GDC Europe ran a survey of 800 games industry professionals who attended a previous GDC event and about 17% stated they plan a game for Linux.
It's a really weird survey, as it pulls Windows/Mac together, but has Linux by itself. It would make more sense to have all three separated. They also say PC when they mean Windows, which is always annoying to see. Still, it's a pretty healthy percentage considering only a few years ago it would have probably been 0-1%.
It's also amusing to see them do the survey, have Linux as an option which beats out multiple other platforms, yet they don't mention anything about Linux in the text.
See the full article on it here.
It's a really weird survey, as it pulls Windows/Mac together, but has Linux by itself. It would make more sense to have all three separated. They also say PC when they mean Windows, which is always annoying to see. Still, it's a pretty healthy percentage considering only a few years ago it would have probably been 0-1%.
It's also amusing to see them do the survey, have Linux as an option which beats out multiple other platforms, yet they don't mention anything about Linux in the text.
See the full article on it here.
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grrrreaaaaat news indeed :)
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Hm. We've got 25% on Steam, probably with more old than new games. 17% would, well... not be more than that.
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grrrreaaaaat news indeed :)Haven't seen anyone use Tony the Tiger's "great" in a while. :-). Good job man! But you miss the "it's" part.
Anyhows, 17% of devs is a fairly healthy chunk in my opinion. It could be a lot worse.
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I'd like to see it be a lot higher, obviously. But then considering it smashes the numbers for the Wii U and NX (I know they weren't the most popular consoles ever) is pretty encouraging considering Nintendo is a massive company that has been in the industry for decades and Linux gaming is still very much in its infancy.
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This does not seem to be a very good survey. They not only lump Windows and Mac together, but also all the smartphones and tablets, while having microcategories such as Apple TV, Apple Watch. Where is Android TV, Android Wear? A tablet running Windows? And a VR headset is a peripheral just like a controller.
I am yet to read the full document, but it feels as if they cannot tell the difference between a platform and a form factor...
I am yet to read the full document, but it feels as if they cannot tell the difference between a platform and a form factor...
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This is fantastic, 17% are confirmed, no doubt the unconfirmed % may be higher.
This is how the avalanche starts.
More games leads to better drivers leads to more sales leads to better steam machines leads to more games leads to...
This is how the avalanche starts.
More games leads to better drivers leads to more sales leads to better steam machines leads to more games leads to...
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This is fantastic, 17% are confirmed, no doubt the unconfirmed % may be higher.The year of the Linux Desktop!
This is how the avalanche starts.
More games leads to better drivers leads to more sales leads to better steam machines leads to more games leads to...
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I'd like to see it be a lot higher, obviously. But then considering it smashes the numbers for the Wii U and NX (I know they weren't the most popular consoles ever) is pretty encouraging considering Nintendo is a massive company that has been in the industry for decades and Linux gaming is still very much in its infancy.
Really looking for that reference, the not bad numbers, but what percentage of these developers who intend to launch on the day-1? This is also an important question!
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Linux is probably in its own category because the makers of the survey view it as such an oddball/exception. Bet this result was unexpected to them too!
Kinda cool to see it being more than half of the Xbone number. But without more background on where the devs came from this number could be all from fantastic to sad. If a vast majority of the 17% are in the "indie" category it's not much to cheer for.
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Kinda cool to see it being more than half of the Xbone number. But without more background on where the devs came from this number could be all from fantastic to sad. If a vast majority of the 17% are in the "indie" category it's not much to cheer for.
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Also note that only 61 percent of developers will release on Win/Mac.
So if we consider that these are all PC developers then 27.8 percent of PC developers are developing for Linux.
So if we consider that these are all PC developers then 27.8 percent of PC developers are developing for Linux.
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Also note that only 61 percent of developers will release on Win/Mac.
So if we consider that these are all PC developers then 27.8 percent of PC developers are developing for Linux.
Ah, but of course! That is a significant point.
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That is .. more than I expected. I rather thought it will be lower than 10 %.
But maybe that is the rising support by engines. A pretty good amount anyway. It will not solve my issue though (too many games, too few of them played).
But maybe that is the rising support by engines. A pretty good amount anyway. It will not solve my issue though (too many games, too few of them played).
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"PC when they mean Windows" This annoys the living shit out of me. We need some sort of meme or gif to post whenever we see this shit.
Like [https://imgflip.com/i/17lkis](https://imgflip.com/i/17lkis)
Or [https://imgflip.com/i/17lksi](https://imgflip.com/i/17lksi)
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Like [https://imgflip.com/i/17lkis](https://imgflip.com/i/17lkis)
Or [https://imgflip.com/i/17lksi](https://imgflip.com/i/17lksi)
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Hm. We've got 25% on Steam, probably with more old than new games. 17% would, well... not be more than that.Steam has very little presence in games outside the desktop/laptop form factor. This survey included consoles and phones, which are huge markets. So its face value before you add the needed big chunk o' salt is that if you take all the game developers on both computers (where Linux is an option) and consoles and phones (where it basically isn't), 17% of that whole field have Linux plans. Presumably if you removed the people concentrating on consoles or phones from the sample, the Linux percentage in the remaining group would be significantly higher.
Edited to add: Oh. Yeah, like JOndra91 already said.
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Side question: It seems like Chromebooks have been selling surprisingly well lately. Is anyone writing games for them? Would such games run on normal Linux? If they don't, could a library be written to make a normal Linux run them (or vice versa, to make a Chromebook run games for SteamOS as long as they were lightweight enough for the little thing)? Would any or all of these things be useful for general Linux gaming?
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17% is pretty good considering the lack of marketting or interest on Valve's side, but it's most probably less than it used to be a year ago. I remember seeing roughly 20% or more of the latest released titles on Steam supporting Linux, but at this moment out of the latest 100 games released on Steam only 13 of them support Linux.
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Well, let's just hope that 17% of developers don't join the ranks of the article below this one http://i.imgur.com/J7mSTwI.png :P
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I'd be even ok with just 5% IF this includes the AAA games.
I'm not sure many of them are included in the 17% stated.
I'm not sure many of them are included in the 17% stated.
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Side question: It seems like Chromebooks have been selling surprisingly well lately. Is anyone writing games for them? Would such games run on normal Linux? If they don't, could a library be written to make a normal Linux run them (or vice versa, to make a Chromebook run games for SteamOS as long as they were lightweight enough for the little thing)? Would any or all of these things be useful for general Linux gaming?
You can already play Steam Linux games on a Chromebook via a crouton chroot. I've done some gaming on my Toshiba Chromebook 2 2014 via an Ubuntu chroot and it plays stuff like Nuclear Throne, Risk of Rain and Binding of Isaac fine. I mean, it's not ideal (don't expect anything 3D to run), but for simple 2D games it's adequate. I've actually been thinking of trying out some VNs on it.
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Side question: It seems like Chromebooks have been selling surprisingly well lately. Is anyone writing games for them? Would such games run on normal Linux? If they don't, could a library be written to make a normal Linux run them (or vice versa, to make a Chromebook run games for SteamOS as long as they were lightweight enough for the little thing)? Would any or all of these things be useful for general Linux gaming?
You can already play Steam Linux games on a Chromebook via a crouton chroot. I've done some gaming on my Toshiba Chromebook 2 2014 via an Ubuntu chroot and it plays stuff like Nuclear Throne, Risk of Rain and Binding of Isaac fine. I mean, it's not ideal (don't expect anything 3D to run), but for simple 2D games it's adequate. I've actually been thinking of trying out some VNs on it.
I don't think that was what he was asking. It was not can you technically put Ubuntu on a weak chrome book and play Steam games. I think it was more can chrome games work on Linux with some fiddling/api easy on an existing dedicated gaming PC with Ubuntu on it.. because they are both Linux.
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