The Reason Some Games Are Delayed For Linux In Humble Indie Bundles

I think you need some relaxing tea :P

I both see the value in their decision and pitfall of it. I've been buying the bundles since they started. They are a great way to get a lot games for a cheap price. Many of the games I have multiple copies of because I just like to support them. But anyways, they are helping Linux by getting more games to the platform. We know this isn't an easy task for many developers because they know nothing outside of Windows. They only know how to compile inside Visual Studio. The downside is you now have a game for Linux that may not get the best support. When SPAZ first came to Linux I had issues getting it to run. I even started talking with the developer (great group by the way). They had to talk to the guy that did their port, which kind of pointed me in the right direction. Good and bad I'm happy they are helping bring more games to Linux through these bundles. I won't complain that it takes longer to get to Linux. I'm happy they are supporting the platform.

I think you need some relaxing tea :P

Erm, okay?

I think he meant you are you harsh. I think that too to be honest.
What they say makes sense. I remember torchlight. It came out really bugged, but then stuff was fixed, so I sorta let them get away with it personally.

I think he meant you are you harsh. I think that too to be honest.
What they say makes sense. I remember torchlight. It came out really bugged, but then stuff was fixed, so I sorta let them get away with it personally.

Exactly how have I been harsh? I haven't, all I have done is laid out that facts with a small bit of my own opinion.

I think you need some relaxing tea :P

Agreed :) As long these ports aren't delayed for several years, I'm fine with it.

I think good games don't age. And there are other games to play in the meantime.

I would of asked for a button that took my Money and paid for a person to port the games.

I think you need some relaxing tea :P

Agreed :) As long these ports aren't delayed for several years, I'm fine with it.

I think good games don't age. And there are other games to play in the meantime.

Has anyone get Splot yet? ;-)
Will Vessel be complete someday?
Remember Dungeon Defenders!
And Remember the ***** wine ports like LIMBO.

HIB does a gret job for us. But sometimes I think, that they don't love their linux custumers very much.

I'm with Liam too. Humble values took a nosedive after their acquisition and now even the HiB is giving Linux short shrift. It's great that they started the ball rolling, but now Linux appears to be an afterthought for them.

The more those standards slip, the more the slider to the left for the Humble Tip. I gave $35 for the last bundle, a little more than usual, but I slid it down to two dollars on the Tip for two reasons - Antichamber wasn't on Steam, Giana was dropped.

I've subsequently had Antichamber crash to desktop a couple of times too, the resolution support is flaky and the screen tear is pretty bad - seems like a rush job.

I love Antichamber, and I'm delighted that I can play it on Linux, but if this is folk's first impression of the game under Linux, they're not going to love it as much as me. I wish the Humble guys would have polished it up instead of releasing it half-assed.

Antichamber is quite hard, and one of the rooms (the dev room that shows how a shader is computed) made me doubt it could be completed, as getting there involves almost glitching the engine, but it can be finished. The qwerty-only mappings are an inconvenience indeed.

chill out; it's only 1 game. :)

My main problem here is that all of Humble Bundles' previous forays into murky waters have always been met by the same people saying that "at least the Humble Indie Bundles will stay the same!"

A lot of people have either accepted or justified other questionable moves done by Humble Bundle by extolling the virtues of the magical "HIB" label. Well, now it appears that the "HIB" label is not the wondrous protective charm some might have hoped. It also has room for uncomfortable compromise.

I am actually not that bothered by the specific details involved in this particular instance; as long as the games do get ported it is not all that harmful. It is the trends involved that I find concerning.

The problem comes from relying on Humble Bundle to push out Linux ports, now that we have Valve we won't really need to rely on the Humble Bundle nearly as much. But we should definitely be thankful for their help.

Heck if anything they're the reason ports of Braid, Meatboy, Binding Of Issac and other games exist today and for that I am really thankful. I can see why they may get frustrated with the Linux market, it's unreasonable to ask all these developers to make Linux ports, and their in house developers that help port these games to Linux can only do so much at once. Their business is growing at a much faster pace than Linux, while they can still accommodate Linux every once in a while with the Indie bundles, it is nearly impossible to do with the bigger bundles of big games.

And to be fair, I'm not exactly hurt by the fact that this one game won't have a port until later this year, at least that has been said for us and it honestly could've been worse for us Linux users. Linux will grow soon with the release of Steam Machines and the push of Valve but until that happens this kind of thing will continue, as long as we remain at about 2 - 4 % of the gaming market we will remain an after thought even if we donate a lot more money, because in the end we only make about 15 - 20 % of Indie Bundle Revenue usually, Windows generally makes over 60 % of that profit and if you're running a business you focus on your main source of profit, not your smallest source. I know that may sound mean but while the Humble Bundle was created as a charity it has changed to a business and now they need money to run what they do and get more games out there.

They can't wait everytime for ports to be in excellent condition and for there to even be ports, as long as ports come at a reasonable pace and these ports get maintained I'm relatively happy. I know that really Humble Bundle could only do so much for Linux and it looks like they've about capped at their potential for pushing Linux, so I can't really ask any more of them, I'm looking forward to see what Valve's push for Linux can do and where it will cap, they are a much bigger and official company that run a real business, so it definitely should be more interesting to see.

On a side note I miss the days of iD supporting us, please come back iD Software, we miss you. :(

On a side note I miss the days of iD supporting us, please come back iD Software, we miss you. :(

you mean Bethesda ?....

http://kotaku.com/tag/doom-4

I somewhat Agree with this Editorial.

But we also have to take into account that Humble bundle now has more competitors in the form of "indie Royale", "Indie Gala" , "bundle stars", etc.

None of the prior make "multiplatform" a priority (But they have been including more linux games lately, which is a good thing). So in my eyes the HIB still gives the most incentive for linux ports and EXPOSURE of the platform.

Bundles are not going anywhere, they will keep playing a key part (for both devs and consumers) and as time goes by things will get better for us, as more and more devs become multiplatform conscious from the start and even adopt linux as a platform they can use regularly.

It is strange how Humble is wavering with the advent of SteamOS and the Steam Machines drawing ever closer. What is Humble thinking by doing this now of all times?

ports of Braid

Which is still not on Steam.
In fact, I have 3 dozens of games in my "Missing Linux version" category in my Steam library. All games that have working GNU/Linux versions, but not on Steam for some reason.

I'm not exactly hurt by the fact that this one game won't have a port until later this year, at least that has been said for us

Let's recap that next year, okay? Because I still don't believe that Linux port of Giana Sisters will ever come.

I think what HIB is trying to accomplish isn't easy yet, they're still going against the current after all this time. I'd like to see many of you leading the HIB and see what you'd get, maybe more maybe less. Anyway, being a customer that wants what he pays for, I just give money for games with ports already out so they're loosing some money by being late.

Steam is getting a lot of praise here, and the others get a lot of criticism like this. I'd say a lot of games on Steam are there thanks to HIB, Unity, and individuals pushing for it, like the porters, Ryan and others. Valve's interest in GNU/Linux is totally selfish compared to those others that are really pushing, IMHO.

While I think HIB could do better and I will push for that, I wouldn't be too hard but rather have a lot of respect for what they do.

There doesn't seem to be lot of the humble spirit left in these Humble Bundles. How the cross-platform requirement can be painful for Humble Bundle and their reputation when it once was one of the main points of the whole thing.

I'm thankful for their work and impact on the business. I just feel that these recent bundles haven't been as fun as they should be for everyone involved.

I think you need some relaxing tea :P

Agreed :) As long these ports aren't delayed for several years, I'm fine with it.

I think good games don't age. And there are other games to play in the meantime.

Has anyone get Splot yet? ;-)
Will Vessel be complete someday?
Remember Dungeon Defenders!
And Remember the ***** wine ports like LIMBO.

HIB does a gret job for us. But sometimes I think, that they don't love their linux custumers very much.

"Remember Dungeon Defenders!"
I have remembered for months and months and months, and talked to icculus about the version being incorrect... bugs with gamepads and local players joining, seg faults etc. he said it will get done... at some point... might be a few years tho at this pace.