Don't blaze it too hard for the release of Wine 4.20

still on 4.12.1~buster wine-staging on debian stable :( but i started to move to steam+proton(-GE) anyways :)
for gaming sometimes i wonder if it wouldnt be better to be more bleeding edge with archlinux etc..
my mesa is still on 1.8.

Another alternate route to stay on bleeding edge would be to compile from source. The learning curve goes up a bit here but the end result allows for better flexibility. While compiling is related to programming, you're not required to be one to compile software (I can't even write a Helloworld program in C), so don't let it discourage you.

still on 4.12.1~buster wine-staging on debian stable :( but i started to move to steam+proton(-GE) anyways :)
for gaming sometimes i wonder if it wouldnt be better to be more bleeding edge with archlinux etc..
my mesa is still on 1.8.

No need to do anything drastic.
While Debian Stable isn't really the best choice for gaming, there's a quick fix for mesa and amdgpu, just pull them from Testing. You can grab Wine directly from WineHQ repo. :)
Stable has some very specific use cases and I would really think about upgrading to Testing fully for a gaming rig.

The alternative are to enable unstable/testing repositories with lower priority to install the more recent packages you want/need, and install them "by hand" with apt.

I don't recommend to do this.

Don't blaze it too hard for the release of Wine 4.20

But moooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooom!

Don't blaze it too hard for the release of Wine 4.20

Oh I will

still on 4.12.1~buster wine-staging on debian stable :( but i started to move to steam+proton(-GE) anyways :)
for gaming sometimes i wonder if it wouldnt be better to be more bleeding edge with archlinux etc..
my mesa is still on 1.8.

Sid is nice for gaming. You do get issues sometimes, like how Gnome 3.34 (or more specifically mutter) has been a nightmare recently. But this was exactly the same on Arch, obviously.
Most importantly you get up-to-date drivers and vulkan.

This wine version fix virtual desktop issue and non affect games allow use more higher resolution in windowed mode than virtual desktop resolution

Example: use 720p or more resolution in 1024x768 virtual desktop


^_^

Wine on a Saturday. What has the world come to.

for gaming sometimes i wonder if it wouldnt be better to be more bleeding edge with archlinux etc..
my mesa is still on 1.8.

They weren't for me. Debian Buster has been the best solution ever for my computer. I wouldn't recommend to go for the Testing repository now, as the current Stable branch is quite recent. Probably in the next year.

The only change that I have performed is to manually download and install the proprietary NVidia GPU driver, but it is an activity with negligible effort.
In case I need an updated version of Wine or DXVK, I'll let Lutris download and deploy it in the $HOME/.local directory, and use it specifically for that game.

And (a little OT) I would say that defeating Gyoubu Oniwa yesterday night was actually an awesome satisfaction:


Last edited by LordDaveTheKind on 19 Nov 2019 at 11:12 am UTC

for gaming sometimes i wonder if it wouldnt be better to be more bleeding edge with archlinux etc..
my mesa is still on 1.8.

It definitely would.
However, you have alternatives without ever leaving debian, while I think in this case it would be better to change distributions altogether.
The alternative are to enable unstable/testing repositories with lower priority to install the more recent packages you want/need, and install them "by hand" with apt.

yeah i did that... frankendebian.. its not recommended and i already had issues while doing so.
i also left testing because now everything is perfectly supported hardware-wise... :)

still on 4.12.1~buster wine-staging on debian stable :( but i started to move to steam+proton(-GE) anyways :)
for gaming sometimes i wonder if it wouldnt be better to be more bleeding edge with archlinux etc..
my mesa is still on 1.8.

No need to do anything drastic.
While Debian Stable isn't really the best choice for gaming, there's a quick fix for mesa and amdgpu, just pull them from Testing. You can grab Wine directly from WineHQ repo. :)
Stable has some very specific use cases and I would really think about upgrading to Testing fully for a gaming rig.

yeah frankendebian.. i did that.. but its much easier pulling from unstable to testing.
but for reasons i stopped using testing with buster. everything works now hardware-wise.

i use:
APT-Sources: https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/debian buster/main amd64 Packages
which is blocked since wine 4.1x needs a newer faudio which is not in stable.

still on 4.12.1~buster wine-staging on debian stable :( but i started to move to steam+proton(-GE) anyways :)
for gaming sometimes i wonder if it wouldnt be better to be more bleeding edge with archlinux etc..
my mesa is still on 1.8.

Sid is nice for gaming. You do get issues sometimes, like how Gnome 3.34 (or more specifically mutter) has been a nightmare recently. But this was exactly the same on Arch, obviously.
Most importantly you get up-to-date drivers and vulkan.

hm yeah thought about unstable as alternative to learning arch.
but those update nightmares than *can* occur, happen in situations when u cant need them...
maybe ill try... have to think about a downgrade path first.

for gaming sometimes i wonder if it wouldnt be better to be more bleeding edge with archlinux etc..
my mesa is still on 1.8.

They weren't for me. Debian Buster has been the best solution ever for my computer. I wouldn't recommend to go for the Testing repository now, as the current Stable branch is quite recent. Probably in the next year.

yeah thats the reason i stopped using testing when buster was released after so many years... :)
its just that i read so much linux news and always have to stop my curiousity to try things out because im on stable...

hard life ;)

Another alternate route to stay on bleeding edge would be to compile from source. The learning curve goes up a bit here but the end result allows for better flexibility. While compiling is related to programming, you're not required to be one to compile software (I can't even write a Helloworld program in C), so don't let it discourage you.

in my 22 years of linux desktop and server usage i compiled so much software... and spent hours finding dependices and code errors .... puuh
i think i burned megawatts off computing power compiling... thats something i never want todo again if i can avoid it :)
buts its a valid route for sure - with current hardware its not even blocking your pc for hours! ;)

Regarding to this posting 4.20 is a big step to EAC-support:

Well, the other guys already highlighted the funny bugs.

33498 Multiple application installers need setupapi.SetupDiCallClassInstaller implementation (USB over Network 5, Microsoft Windows CE Platform Manager 4.0/sub-installer of Embedded VC++ 4.0)

This instead is huge since finallly you can have (software) drivers to even install at all.

Yes, that means anticheat (which may still be broken for other reasons, but still)

-> https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/dwzj3v/wine_development_release_420_is_now_available/f7ni8hy?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x