The first build makes me absolutely hate all other computers. It is so clean inside and small! NLX should be modernised...

Quoting: ShmerlIt's possible their hacks for removing CD requests have some OS specific paths that aren't working on Windows 98 :)

My guess, including the CD as some sort of virtual drive as part of the install works fine in a modern OS, but is detectable by the DRM in the old OS.

I had the same thing when I first switched to Linux and tried to play Morrowind. Copying the CD to a directory and calling it the CD drive in Wine; worked fine. Trying that in 98 or XP; no go.

I had to do it that way b/c I didn't know how to get wine to use my real CD drive with the disk in it! Lol. Still have my Morrowind disks (all 5) packed away some where.

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Quoting: ShmerlIt's possible their hacks for removing CD requests have some OS specific paths that aren't working on Windows 98 :)

My guess, including the CD as some sort of virtual drive as part of the install works fine in a modern OS, but is detectable by the DRM in the old OS.

I had the same thing when I first switched to Linux and tried to play Morrowind. Copying the CD to a directory and calling it the CD drive in Wine; worked fine. Trying that in 98 or XP; no go.

I had to do it that way b/c I didn't know how to get wine to use my real CD drive with the disk in it! Lol. Still have my Morrowind disks (all 5) packed away some where.

Can't say back then, but these days wine properly supports CD Checks, my original copy of Pools of Radiance: Ruins of Mythdrannor just needs to be mounted with Nautilus/Dolphin then the game will launch.

Quoting: denyasisMy guess, including the CD as some sort of virtual drive as part of the install works fine in a modern OS, but is detectable by the DRM in the old OS.

Yep, that's exactly what I meant above. The workaround just doesn't work on Windows 98 since it was never meant for it and there are differences with modern Windows obviously :)

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Quoting: denyasisMy guess, including the CD as some sort of virtual drive as part of the install works fine in a modern OS, but is detectable by the DRM in the old OS.

Yep, that's exactly what I meant above. The workaround just doesn't work on Windows 98 since it was never meant for it and there are differences with modern Windows obviously :)

There certainly are some games they sell where they use a 'crack'. Like the manual look up ones, usually.

On that note, I kind of miss code wheels, they were rather fun! I think I still have mine from the Atari ST's version of Another World... I know I got the code wheel with my Bard's Tale IV copy... I should get around to playing through those...

I think even Dune 2 game has some manual focused questions like that.

Quoting: Shmerl

Quoting: denyasisMy guess, including the CD as some sort of virtual drive as part of the install works fine in a modern OS, but is detectable by the DRM in the old OS.

Yep, that's exactly what I meant above. The workaround just doesn't work on Windows 98 since it was never meant for it and there are differences with modern Windows obviously :)

You're right. I think I over thought or misunderstood. For some reason my brain went straight to hardlinking or unusual system calls that didn't exist back then lol. Sorry bout that.

When using WINE I typically just mount the ripped backup disc image I make for most of my games with CDEmu and it works like a treat.

Quoting: ShmerlI think even Dune 2 game has some manual focused questions like that.

My favorite was Leisure Suit Larry (3 I know for sure, can't recall on the others) would just ask you 'adult' questions. I was a smart kid, so could guess the answers most of the time. Too bad I grew into a dumb adult. 😜

Quoting: HamishWhen using WINE I typically just mount the ripped backup disc image I make for most of my games with CDEmu and it works like a treat.

I think there is some issue with hybrid disks that have audio (those aren't normal disks). There is no good way to handle them? If it's just data, you don't even need any ISOs/mounting, just designate some location as a "drive" in winecfg, set its type to CD-ROM there and it would work nicely.



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