Although Wes on humble support is now stating they won't give out any info on future bundles...

Doubtful since Humble are apparently dropping their cross platform only stuff...

Says who? Seriously, I want to know.

This all seems like a lot of people talking out of their hat to me. Until we get something more concrete I say calm down.

Well they are already running that double fine thing which is Windows only, the THQ bundle will be Windows only - their cross platform only has already been flattened by them.

Frankly I find this assumption about a THQ Bundle actually coming about to be a little bit pre-mature anyway since all we have are vague comments from support staff. And even if they do host some ones on their infrastructure that are not cross-platform (still a huge mistake, and one that they would need to be rightly scolded over) that does not equate to completly dropping the cross-platform requirment from actual Humble Bundles, which is what seems to be implied here.

We really need word from someone like Jeffery Rosen on this - although I have personally always found bundles like that Double Fine one to be a bit of a balmy idea and in many ways an abuse of the infrastrucute myself. They also did just hire Edward Rudd on full time, so I find this notion to a bit at odds with what we already knew before.

Also, a bit surprised that Cheeseness has not chimed in yet, being the biggest Humble Bundle fan on the forum. ;)

Okay but if they do the THQ Humble Bundle then by all measure of it they have dropped their requirements for cross platform.

I'm not bothered about the Double Fine one since they will be small prototypes and not actual games.

I think Cheese is in bed, i'm sure he will scald me soon enough for my views :P

Hamish, I agree, so much talking... It's the Humble Bundle who I want to hear. Let's wait.

Damn, if this isn't cross-platform, then I'm ending the streak of buying every bundle at 19. If that's actually what happens, I don't think I'd see Humble as anything special compared to the others...

Same for me. If they do a "Windows-only bundle" I'll consider they have sold they soul and I'll stop encouraging them for games I don't even play.

Well anything anyone really says yes is speculation, the current ones not even over, let's hope they don't disappoint us.

I take back my comments - may they all burn... :mad:

http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?75547-Humble-Indie-Bundle-Finally-Sells-Out&p=299307#post299307

Yeah i'm not exactly happy with it either but they already sold out by doing Windows only Double Fine stuff.

Speculative Bundles were always in a class of their own. This is different, not only for the lack of cross-platform support, but for the fact that Steam is still required to play the games. You like Steam I know Liam, but you have to agree forcing it onto HIB purchases is not acceptable for a service that always prided itself on being DRM free. Essentially THQ came up to them, told them to assume the position, and they did so willingly. It is disgusting.

Except double fine was some sort of "side" bundle. There was HBA4 going on parallel to it. This, OTOH, is their "core" offer this time.
Not indie. Not cross-platform. Not DRM-free. This cake IS a lie.

Buying the Humble THQ Bundle gets you the games for Windows through Steam. For your listening delight, you also get a collection of DRM-free soundtracks!

Oh, now this is f@cking rich...

Now if this was a Humble Indie Bundle, I would be spitting lead. And for about two seconds I was excited about another raft of games coming to Linux and then I was disappointed. However ...

...breathe...

The folks at Humble Bundle just employed a full time Linux porter. That's not something that a company which is abandoning Linux does. I'm hoping that these platform specific bundles are a sporadic event and not a regular feature, and I'm hoping that we'll see a ton more games coming to Linux because Humble Bundle continues to be a go-to porting house.

It is not about abandoning Linux, it is about abandoning their principles. Linux is not really the point here. Yes, there are going to be more cross-platform Bundles. But that is not the point. Since day one the bundles have been about cross-platform DRM free indie games. They have now cast that all away. They have betrayed their fans, and they may even have lied to them. That is what I am upset about it. They have shown their true colours, and it will never be the same again.

Well they are a business, just goes to show some business will drop their original values for cash.

Then again it could be the owner of Humble doesn't want THQ to dissapear (they are having financial trouble).

This is deceptive because they've used the HB name to sell something contrary to its principles. The name became associated to DRM-free and cross-platform, they sold that idea. It's the business side of things. I'll just skip this bundle, and don't think they owns us anything, they've offered us already a lot.

Well, if the defence is that the HIB is just operating as a business, then we need to apply the same lens to THQ. If they really hope that the Humble Bundle is going to save them they should have put the effort in to make themselves work with the Bundle. As it stands, they did nothing to make it compatible, not even detaching their product from Steam. Their money troubles is not really a reasonable excuse. They are using them and they are using us.

I am not speaking as one entitled. They have the right to do what they are doing. But just because they have the right to do it does not make it right.

I wrote this email to the Humble Bundle guys, I am seriously considering boycotting all future bundles:

Hi I am writing this to let you know that I am very very disappointed that the Humble Bundle brand is no longer any kind of guarantee that games will be DRM free and multiplatform and that by agreeing to THQ's terms you have lost all the leverage in your negotiations with development studios with regard to getting them release their games in a DRM free, cross-platform state.

They will just tell you that since THQ was allowed to release their games in a Windows only, Steam only fashion they too should be allowed to do that. I am seriously worried that this means the Humble Bundle will have produced its last DRM free debut and its last Linux/cross-platform debut.

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This will seriously hurt GOG as well since developers and publishers will just say: "[COLOR=#dbdbdb]"If even the Humble Bundle guys are willing to accept DRM, then why not you also? Stop being so fanatic""

Making it harder, much harder for them to get them to agree to their DRM free terms. In the end that will mean that they will either have to give up on their DRM free principles just like the Humble Bundle guys did or they will have to live with a much smaller catalog. Either way DRM free gaming loses out. You would almost think this was deliberately designed to kill DRM free and cross-platform gaming.

I sent them an email too. People like me used to use them as an example of how things are done.

They have been getting worse with missing games, re-hashing games multiple times, Windows only bundles...what's next