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mrdeathjr 20 Nov 2023
Soon...................

Pengling 21 Nov 2023
Can't wait - I always enjoy seeing your testing posts.
Bragga 21 Nov 2023
What is the purpose of this testing ?
mrdeathjr 21 Nov 2023
What is the purpose of this testing ?

same objective when make nvidia and intel gpu tests, testing compatibility-stability on native and non native games

Bragga 23 Nov 2023
What is the purpose of this testing ?

same objective when make nvidia and intel gpu tests, testing compatibility-stability on native and non native games


Sorry I'm in the red side so I didn't read the green post :p
mrdeathjr 29 Nov 2023
Update:

Parts for upgrade are coming

!link

!link

According time spy results vega 7 shows 3x improvement vs uhd 630 at stock speed

UHD 630

!link

Vega 7

!link



Last edited by mrdeathjr on 29 Nov 2023 at 2:31 am UTC
mrdeathjr 2 Dec 2023
Well with system installed

Ryzen 5 4600G (6 cores - 12 threads) oc (3.700mhz stock) to 4.300mhz for all cores

Vega 7 IGP (448 shaders - 28 tmus - 8 rops according techpowerup gpu database) oc (1.900mhz stock) to 2.300mhz

CPU-Heatsink: Scythe Mugen 5 Black Edition

Mushkin Redline 16GB DDR4 of 4133mhz 1.4v CAS 19 (2 sticks)

Mainboard MSI Pro B550-VC

Curiously with oc, gkrell cpufreq plugin dont work but xfce cpu indicator show maximum frecuency only

Back to testing at hot wheels unleashed using low settings with high textures

On uhd 630 (GSkill DDR4 3600mhz CAS 18 dual channel) game run 29 to 30fps using 100% of gpu (recording dont possible because if gpu stay in 100% appear huge frame loss and huge audio desync)

And now with vega 7 oc game run 60fps using only 50 to 55% of gpu (recording are possible now)

!link

Resuming a simple seek vega 7 oc seems give around 3.5 to 4x improvement compared uhd 630



Last edited by mrdeathjr on 2 Dec 2023 at 1:49 pm UTC
mrdeathjr 2 Dec 2023
More updates

When i had gtx 1050 with core i3 8350k oc 4.5ghz, nier automata dont be possible recording because gpu up to 100%

according before i think test nier automata for see gpu limits but using same settings with vega 7 oc...........

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only use around 80% of gpu and for before is possible recording without fps loss and audio de sync

since last time use amd gpu on linux around 2011, improvement since these times is mind blowing

!link

and steam on wine dont give a system freeze like as intel gpu with xubuntu 24.04, aka in my case something seem dont right with intel gpu and xubuntu 24.04



Last edited by mrdeathjr on 2 Dec 2023 at 7:16 pm UTC
mrdeathjr 12 Dec 2023
Other interesting case is elderborn, with uhd 630 only give 30fps with gpu at 100%

but with vega 7 oc give this:

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mrdeathjr 14 Dec 2023
This titles have low fps with uhd 630:

Dead Rising 2 with many zombies stay around 35fps and use uhd 630 at 100%

now with vega 7 oc

!link


Atelier Ryza: only give 30fps with 100% of usage on uhd 630

now with vega 7 oc

!link



Last edited by mrdeathjr on 14 Dec 2023 at 2:56 pm UTC
mrdeathjr 18 Dec 2023
Update

Testing vega 7 @ 2300mhz with rpcs3 and yuzu appear huge improvement compared uhd-630


rpcs3 (same settings used on uhd 630)

!link

on the house of the dead 4 uhd 630 shows heavy stutter and fps dont pass 20fps with gpu at 100%


yuzu (same settings used on uhd 630)

!link

on super mario odyssey uhd 630 have heavy stutter and some little freezes when use dinosaur



Last edited by mrdeathjr on 18 Dec 2023 at 10:56 am UTC
mrdeathjr 19 Dec 2023
Testing dhewm3 (doom3 + wulfen pack mod: use pom) using mangohud with opengl dont appear mangohud but with zink appear correctly

i try on uhd-630 when i had, but i remember use gpu at 100% and performance stay around 30fps

and now with vega 7 oc gpu usage stay around 75%, uhd-630 is too weak for this title


OpenGL

!link

Zink

!link


however performance seems similar and at simple seek i dont see bugs



Last edited by mrdeathjr on 20 Dec 2023 at 12:49 am UTC
mrdeathjr 31 Dec 2023
Update

Testing some titles

Shadow of Mordor Native Vulkan

!link

Improvement compared geforce gtx 1050 is impressive because textures and models only can tested in medium because gtx 1050 only have 2gb of vram

But now with vega 7 oc support models in high and textures on ultra and gpu usage stay around 80 to 85% of usage but is much more smooth compared gtx 1050

Also have test some native games with zink and runs very well

!link

!link

!link

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and others

however zink use more vram around 100 to 200mb more compared regular implementation

back to wine appear some surprises case just cause 3

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with gtx 1050 only can use textures and models in low because gtx 1050 only have 2gb of vram

but now as shadow of mordor can use models and textures in very high with smooth performance



Last edited by mrdeathjr on 31 Dec 2023 at 3:49 am UTC
mrdeathjr 13 Feb 2024
Well with around two months of work update almost ready and videos now have chapters for more easily viewing

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in this chapters show more easily information about: wine configuration - some fix if is required - game configuration and gameplay

mrdeathjr 13 Feb 2024
This is a first gameplay videos with amd igpu, compared previous experiences with nvidia and intel

amd is a.........

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since test amd gpu around 10 years improvement is so huge and pass nvidia and intel in compatibility (this is outstanding), stability (this is mindblowing), performance and smoothness (outstanding too)

most titles used specially in wine case is non steam for test how run because steam have precompiled shaders

this is so impressive runs so smooth in various titles meanwhile when i had nvidia and minor on intel mesa have some stutter and little freezes related shaders

some examples of these are sonic and sega all stars racing, lord of the rings war in the north and others

performance improvement in vanquish is so huge for example vanquish on nvidia runs around 45fps when i had geforce gtx 1050 and now runs 60fps smoothly

other issue is see how affect 2gb of vram of gtx 1050 and now with vega 7 oc with 4gb texture missed are gone and performance up so much

some native apps - emulators use opengl and for these i decide use zink exclusive (i dont have interest in test opengl in this cases)

is impressive how zink runs on amd, feels more smooth than intel mesa and seems stay building for amd hardware than intel

however zink is not perfect for example in grid autosports is highly unstable in my case and using nanoboyadvance emulator show graphic bugs

curiously in bioshock infinite runs stable in begins but crash when appear in three father statues but if open game again in my case stay stable and dont show any crash after this

Resuming stay very impressed with amd mesa drivers and now personally believe is only real option for games i use



Native Games


Anima Gate of Memories Zink Native

!link

https://youtu.be/_JXFo-bdX1s


Bioshock Infinite Zink Native

!link

https://youtu.be/kS3a2yHiEV4


DevilutionX 1.5.2 Zink Native

!link

https://youtu.be/H6wfeFG9IAM


Dhewm3 + Wulfen Mod Zink Native

!link

https://youtu.be/apSVihxNd0s


Dirt 4 Vulkan Native

!link

https://youtu.be/9ex2iNqgl9Y


Forward to the Sky Zink Native

!link

https://youtu.be/g0UZ2kGcWCc


Gravel Zink Native

!link

https://youtu.be/VQkZfgYkPxM


GRID Autosports Native

!link

https://youtu.be/4k3KSXfnnU8


OpenMohaa 0.61 Zink Native

!link

https://youtu.be/Qh29m5-f_5I


Poi Zink Native

!link

https://youtu.be/cQVU6dF8IwU


Prey 2006 Zink Native

!link

https://youtu.be/NHYQGsLISXU


Saint Row The Third Zink Native

!link

https://youtu.be/BhJmwapwPwo


Shadow of Mordor Vulkan Native

!link

https://youtu.be/u-Y79cyY15g


Shadow Warrior Zink Native

!link

https://youtu.be/moeEl__CNOQ


TR1X 3.1 Zink Native

!link

https://youtu.be/Rucjr6_vN-Y


Yooka-Laylee Zink Native

!link

https://youtu.be/GgW4mHEUIZU



Windows Games with Wine


Alan Wake D9VK

!link

https://youtu.be/vZIB5wQcYSY


Bayonetta D9VK

!link

https://youtu.be/Ld-op8E9YcA


Blur D9VK

!link

https://youtu.be/2bIE3GqSBKU


Burnout Paradise D9VK

!link

https://youtu.be/T48OLoLxpMY


Control DXVK64

!link

https://youtu.be/D8Q-8Vl9ADE


Darksiders 1 D9VK

!link

https://youtu.be/AonH6FP-v7s


Dead Rising 2 D9VK

!link

https://youtu.be/9VbqWVjHT4s


Hellblade DXVK64

!link

https://youtu.be/cJYbxbYqs48


Just Cause 3 DXVK64

!link

https://youtu.be/RtzkE-PKtEs


Lord of The Rings War in North D9VK

!link

https://youtu.be/3IKuLtu8yVs


Metal Gear Rising Revengeance D9VK

!link

https://youtu.be/mgqPoqIc2GE


Need for Speed Hot Pursuit 2010 D9VK

!link

https://youtu.be/byQwmFBZBDc


Need For Speed Most Wanted 2012 DXVK

!link

https://youtu.be/FCDEzrIvLnY


Nier Automata DXVK64

!link

https://youtu.be/0g6otALZVsE


Prey 2017 DXVK64

!link

https://youtu.be/owf2FkvbMc4


Prince of Persia 2008 D9VK

!link

https://youtu.be/M3dHDTWbm8Q


Prince of Persia The Forgotten Sands D9VK

!link

https://youtu.be/LbBdtHaffnc


Ryse Son of Rome DXVK64

!link

https://youtu.be/eyX-CvaTOD0


Sonic and Sega All Stars Racing D9VK

!link

https://youtu.be/NqtD0FvdVhA


Stranglehold D9VK

!link

https://youtu.be/BS3x2l3hSAo


Test Drive Unlimited 1 D9VK

!link

https://youtu.be/1QCmjB1XoFE


Test Drive Unlimited 2 D9VK

!link

https://youtu.be/otz7IlX158w


The King of Fighters XIV Zink

!link

https://youtu.be/mVsX1iqBh4M


The Legend of Korra D9VK

!link

https://youtu.be/T-sk1nzEjzM


The Saboteur D9VK

!link

https://youtu.be/G9MWxwE4SQs


TMNT Mutants in Manhattan D9VK

!link

https://youtu.be/ZrOm3JhscFQ


Vanquish D9VK

!link

https://youtu.be/1_Uf6Gf7i9M


XIII 2020 DXVK64

!link

https://youtu.be/PFJlDWKDOJ4


Yakuza 0 DXVK64

!link

https://youtu.be/CLWm9D_xN6Y


Ys Origin D9VK

!link

https://youtu.be/wgueHSeCV2s



Native Emulators


Citra Vulkan Native

!link

https://youtu.be/sESNIUA3B3M


Clownmdemu 0.5.1 Zink Native

!link

https://youtu.be/FSbp46khpZM


Duckstation Vulkan Native

!link

https://youtu.be/aSUAFO4tWbE


Gopher64 Vulkan Native

!link

https://youtu.be/H2rcISPimJM


Hades Zink Native

!link

https://youtu.be/DI-V7xPnT8c


Mame 0.261 Zink Native

!link

https://youtu.be/IDEGYCmta08


Mame 0.262 Zink Native

!link

https://youtu.be/DXUX4PvOwVs


mGBA 0.13 GB Zink Native

!link

https://youtu.be/WPiBC0wQ7wI


mGBA 0.13 GBC Zink Native

!link

https://youtu.be/hgKyt4kod80


mGBA 0.13 GBA Zink Native

!link

https://youtu.be/E0tuBGKKWNc


mGBA 0.13 GBA3D Zink Native

!link

https://youtu.be/fyzHSCYXc-w


NanoboyAdvance OpenGL Native

!link

https://youtu.be/5_duL7u3M_A


NooDS Zink Native

!link

https://youtu.be/1-R_J3-KgMY


PPSSPP 1.17 Vulkan Native

!link

https://youtu.be/W_a8rNFFK94


Rosalie Mupen GUI 0.5.6 Zink Native

!link

https://youtu.be/epDaBC5R1Tk


SameBoy 0.16.2 GB Zink Native

!link

https://youtu.be/sg-dByhvZLM


SameBoy 0.16.2 GBC Zink Native

!link

https://youtu.be/TdlqbPgangs


Snes9x 1.62.3 Vulkan Native

!link

https://youtu.be/GY7bhTkh-IE


VBA-M 2.18 GB Zink Native

!link

https://youtu.be/lKDpEWJgQi4


VBA-M 2.18 GBC Zink Native

!link

https://youtu.be/-jloKPeaCPI


VBA-M 2.18 GBA Zink Native

!link

https://youtu.be/koCqrWVJ6ps



Last edited by mrdeathjr on 13 Feb 2024 at 3:42 am UTC
Avehicle7887 13 Feb 2024
Darksiders 1 D9VK

!link

https://youtu.be/AonH6FP-v7s



So if I understood correctly by the yt video, removing the Audio track makes the videos play fine?
mrdeathjr 14 Feb 2024
Darksiders 1 D9VK

!link

https://youtu.be/AonH6FP-v7s


So if I understood correctly by the yt video, removing the Audio track makes the videos play fine?

yeah cinematic audio track is source of problem in darksiders, stay in wmapro and wine still dont fix

mrdeathjr 19 Feb 2024
Testing other titles for future videos, vega 7 oc performance is impressive compared gtx 1050 as said in before, specially when games use more than 2gb of vram


!link

!link

v-rally 4 is very interesting case because gtx 1050 can run with lower textures but still with this setting show missed textures but with vega 7 oc runs smoothly with higher textures and now show textures complete


!link

destroy all humans with gtx 1050 use all vram and sometimes show heavy freezes maybe related to vram but with vega 7 oc runs smoothly with higher textures


!link

system shock remake


!link

one piece world seeker with gtx 1050 use all vram and also have some freezes (vram?) but now with vega 7 oc runs smoothly


!link

anno 1404 runs very well, this game also runs good before


!link

!link

this games are no one lives forever and riddick dark athena, this titles are tested with zink and runs very well (riddick dark athena dont run with intel mesa in my case)

almost forget testing some old titles case lego dx9 games appear some issues with audio but seems related esync
normally i use export WINEESYNC=1 for activate esync but in this titles if use export WINEESYNC=0 all audio issues are gone

personally i think disable esync if games are ports of Xbox 360 / PS3 or lower, esync activated could be usefull for Xbox One / PS4 ports or newer games

another issue is laa (large adress aware)

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/large-address-aware.112556/

in some games when appear some crashes without appear winedbg like anno 1404 or if begins without audio like
007 legends* and maybe others

activate laa solve this issues, audio back and unexpected crashes are solved in before cited cases

*007 legends is the first time run (also allow 4:3 moification in exe, this game have 16:9 ratio aka black bars in my 4:3 monitor) in my case until now, also input are fixed some years ago run but mouse dont work



Last edited by mrdeathjr on 19 Feb 2024 at 10:18 pm UTC
mrdeathjr 24 Feb 2024
Updating mesa drivers this week, in my case give a awful thing

ffmpeg encoding are damaged (record begins normally but reduce frames to 30fps when stay configurated to 60fps and record around 5 minutes, after this back to first frames, very strange error)

curiously when i had intel uhd 630, obs have a huge error gpu usage up around 80% only with open program (no recording)

but now with vega 7 oc works and in same before situation gpu stay around 5%, and recording back to work normally (no frame fps reduction and all frames stay complete)

!link

!link



Last edited by mrdeathjr on 24 Feb 2024 at 12:14 pm UTC
mrdeathjr 2 Mar 2024
Testing another bunch of titles case damnation, rise of argonauts and dark sector

damnation and rise of argonauts in before when i had geforce gtx 1050 show stutter compiling shaders but now runs much better

!link

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also damnation 1st level and final of 1st level in my case sometimes suddenly crash when i had geforce gtx 1050 but now with amd mesa stay stable in all 1st level

another interesting case is dark sector, when i had intel uhd 630 game runs but finish 1st mission in my case game suddenly crash (without or with laa used) and cant continue after this

but now with amd mesa crash after first mission still appear but leave pass (however needs laa, if dont have laa game crash before begin 1st chapter in my case), only need press escape key for pass cinematic

!link

however show another crash around finish 3rd chapter

almost forget in my case today mesa driver update march 02
(oibaf ppa), solve a nasty issue related to mouse cursor

sometimes dont appear cursor but if you have selected something appear selected but dont show cursor

for this reason dont test some strategy games and affect lili child of geos test (need retest game, suddenly around 6 hours of game test go to trash yeah XXXXDDDDD)

back to results, issue is solved and for before i dont think update drivers (only if appear a huge thing)

!link

!link

this driver add VK_EXT_map_memory_placed for radv, this extension added to wine git too

https://source.winehq.org/git/wine.git/commit/1999e4f3f51c805a96e93fdf62bec0b200912229

maybe can appear in next wine 9.4

VK_EXT_map_memory_placed in theory can solve various issues related laa (32bit apps), case dark sector, 007 legends, anno 1404, race driver grid and many others

without forget appearently wine 9.4 comes with new menu or this seems according git



Last edited by mrdeathjr on 2 Mar 2024 at 2:09 pm UTC
mrdeathjr 2 Mar 2024
Continuing with testing, i compile lastest wine-git of yesterday march 01 (oibaf amd mesa drivers of today march 02), in this wine as commented before as added VK_EXT_map_memory_placed

And results are very impressive:

!link


anno 1404 fix crash when try loading game without laa

!link


dark sector fix crash in prologue scene if stay alone, maybe comment more later about fix crash when finish 1st chapter (another around 2 hours of gameplay video to trash XXXDDDDD)

!link


007 legends have sound correctly and modded aspect ratio too without laa flag

!link

!link

at simple seek can recommend have lastest amd mesa oibaf drivers aka today drivers march 02 for use VK_EXT_map_memory_placed

resuming if next wine comes with VK_EXT_map_memory_placed like git, progess will be huge because virtual memory issue stay so many years in wine



Last edited by mrdeathjr on 2 Mar 2024 at 7:05 pm UTC
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