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WD Green drives aren't so bad!
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woox2k Jan 3, 2021
WD Greens never were physically worse than any other drive brand. Only issue they had was that head parking interval someone decided to lower to ridiculous levels what wore out head assembly too fast.

I have had number of Greens on my machine over the years and only one of them failed. It was first model with that head parking issue and back then i had no idea it should be changed to keep drive alive for longer. It died with 300k head load/unload cycle count with only about 4-5k working hours. After that i have always changed the parking interval and the drives seem to hold up just fine. Right now i have 3 2TB Green drives in my machine with 37-40k working hours and they are still going strong.

One of those 3 drives has 250k load/unload cycles while others have about 50k. That first one was bought exactly the same time as the failed one and i changed the parking interval right after the first one died. Needless to say it seems to have worked to keep drive alive but that cycle count is starting to creep to dangerous levels now.

Last edited by woox2k on 3 January 2021 at 10:36 am UTC
Xpander Jan 3, 2021
yeah exactly the head parking interval thing..
one of my WD greens died because of that also. I didn't know about that thing at the time.
it failed at 290K load/unload cycles
BlackBloodRum Sep 17, 2021
Soo.. I replaced those drives with a couple of 8TB Seagate Ironwolfs.. figured since they're powered on 24/7 the Ironwolf (and drives of that class) are the best bet for being powered on 24/7 right?

Wrong.





Now having fun discussing the drive with Seagate whom insist I put it in a windows computer to see if it "really has problems" since they "don't support linux" - I don't even have a windows computer..

So this warranty service is fun.... looks like I will have to find some way of obtaining a windows license key for free or some kind of trial or something on a test computer. I'm not paying for windows just to test a drive.. I haven't used windows in many years (I explained this to them).. so it's baby steps for me with it.

Although they did kindly ask if I had a backup (I do, on a seperate drive, which I've since also already restored to a replacement WD Red Pro I purchased the day that drive started throwing errors...)

/end rant

Sorry!

Last edited by BlackBloodRum on 17 September 2021 at 6:47 am UTC
omicron-b Sep 17, 2021
Quoting: BlackBloodRumobtaining a windows license key
You don't need a license to install Windows 10 and make some screenshots.
That said, it's ridiculous they need a screenshot to prove a drive is bad. People can just download and edit those.
BlackBloodRum Sep 17, 2021
Quoting: omicron-b
Quoting: BlackBloodRumobtaining a windows license key
You don't need a license to install Windows 10 and make some screenshots.
That said, it's ridiculous they need a screenshot to prove a drive is bad. People can just download and edit those.

Oh? I thought Microsoft always requires windows to be licensed? Isn't that part of their whole ToS and such?

All my systems are custom build, so I don't have a working key sitting in the BIOS unfortunately.
omicron-b Sep 17, 2021
Quoting: BlackBloodRum
Quoting: omicron-b
Quoting: BlackBloodRumobtaining a windows license key
You don't need a license to install Windows 10 and make some screenshots.
That said, it's ridiculous they need a screenshot to prove a drive is bad. People can just download and edit those.

Oh? I thought Microsoft always requires windows to be licensed? Isn't that part of their whole ToS and such?

All my systems are custom build, so I don't have a working key sitting in the BIOS unfortunately.

Maybe they do, the system would just work though, and remind you to activate it from time to time. Also, you won't be able to customize any looks.
This just confirms that they're after your data now, not just your money.
BlackBloodRum Sep 17, 2021
Quoting: omicron-bMaybe they do, the system would just work though, and remind you to activate it from time to time. Also, you won't be able to customize any looks.
This just confirms that they're after your data now, not just your money.
Oh I see. I'll have to go see how to download windows without a key, I can predict it being a confusing experience due to my lack of windows skills .

Btw: Never trust Microsoft.. just saying. They've been after your data since Win8, even back porting some stuff to Win7. That's why I'm glad I left back before Vista came out, never looked back.

Quoting: The_AquabatMy WD green didn't die but I decided to retire it, now I bought another one exactly the same just newer model. Guess what? it's was supposed to be brand new, but it had already like 10k power on hours, the seller scammed me (it was a hardware shop) and he insisted that the hdd was brand new. SCAMMER
Wow.. that really sucks. Some countries (such as UK) will allow you to return the drive under a consumer rights act (Online or offline purchase) due to mis-sold products.

Check your local laws, you may be able to force a refund from them due to false advertising and mis-selling.
wvstolzing Sep 17, 2021
Quoting: BlackBloodRumNow having fun discussing the drive with Seagate whom insist I put it in a windows computer to see if it "really has problems" since they "don't support linux" - I don't even have a windows computer..

All the more absurd, considering that they sell the IronWolf as the 'NAS Drive'.

The # of NASs that run on windoze isn't *that* big.
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