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Sony forcing you to have a PlayStation Network account for all their recent PC releases hasn't been well liked, and they of course have no plans to back down on it.

During the latest Sony Group Corporation investors call in their Q&A session at about 45:40, a question came up about what lessons they will take away from Concord (which Sony shut down and then closed the game studio).

Hiroki Totoki (President, COO and CFO) replied with an English translation from a live interpreter, so the translation is a bit loose and rough, but this is what was said:

Regarding that matter we have learned a lot. The way to face the issues regarding PC for instance, the PlayStation accounts that we have offered, by offering them for instance, sometimes that tends to invite push-back. But for the live service games, so in order to maintain order of the gaming, so that anybody can enjoy the game safely, we need to create environment conducive to that, of course enjoying the game freely.

Having some restrictions, may not call it rule, but to ask the users and gamers to follow the manner, and those balances are very important and we have to continue to seek the best way to achieve this.

Clearly the PSN requirement isn't going anywhere, and will be in all their future games, even though it's unpopular and locks out a whole lot of regions from buying their games. Sony want that extra control over their games, especially when they're now releasing outside of their own PlayStation console.

In some ways, it makes sense for their online live-service games, and you do have to remember the context of the question was for Concord that was supposed to be live-service.

However, it really makes very little sense for their single-player games where it's also now forced like Horizon Zero Dawn Remastered, Until Dawn, God of War Ragnarök and more to come. Forcing online accounts for single-player games is never going to go down well but it's here to stay for Sony's PC releases.

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I can safely rest assured that my data is being harvested and fed into a some kind of Learning Model for Ai marketing purposes and monetization.
WYW Nov 9
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tarmo888 Nov 9
They keep requiring the PSN account, I keep NOT buying their games, because I can't (EU country not on their list).

Eventually it's their loss because more and more people will not have any emotional connection (or only negative emotions) with their IPs.
I guess a lot has been lost in translation...

What Sony usually means when they talk about "safe" in a PSN context, is the option to blocklist or report people, to always know whom you are playing with, to make sure that kids can't access content they shouldn't, and a lot of other player-friendly features.

Sony have all that stuff set up for their consoles, so I'm not surprised that they are going the path of least resistance and try to use the same systems on PC too. Especially for games that already support all that via the PSN APIs on consoles it makes sense to use the same APIs on PC - but their online-features all assume that the player has a PSN account...

So, while I am not happy about it, I can see where they are coming from.

(For offline games it really doesn't make much sense though... As long as the games don't access any PSN APIs it doesn't make a difference...)
Boo!
eldaking Nov 9
This cell and these restraints are both entirely for your protection. We can't guarantee your safety if you are free to leave.
I knew it must have something to do with our safety! THINK ABOUT THE KIDS!!!
I've never been of the crowd that get annoyed with registering more accounts (though no shade thrown to those who do), but what honestly bugs me the most about this whole ordeal is that it's caused folks in a lot of places to be completely denied access to these games on PC. Like, it made some sense when the explanation was something to the effect of "you need to be able to buy a Playstation" or whatever it was, but really even when that was the case it still didn't make much sense. If you can build a PC and run Steam on it, there should be no reason why you can't buy a Sony game and register a Playstation account, it's baffling.
Even as someone who doesn't care about the requirement and thought the outrage was and is stupid. (They're PlayStation games, needing a PSN account is not shocking.) I find this excuse about safety laughable and it just makes it all look worse. lol
Okona Nov 9
I call shenanigans!
Nope. ANY game that requires me to make an account with them does not get purchased.

Except for MMO type, where duh, you do NEED one.

Single player? Frack no.

Of course, I could make another new gmail acct just for them, but honestly,
none of their games are appealing to me anyway.
Okona Nov 9
Oh, and really great for game preservation.

Also when was the latest data breach in the PSN?
Stella Nov 9
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I mean… I guess it would make sense for me to have the PSN requirement if it offered any benefit whatsoever. I don't own many games with 3rd party logins but where I do, it does offer something to the consumer. Rockstar's DRM/Launcher for Red Dead 1/2 at least offers something in the form of cloud saves. Although that arguably could be integrated into Steam itself. For the first-party XBOX games, you have some benefits in the form of compatibility between PC and console (which is cool I guess, but I don't own any console so not really relevant for me).

However, there is nothing that justifies this account requirement for Zero Dawn Remastered. It offers no cloud saves and no compatibility of any kind with playstation, I would at least expect at least that it recognized my old saves if I had previously played Zero Dawn on a PS4 console, and import them. But no such functionality exists. The PSN overlay offers the trophies but Steam has its own built-in achievements so tropies are utterly pointless. And it's a singleplayer game so no multiplayer that would need to be managed from outside Steam for cross-play or something.
Pyrate Nov 9
Still can't buy their new games on Steam... so I won't! Their loss that I'll look elsewhere when I feel like playing the new GoW etc.
finaldest Nov 9
If Sony wont back down then I wont back down either.


NO Money for Sony.

Boycott to continue. They have lost around £250 from me so far. Ohh well, more money for other games.


Last edited by finaldest on 9 November 2024 at 6:23 pm UTC
Tevur Nov 9
Do you remember the time when digital distribution with its more or less hassle-free accessability essentially killed video game piracy?


Last edited by Tevur on 9 November 2024 at 7:19 pm UTC
devland Nov 9
PSN account required to "securely" play single player games?

The best security you can hope for here is that which comes with an eye patch, hook and wooden leg.
Lachu Nov 9
Does anyone find that producer of League Legends also told it force new Anti-Cheat to made people live more secured? In both cases it harm Linux users. Maybe it is new trend to explain oneself by security problems. People always told: if politics will try to harm freedom, he/she always will told it is because of security.
AsciiWolf Nov 9
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Mal Nov 9
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I mean... what would they expect him to say? The truth?
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