Unfortunately, from what I figured out, a lot of plugins to Evolution and Thunderbird are not working because MS has tendency to unexpectedly change his protocol.

I have Exquilla and Exchange EWS Provider working right now. Not sure what version the Exchange server is. I had a couple of breaks over the couple of years I've been using them, both resolved with plugin updates pretty quickly. The update distribution method leaves something to be desired. I think both breaks I had to dig around to find the most current development/beta version of the plugin.

Microsoft does love to break cross platform compatibility though.

Quoting: GuestExquilla is subscription based and unacceptable.

QuoteYou got your both feet caught in a concrete block and you ask to people the best way to jump higher. The best way is to get rid of concrete block. So get rid of Windows Server and Exchange.

Not worth the expense. All of our computers run windows 7 (good until 2020), except for two Linux Laptops and backup desktop. The way to integrate Linux would be to add more Linux machines over time, but that won't happen until they they can satisfy all use case scenarios with reasonable effort and expense.

They cannot know how awesome Linux really is :D if you gave them a chance to try for themselves like for example say we don't want to use win10 in our companies so people would be a bit forced to start considering linux as an alternative to Win7 after the support runs out. I don't think it would take them drastically a lot of effort to find everything they need on Linux these days :)

Quoting: GuestExquilla is subscription based and unacceptable.

QuoteYou got your both feet caught in a concrete block and you ask to people the best way to jump higher. The best way is to get rid of concrete block. So get rid of Windows Server and Exchange.

Not worth the expense. All of our computers run windows 7 (good until 2020), except for two Linux Laptops and backup desktop. The way to integrate Linux would be to add more Linux machines over time, but that won't happen until they they can satisfy all use case scenarios with reasonable effort and expense.

Microsoft Office is also subscription based (at some point they stop supporting and you have to buy the new version) and in most cases (especially Office 365) more expensive. I understand the perspective though.

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Quoting: m2mg2Microsoft Office is also subscription based (at some point they stop supporting and you have to buy the new version) and in most cases (especially Office 365) more expensive. I understand the perspective though.

Desktop version of Microsoft office is not subscription based. Upgrading to new version is optional. We are still using Office 2007 on some computers, 2010 on others and so on, depending on what the current version was at the time we purchased the computer and its software. You don't have to buy a new version if it doesn't bring features that are worth the upgrade cost.
ExQuilla is subscription based and I fail to see a value in paying endlessly for software that serves a relatively simple task and should work at the time of purchase. Software is not a service, it is a product that can be copied an infinite amount of time at no cost, once it was developed. Bug fix updates are nothing but convenient product recalls to fix a defective product.

They will stop updating so unless you are OK using the product unsupported/outdated it is a subscription. If you've noticed where Microsoft has been going I wouldn't be at all surprised if they stopped offering anything other than Office 365, you'll get the full apps but only with the subscription. Outlook 2016 non 365 is $110. That price would cover 11 years at $10 per year. Which is probably longer that Microsoft will support Outlook 2016. The subscription is based on email address. So with Outlook you could only use the software on one machine but with ExQuila you can use it on five (or more but only for the registered email address). I have Exquilla set up on at least three workstations with one subscription. I don't like the subscription model either, I had an internal struggle about continuing to use the more limited function of evolution-ews or paying the subscription.

I'm not trying to change your mind, just highlighting some of the pros and cons. I hate software as a service also, but pretty much everything non open source looks to be going that route.

I haven't used it succesfully, but there is also davmail.

http://davmail.sourceforge.net/
http://davmail.sourceforge.net/gettingstarted.html

I may try this on a test machine and see how the functionality compares to my current set up.

I agree with @m2mg2, Windows 7 is barely kept alive (proof: dx12 exclusion) and I think that MS will do everything to try and force people to upgrade to Windows 10. And once they get used to Win10 they automatically become their followers and they let Microsoft control their computing and digital world. I think that now is the right chance to migrate from Windows once and for all because if this monopoly keeps going on, Linux will not be a viable Windows replacement by the time Win7 support officially ends... Now is the time when Linux is advanced enough to provide majority of users a nice and stable OS with open-source alternatives that are not always as great but probably get the job done. But of course these are our opinions :) @Feda knows his possibilities way more than we do probably.

Quoting: MaCroX95I agree with @m2mg2, Windows 7 is barely kept alive (proof: dx12 exclusion) and I think that MS will do everything to try and force people to upgrade to Windows 10. And once they get used to Win10 they automatically become their followers and they let Microsoft control their computing and digital world. I think that now is the right chance to migrate from Windows once and for all because if this monopoly keeps going on, Linux will not be a viable Windows replacement by the time Win7 support officially ends... Now is the time when Linux is advanced enough to provide majority of users a nice and stable OS with open-source alternatives that are not always as great but probably get the job done. But of course these are our opinions :) @Feda knows his possibilities way more than we do probably.

As much as I hate Windows my company won't be switching over anytime soon. We have lock in issues way..... way beyond Outlook.

Quoting: m2mg2

Quoting: MaCroX95I agree with @m2mg2, Windows 7 is barely kept alive (proof: dx12 exclusion) and I think that MS will do everything to try and force people to upgrade to Windows 10. And once they get used to Win10 they automatically become their followers and they let Microsoft control their computing and digital world. I think that now is the right chance to migrate from Windows once and for all because if this monopoly keeps going on, Linux will not be a viable Windows replacement by the time Win7 support officially ends... Now is the time when Linux is advanced enough to provide majority of users a nice and stable OS with open-source alternatives that are not always as great but probably get the job done. But of course these are our opinions :) @Feda knows his possibilities way more than we do probably.

As much as I hate Windows my company won't be switching over anytime soon. We have lock in issues way..... way beyond Outlook.

Yeah, unfortunately only huge companies like Google, Disney, NASA can afford to have their own software written exclusively for them and running Linux. They all know that it's such a powerful OS but smaller businesses rely on commercial products which are probably mostly contracted to run only on Windows and Mac and this is the main reason why MS doesn't want Linux to go mainstream on the desktop... because if all software developers would produce their software for all 3 OSes then one would have no reason to use shitty and crappy Windows compared to fast and stable linux with same software sitting on top... Unfortunately this is the world we live in, I backed away from Microsoft at least in my personal life and am not going back on my PCs :)