comes down to your upgrade cycle and if you have non-gaming needs for your dGPU.
And yes, it works perfectly fine on a ca 2017 iGPU (NUC7i5), or at least did as of last night.

Same also holds true for boosteroid (I've used both quite a bit, I mainly prefer GeForce NOW, but boosteroid is my fallback when GeForce NOW isn't viable (RDR2 for example, or I guess post-Jan-2026 gaming))

* = Edits: seems "friendly" search swapped it for a 4070, *sighs*


Last edited by aluminumgriffin on 8 November 2024 at 9:31 am UTC

Quoting: TheRiddickI think Steam Deck 2 is going to upset a lot of these streaming services because it will be hopefully fast enough and good enough while also being a pretty decent price that most people can just use it, being portable solves the other reason these streaming services offer.

For my part, just a docking station where I can slap my own gpu on it and connect it to a Steam Deck 2 would end the debate.


Last edited by Mohandevir on 8 November 2024 at 12:44 pm UTC

Quoting: MohandevirI'm still on my founders subscription (30$CAN/6months) and not planning to move from that. Let's see what's in it for me, but 100 hours per month is more than enough, considering it's only a backup plan for my Steam Deck.

Edit: It seems I get the performance plan for the price of my founders sub... So, for a little less than half the yearly bill of a regular sub. Nice!

I missed out on the Founders subscription back when it first started because I didn't play PC games that much at the time but I do have a subscription for Performance (fka Priority) now. I think the new changes makes sense because not everyone uses up the 6 hours provided by the Performance subscription and you can jump in and out for a couple of hours of game without going over 100 hours total for the month. What would disappoint me is if they ever cut the number of hours on your subscription like going from 6 (8 on Ultimate) to 3 (4 for Ultimate) hours.

Quoting: BlackBloodRumHonestly if you want to stream games just do it yourself with Sunshine or Steam Remote Play.

Why pay someone else for something you can do yourself?

For someone like myself that doesn't own a very powerful PC or want to build one from scratch, this is a convenient way for me to play some of my Steam games on a bunch of devices without doing the setup myself. I use it on my Steam Deck and Mac with great results.

Quoting: Mohandevir

Quoting: TheRiddickI think Steam Deck 2 is going to upset a lot of these streaming services because it will be hopefully fast enough and good enough while also being a pretty decent price that most people can just use it, being portable solves the other reason these streaming services offer.

For my part, just a docking station where I can slap my own gpu on it and connect it to a Steam Deck 2 would end the debate.

This would be awesome if Steam Deck 2 provided a way to use eGPUs because that would give those AAA games some more juice to play at great framerates and graphics.


Last edited by ToddL on 8 November 2024 at 2:11 pm UTC

I remember back in the day, I was paying for a low-cost 56K dial-up service to get "unlimited" access. Welp, one day, they emailed me and said I was in their top 1% of users, so they were going to limit my daily hours. That's when I became a hacker I guess. Too bad for them, because I was paying for the product they advertised. I found a way to connect to their services and bypass all their controls, so I could get those big game demos downloaded!

Quoting: ElectricPrism@Mohandevir -- Correct, No Smart TVs, thanks for being my sounding board to bounce ideas off of -- in hindsight it seems so obvious that a TV Set Box or TV stick or something like that might do the trick, thanks :)

@MayeulC -- I think Moonlight & Sunshine are great ideas -- (I also recall reading somewhere recently that you can create Headless Sway Outputs for streaming) -- I guess I could make a really basic Sway-Steam config too.

I didn't realize that SteamLink had a FlatHub ( https://flathub.org/apps/com.valvesoftware.SteamLink ) or even Steam ( https://flathub.org/apps/com.valvesoftware.Steam )

I wonder what the best compact cheapest Linux mini would be (I really do like coreboot and libreboot) ( I see https://system76.com/desktops/meerkat/ and https://puri.sm/products/librem-mini/ )

I dunno if there are any good 3rd or 4th options

Definitely, Moonlight is the better solution. Gave it a try for the last two weeks. It got a lot better with my setup.
This said, If I had to try another solution to my Android boxes and just for the challenge, I'd probably try this:

https://pimylifeup.com/raspberry-pi-moonlight/

But... the new Google TV Chromecast is around the same price of an RPI and since I need Netflix and/or Disney and/or Prime Video...

Note: If you have stuttering issues like I did, try syncing your host and client screens at exactly the same refresh rates (ex: 60hz to 60hz, not 60hz to 59.75hz) and enable in-game Vsync. It seems to smoothen things a lot.

Edit: For the price of a Meerkat, I would consider buying the 256gb Steam Deck or the 512gb Oled version and install Moonlight on it... Once Docked, it's going to be the same and you will gain the comodity of a handheld, if ever you need it. This said, the Meerkat is a good solution which has it's own advantages. It's just my reasoning.


Last edited by Mohandevir on 19 November 2024 at 4:41 pm UTC