I think illegal games are against the culture of most of the Linux users...
Otherwise, in Windows users, the illegal is the rule and the legal is the exception...

I bet 80% of Steam 4 Windows users run their games on an illegal/ cracked version, just because the games need windows, and not because they like Windows.....

I believe that if gonna use Windows because you love videogames, You have to buy it...
Im about to install a legal Windows 7 SP1 OEM on a machine.. It cost me about 200 U$D (that is the price in Argentina)



Plus, how many no-steam cracks for Linux are available out there?

Personally I think $200 for a copy of Windows is a bit high and that is good reason by itself to install Linux. But that is a subject for another thread.

And I hope you right about pirating games is against the culture of most Linux users.

Pirating is likely just as bad on Linux as it is on Windows.

I've repeatedly seen a few people in our comments claim piracy is okay for *reasons*

The best way is to call these people out on their idiocy. Make sure they know not many share their opinion and so on.

Since our platform is much smaller then Windows, piracy will have a very large effect of discouraging developers on porting game over to Linux. I really don't want to have to be using Windows again to play games.

Pirating is likely just as bad on Linux as it is on Windows.

I've repeatedly seen a few people in our comments claim piracy is okay for *reasons*

The best way is to call these people out on their idiocy. Make sure they know not many share their opinion and so on.

I don't do it and I'm sure most of the people who do are mostly driven by not having to pay. I see just buying as much more convenient for the relatively small price you have to pay anyway and I'd like to see more releases of games on Linux so it makes sense to pay for them. That said, making the issue that simple is what I'd rather describe with that word.

It's an operating system that was strongly influenced by a movement that has the philosophy that not sharing software is unethical. It's not at all suprising if there are people that see piracy not just as ok but as the right thing to do.

Pirating is likely just as bad on Linux as it is on Windows.

I've repeatedly seen a few people in our comments claim piracy is okay for *reasons*

The best way is to call these people out on their idiocy. Make sure they know not many share their opinion and so on.

Have you seen evidence of software piracy on Linux?

I've never seen pirated software for Linux (hack tools are a different issue and aren't related to piracy). Except for Windows cracks that people use on Windows versions of games/software through Wine. Because Linux itself and most of the software on it being free, from what I've seen if a company releases a good product people want that can't be replaced with a equally capable free version they buy it. Since moving to Linux I even bought office 365, so I can make docs in Linux people using Microsoft Office can view properly (I may abandon it if they start advertising through it, which I have a feeling is coming. I also don't trust it for sensitive docs since Microsoft probably logs every word you type and their EULA allows them to do what they want with it). I'd like them to make standard office for Linux as I really don't like the concept of 365.

I have no respect for Microsoft since they have no respect for me as a customer. Same goes for DRM schemes, I don't respect developers that expect you to let them install what basically amounts to rootkits to install their games. For Linux if a game wants root privilege to install a rootkit so I can play the game, I will be requesting a refund. Linux respects me as a user and I would never pirate anything that runs on Linux.

I slowly stopped pirating software ever since I started using FOSS.

Yeah. It is kind of annoying, I do everything for myself in LibreOffice which is most of my work and don't pay for the software. Then I have pay this stupid yearly fee to edit a few documents here and there for other people. That's what happens when consumers and big companies are complicit with vendor lock in. I just exported to pdf when I was in school and made the professors accept, it isn't like they were paying me to write their reports and it wasn't like they were buying the software. Now I'm getting paid and they want docs, docs they can read and edit properly formatted.

Piracy is an interesting phenomenon. It starts when you are young and don't have any money, but still want games/software. Add in availability and off you go. After that it often turns into more of an addiction where you're ultimately working on completing your "collection" of software, but never really use it.

By then it's second nature. It doesn't stop until you change your attitude towards it and have some disposable income. I've been completely free of pirated software (well, almost, one exception) for a while and even bought a whole bunch of games on Steam to settle a 'debt'.

I did have a serious question though. Who has actually seen pirated Linux software, not Windows software people pirated through Wine? If you have how much of it?

I don't want to know where it is as I have no interest in it, I'm just curious if it actually exists in any substantial amount.

I haven't seen any, but I haven't looked for it either. Almost everything I use is free except for games so it wouldn't even make sense to pirate it. On the contrary, I make donations to certain projects occasionally and to one in particular every month. Being poor was one good reason to start using Linux, but I was never in it to get freebies. I do value the community's work and also contribute to projects from time to time.

It doesn't stop until you change your attitude towards it and have some disposable income. I've been completely free of pirated software (well, almost, one exception) for a while and even bought a whole bunch of games on Steam to settle a 'debt'.

I have a couple Steam games as well that would qualify for that category. Things I played as a teenager that were usually borrowed from friends and shared by too many people. To be honest there's a lot more I would still need to buy to settle the score.

While there may be piracy on Linux, I've also viewed as "If someone pirates' a game, then most likely he's using Windows (which in many cases has also been pirated)".

I'm no saint, have pirated a few games myself when I was a teen (which is almost 17 years ago) but then I realized how they held no value and have since replaced them with their original retail/digital counterparts - 200+ boxed games and over 250 more on GOG.

For the record I also buy my music in album CD, it's become a hobby to collect all albums by a particular band.

I did have a serious question though. Who has actually seen pirated Linux software, not Windows software people pirated through Wine? If you have how much of it?

I don't want to know where it is as I have no interest in it, I'm just curious if it actually exists in any substantial amount.

It does exist but not in the same volume compared to Wintendo. The usual torrent sources carry the software but most of it is simply copies of GOG packages. There are very few Linux 'cracks'.

In my younger days my college buddies and I pirated DOS and Win software but since my move to Linux my attitudes have changed and I genuinely feel guilty if I do not contribute properly!

What you can find is mostly the better known professional software. I've never seen game though. Then again, I'm not really looking, so why would I.

I think Liam's assertion that it is as much a problem as Windows is not accurate. I think a lot of Linux users pirate Windows software, I don't think there is actually a lot Linux software piracy. We'll see if SteamOS becomes big, will we see pirated games for SteamOS pop up all over? Maybe so.

I think Liam's assertion that it is as much a problem as Windows is not accurate. I think a lot of Linux users pirate Windows software, I don't think there is actually a lot Linux software piracy. We'll see if SteamOS becomes big, will we see pirated games for SteamOS pop up all over? Maybe so.

Old habits die hard for many people. LGP suffered from enough piracy that they started putting keys in their games.

I think Liam's assertion that it is as much a problem as Windows is not accurate. I think a lot of Linux users pirate Windows software, I don't think there is actually a lot Linux software piracy. We'll see if SteamOS becomes big, will we see pirated games for SteamOS pop up all over? Maybe so.

Old habits die hard for many people. LGP suffered from enough piracy that they started putting keys in their games.

Maybe I am wrong. You have information that it was due to piracy and not just something content owners insisted on for protection?

I think Liam's assertion that it is as much a problem as Windows is not accurate. I think a lot of Linux users pirate Windows software, I don't think there is actually a lot Linux software piracy. We'll see if SteamOS becomes big, will we see pirated games for SteamOS pop up all over? Maybe so.

Old habits die hard for many people. LGP suffered from enough piracy that they started putting keys in their games.

Maybe I am wrong. You have information that it was due to piracy and not just something content owners insisted on for protection?

Well the last time I was able to access their site, They had a statement about users pirating their games and who even had the gall to ask them for help. Of course there could more to the story.

Put it this way, a very quick search enabled me to find Linux pirated games on a website. It does happen, I've seen it happen and I've had to deleted comments on an article before from a certain user who repeatedly talked pro-piracy without giving a shit.

It happens on all platforms where it's possible to do so.

Fact: To buy illegal copies or to download Linux games illegaly is against the business of game development...

Fact: Steam is not only and store, is a DRM too...

Fact: DRM is against Linux philosophy....

so... I don't support to buy/download illegal copies and I also don't support Devs that loves DRM.

So.... No-steam cracks for Linux games I have legally on my steam library? Interesting...
I would like to play MY legally acquired games without having to install that spyware on every computer I have..
That's why I Love GOG and Humble...