wine: Read access denied for device L"\\??\\Z:\\",

That's a red herring, I see the same message in my logs all the time. The real problem is elsewhere.

Application could not be started, or no application associated with the specified file.
ShellExecuteEx failed: File not found.

Yep, file not found, so are you in the wrong directory maybe, or did you misspell the .exe you wanted to run with Wine?

wine: Read access denied for device L"\\??\\Z:\\",

That's a red herring, I see the same message in my logs all the time. The real problem is elsewhere.

Application could not be started, or no application associated with the specified file.
ShellExecuteEx failed: File not found.

Yep, file not found, so are you in the wrong directory maybe, or did you misspell the .exe you wanted to run with Wine?

i see, that makes sense.

so the first part is normal. i had to reinstall my os cause of other issues.

its poissble i might of misspelled

i thought installing wolfenstein - platinum editoon in id software studios of c drive was good. though the default of the dvd game i have is in drive f.

i intend to type fast.

i tried installing it via winecfg.

that doesnt seem to work. when i load disc 2 and press ok. it stops the install.

so it must be something im doing wrong.

Do you know Lutris and other Helper applications? I would use one of them.

Do you know Lutris and other Helper applications? I would use one of them.

i tried using them. but, some of them got too confusing.

lutris seems decent. but has issues asa well with cds.

just an idea. would two external blue ray players would solve my issue?

its funny, this is the first time rtcw managed to gvie me this much problems.

I Don't know what actually is going on, you are not give much Informations at all and also i ditched Physical Optical Media many Years ago.

I have no clue what the real Problem might be now.

Hi.
For some software (i.e. VR-Video Player through Steam-Proton) i have some kind of similar issues where the application is only allowed to access to the app-directory and the proton-sandbox.
But you can add additional paths via:

   PRESSURE_VESSEL_FILESYSTEMS_RO="<your absolute path(s) go here>" %COMMAND%

to gain access to other places which appear then (as drives if separate partition) in your app/game... this works recursively on the partition the path is on.. if you mounted something underneath it, you have to define that separately (i.e. symlinking doesn't work if it's a differrent mount!)
that's for steam-proton stuff... but maybe this applies also to your problem? maybe look at the wine help pages...

for steam-proton stuff these pages i found these pages to be helpful:

github: proton directory sharing documentation

github: proton runtime config options documentation

Hi.
For some software (i.e. VR-Video Player through Steam-Proton) i have some kind of similar issues where the application is only allowed to access to the app-directory and the proton-sandbox.
But you can add additional paths via:

   PRESSURE_VESSEL_FILESYSTEMS_RO="<your absolute path(s) go here>" %COMMAND%

to gain access to other places which appear then (as drives if separate partition) in your app/game... this works recursively on the partition the path is on.. if you mounted something underneath it, you have to define that separately (i.e. symlinking doesn't work if it's a differrent mount!)
that's for steam-proton stuff... but maybe this applies also to your problem? maybe look at the wine help pages...

for steam-proton stuff these pages i found these pages to be helpful:

github: proton directory sharing documentation

github: proton runtime config options documentation

The OP is asking about WINE not Proton.

Just a shot in the dark but I wonder if this might be the answer. WINE is notorious for having problems with optical drives. Many of the old disc-based games have DRM requiring the install disc to be in the optical drive to launch and/or play the game. I have never succeeded in mapping to the real optical drive in Winecfg. The only solution that ever worked for me was to create a disc image on my hard drive, by copying the contents of the install disk to a folder, then using Winecfg to map that folder as an optical drive.

This will work for simple disc-check DRM but it may not work for discs with some form of copy protection DRM.

Last edited by Caldathras on 4 May 2024 at 3:46 pm UTC

Just a shot in the dark but I wonder if this might be the answer. WINE is notorious for having problems with optical drives. Many of the old disc-based games have DRM requiring the install disc to be in the optical drive to launch and/or play the game. I have never succeeded in mapping to the real optical drive in Winecfg. The only solution that ever worked for me was to create a disc image on my hard drive, by copying the contents of the install disk to a folder, then using Winecfg to map that folder as an optical drive.

This will work for simple disc-check DRM but it may not work for discs with some form of copy protection DRM.

really? does rtcw have it? awhile doom 3, quake 4 and etc dont?

hmm, interesting. so rtcw has and probably some type of drm.

so for this particular game there is a chance i wont eb able to install it this time.

drm would makes sense. its weird how my other games can easily load. this one doesnt. though it makes sense.

To the best of my knowledge, none of the old id Software games had any sort of disc DRM. Only a serial key check. So I don't think that's the problem.

I have also never heard of a disc copy protection used on an installer. Was that ever a thing? So I don't that's the problem either.

I'm still not sure what exactly your problem is? Does Wine or the installer crash when you insert the second disc?

One gotcha I remember with multi disc installers and Wine is if you run Wine from the directory the disc (or disc image!) is mounted. Unmounting won't work, you'll get a "target is busy" error. Forcing an unmount might confuse or crash Wine.

So, this will not work:
cd /media/DISC
wine setup.exe

Use this instead:
cd ~
wine /media/DISC/setup.exe

By the way, it looks like modern Wine have picked up support for quite a few disc copy protections, several versions of Safedisc etc. should supposedly work now. But keep in mind that very few people actually test or use those (not even modern Windows is guaranteed to work with those) so your mileage may vary!

hmm, interesting. so rtcw has and probably some type of drm.

To the best of my knowledge, none of the old id Software games had any sort of disc DRM.

Unfortunately, both of you missed the point of my comment. It wasn't about the DRM. Perhaps I shouldn't have used the term DRM to refer to a simple disc check.

The point is that most of the old CD/DVD based games required that you have the CD/DVD in the optical drive in order to launch the game. This is a problem for WINE as I mentioned in my previous post. Usually, there is no problem with installing the game from CD/DVD. The problem comes after, when you try to launch the game. The game expects to see the CD/DVD but, due to WINE's inability to map real optical drives, it can't. The launch fails.

My workaround is good for discs with a simple disk check but would likely fail if there is any form of copy protection. (The copy protection might detect that disk image in the folder has been copied.)

As I said, this is just a shot in the dark. It may not be the answer to your particular problem.


Last edited by Caldathras on 5 May 2024 at 5:29 pm UTC

i know 32 games cant run unless you have wine or bottles or lutris. but, i use dvd games.

i prefer cds over steam.

Lutris is actually quite easy to use. I could describe how to manually set up a prefix and install a game without using one of Lutris' scripts, if you're interested.

I just don't know if it will get around WINE's optical drive issues. I moved to purchasing digital versions from GOG now, to avoid the complications of disc-checks and DRM. GOG provides offline installers that don't require a launcher like Steam to work.

For guides on how to manually install games in WINE, try GamersOnLinux (not to be confused with our host's site). They mostly expect that you are using the old PlayOnLinux tool and Steam, but I've found that their instructions adapt easily to Lutris (or Winetricks) and GOG's installers.

Last edited by Caldathras on 5 May 2024 at 5:50 pm UTC

i know 32 games cant run unless you have wine or bottles or lutris. but, i use dvd games.

i prefer cds over steam.

Lutris is actually quite easy to use. I could describe how to manually set up a prefix and install a game without using one of Lutris' scripts, if you're interested.

I just don't know if it will get around WINE's optical drive issues. I moved to purchasing digital versions from GOG now, to avoid the complications of disc-checks and DRM. GOG provides offline installers that don't require a launcher like Steam to work.

For guides on how to manually install games in WINE, try GamersOnLinux (not to be confused with our host's site). They mostly expect that you are using the old PlayOnLinux tool and Steam, but I've found that their instructions adapt easily to Lutris (or Winetricks) and GOG's installers.

i have figure dit out.

what i did seemd to work. first i copy the files from the in stall disc 1 and 2, then when taht is finished. i use brasero to drag the files in it. then name the file and create the iso image. then i mount it and start the install. then i start disc one setup and then it askes for disc 2. then i use winecfg to mount the iso location and that worked.

so it seems i got it work. now know what to do.

Turns out that this is indeed a bug in Wine, specific to the Return to Castle Wolfenstein - Platinum Edition installer. It uses some convoluted way to detect the disc change that Wine can't handle. It seems even some Windows users had this problem.

Turns out that this is indeed a bug in Wine, specific to the Return to Castle Wolfenstein - Platinum Edition installer. It uses some convoluted way to detect the disc change that Wine can't handle. It seems even some Windows users had this problem.

sounds like its a common issue. sound slike its a bad bug.

sounds like its a common issue. sound slike its a bad bug.

Not really common, it seems to be specific to this particular (20 year old) installer.

i know 32 games cant run unless you have wine or bottles or lutris. but, i use dvd games.

i prefer cds over steam.

Lutris is actually quite easy to use. I could describe how to manually set up a prefix and install a game without using one of Lutris' scripts, if you're interested.

I just don't know if it will get around WINE's optical drive issues. I moved to purchasing digital versions from GOG now, to avoid the complications of disc-checks and DRM. GOG provides offline installers that don't require a launcher like Steam to work.

For guides on how to manually install games in WINE, try GamersOnLinux (not to be confused with our host's site). They mostly expect that you are using the old PlayOnLinux tool and Steam, but I've found that their instructions adapt easily to Lutris (or Winetricks) and GOG's installers.

i have figure dit out.

what i did seemd to work. first i copy the files from the in stall disc 1 and 2, then when taht is finished. i use brasero to drag the files in it. then name the file and create the iso image. then i mount it and start the install. then i start disc one setup and then it askes for disc 2. then i use winecfg to mount the iso location and that worked.

so it seems i got it work. now know what to do.

Interesting. I always wondered if it might work with ISOs. Never tried it myself.

Happy it worked out for you.

Turns out that this is indeed a bug in Wine, specific to the Return to Castle Wolfenstein - Platinum Edition installer. It uses some convoluted way to detect the disc change that Wine can't handle. It seems even some Windows users had this problem.

sounds like its a common issue. sound slike its a bad bug.

i know 32 games cant run unless you have wine or bottles or lutris. but, i use dvd games.

i prefer cds over steam.

Lutris is actually quite easy to use. I could describe how to manually set up a prefix and install a game without using one of Lutris' scripts, if you're interested.

I just don't know if it will get around WINE's optical drive issues. I moved to purchasing digital versions from GOG now, to avoid the complications of disc-checks and DRM. GOG provides offline installers that don't require a launcher like Steam to work.

For guides on how to manually install games in WINE, try GamersOnLinux (not to be confused with our host's site). They mostly expect that you are using the old PlayOnLinux tool and Steam, but I've found that their instructions adapt easily to Lutris (or Winetricks) and GOG's installers.

i have figure dit out.

what i did seemd to work. first i copy the files from the in stall disc 1 and 2, then when taht is finished. i use brasero to drag the files in it. then name the file and create the iso image. then i mount it and start the install. then i start disc one setup and then it askes for disc 2. then i use winecfg to mount the iso location and that worked.

so it seems i got it work. now know what to do.

Interesting. I always wondered if it might work with ISOs. Never tried it myself.

Happy it worked out for you.

i wa ssuprised myself when it worked. i didnt think it would of worked. but, it did somehow.

just curious. i notice my elder scrolls 3 morrowind install disc is not being detected like my other discs are. is it cause its an old software comaptability issue?

i was able to install it before on other distros.

not sure why this wont detect it.

i was able to now install quake 1, quake 2 and 4, doom 3 and wolfenstein platinum edition.

now i cant install elder scrolls 3 morrowind.