Ugh, bit the bullet and bought a pre-built system. Not sure how I feel about the AIOs, and the RGB garbage, but it has a 3080 and 5900x in it...

Quoting: The_Aquabatcongrats Csokis!!!


I'm planning maybe in a few months to buy a new mobo just to be ready when silicon shortage is over, and prices go down to buy a Ryzen 5600, is there any specific reason to choose a B550 over a B450? I mean this is the endline for Ryzen on AM4, is there other advantage other than better VRMs? the top of the line of the B450 have very decent VRMs, quite frankly I don't see any advantage.
yeah ok, sure, the price difference is just a dozen of dollars maybe, but I see no point.

All I have heard so far indicates the situation is not improving this year except if the crypto bullshit would crash. So if this is the only reason to wait, I would strongly recommend to just wait until you can buy all parts at once. DDR5 and new sockets is about to come next year.

If you cannot wait I would suggest to try to get an APU. I guess you do not have a powerfull spare PCIE gfx card. The Ryzen 5700G would be the thing you wanna have here. And just buy the gfx card later. I would take the B550 because of more recent BIOS and therefore probably better Ryzen 5xxx compatibility. Also it has PCIE gen4.

I finally broke down and bought a 3080 with accessories (accessories being a Ryzen 9 5800x, 32gb of ddr4 ram, an annoying RGB case, and keyboard / mouse, and mitherboard, etc...)
Still only a slight markup from buying just the video card...

Quoting: The_Aquabatmonitor shortage as well, at least it's very noticeable here, not sure how it looks in other countries.

I know there is a general "chip" shortage here, affecting some non tech things (like car factories in my area). I imagine that doesn't help us either. I fear the universe is against us mortals upgrading our PCs.

Congrats slaapliedje! Sounds like nice accessories!

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Quoting: denyasis

Quoting: The_Aquabatmonitor shortage as well, at least it's very noticeable here, not sure how it looks in other countries.

I know there is a general "chip" shortage here, affecting some non tech things (like car factories in my area). I imagine that doesn't help us either. I fear the universe is against us mortals upgrading our PCs.

Congrats slaapliedje! Sounds like nice accessories!

Thanks! I still want to know some things...

1) Why do cases insist on removing 5.25" bays so we can no longer mount optical drives... yet motherboard manufacturers still include a PS/2 port...

2) RGB... why?? My computer sits under my desk on my left side... even if my case had a see through window (the one that it came with did, along with RGB fans all up the front) I couldn't say 'ooh the colors!' because it's facing away from me anyhow...

3) Let's all use AIO and water cooling, even though it's been shown that if you get a good enough cooler (like the awesome Noctua one I had in my old set up) it's both quieter (the fans barely ever even kicked on) and looks cooler (sure no colors, but nothing speaks awesome like a giant chunk of metal in your case! Also makes you not want to keep messing around inside, as the potential for cuts and scrapes is higher! It protects from tinkerers...

4) how much bigger does my RAM need to be, just so it has RGB lighting that I'll never see??

Ha, funny thing is, for the longest time I thought the only real benefit to going water cooled was the silence, but this AIO block has a wobbly fan or something, so I'm either going to replace the fans (already ordered some) or will end up buying another HSF from Noctua to replace it as it irritates me and I DGIAF about RGB.

Quoting: slaapliedjeThanks! I still want to know some things...

1) Pure hate.
2) Agreed. I hear they attract teens like crows to foil though! (Lol, sorry teens)
3) my notuca might wanna fight on that one. It gets hot....I can feel it on the outside of the case!

I think it's an airflow issue, but in an ITX case, I can only add so many fans cause that HSF is huge!!

Quoting: denyasis

Quoting: slaapliedjeThanks! I still want to know some things...

1) Pure hate.
2) Agreed. I hear they attract teens like crows to foil though! (Lol, sorry teens)
3) my notuca might wanna fight on that one. It gets hot....I can feel it on the outside of the case!

I think it's an airflow issue, but in an ITX case, I can only add so many fans cause that HSF is huge!!

Ha, ITX sure seems to be the key letters there.
I tend to have front fans, back fans and the HSF fans. Good for pulling air through your case. And hopefully you face them all the same way so you don't screw up the flow.

Quoting: slaapliedje1) Why do cases insist on removing 5.25" bays so we can no longer mount optical drives... yet motherboard manufacturers still include a PS/2 port...

When I upgraded, I wanted to change my case too, but I faced the same problem with no 5.25" bay accessible from the front... So I'm keeping my old, very heavy case for now.

However, when choosing my new motherboard, I didn't thought about the PS/2 port, thinking "well, all manufacturers will include one anyway"... Unfortunately, it didn't, so I had to bought an adapter for my full-NKRO mechanical keyboard, turning it into a 6KRO only... so yeah, there is still a point to having a PS/2 port

Quoting: furaxhornyx

Quoting: slaapliedje1) Why do cases insist on removing 5.25" bays so we can no longer mount optical drives... yet motherboard manufacturers still include a PS/2 port...

When I upgraded, I wanted to change my case too, but I faced the same problem with no 5.25" bay accessible from the front... So I'm keeping my old, very heavy case for now.

However, when choosing my new motherboard, I didn't thought about the PS/2 port, thinking "well, all manufacturers will include one anyway"... Unfortunately, it didn't, so I had to bought an adapter for my full-NKRO mechanical keyboard, turning it into a 6KRO only... so yeah, there is still a point to having a PS/2 port

I can highly recommend the Fractal Design cases. I have an R6 and love it. Have the proper bluray drive in it so it can read PS3 discs.

Huh, most of the mechanical keyboards I have seen are USB. May look into getting a PS/2 one for my old p3 or Atari PC4 to play with... (no, damnit, I already have way too many keyboards!)

Quoting: slaapliedjeI can highly recommend the Fractal Design cases. I have an R6 and love it. Have the proper bluray drive in it so it can read PS3 discs.

Thanks for the suggestion, I will have a look at these

Quoting: slaapliedjeHuh, most of the mechanical keyboards I have seen are USB. May look into getting a PS/2 one for my old p3 or Atari PC4 to play with... (no, damnit, I already have way too many keyboards!)

Mine is a QPAD MK-50 (black cherry MX), with no RGB, and full NKEY rollover (but only on PS/2 port though). I also customized the switches on some key, like clicky blue switches for F1-F12 and numbers below, and lighter red switches for modifiers, so that my fingers don't hurt when crouching / sprinting for a long time