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Interesting, I just re-ran it (edit: Viking Village) using "Fastest" and it's getting 80 fps with Vulkan, but 70 fps with OpenGL. Looking at my system monitor under Vulkan it's cleanly using about 25% CPU on all cores and GL is using a sloppy 20% on the cores, which makes sense and explains the higher framerate.

So, it'll be nice when they can get Vulkan outperforming their OpenGL implementation when the game's played at higher settings.

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When I switched to Linux Total War games were the only games I really missed. Now they are all coming back to me. Thank you so much Feral! I hope you bring them all to Linux. Keep up the great work!

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Quoting: dubigrasu

Quoting: natewardawg

Quoting: dubigrasuI still have the projects yes, but it will probably take a while to rebuild them.

It shouldn't take that long, all you need for rebaking the lighting is one of those new 16 core Ryzen 9 processors :p
)

Ah, not that :)
What I mean is it will take a while to overcome my laziness (and rebuild them).

Haha, I know what you mean.

For the Viking Village I just got everything rebaked and threw my fps counter in there. Eyeballing it, OpenGL is getting about 42 fps at the beginning of the camera loop and Vulkan is getting 35 fps. This is on an Nvidia GTX 960 using Berserk settings, fullscreen, at 1920x1080.

So, that's consistent with what I've been seeing with my own games. I'm sure Vulkan will flip and be better than GL in future Unity updates. But for now, it's nice just to see they got Vulkan rendering everything properly. :)

I'll probably skip downloading and updating "The Courtyard" right now because, like you, I'm feeling lazy right now. :)

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With the i9 incoming, it looks like the battle for CPU supremacy will shift on who can pack the most cores in 1 die. Over the years I have seen very little improvements in Single core performance since Sandy Bridge (2nd Gen i-Series). I think AMD are very much on balance with price/performance, got no regrets with my 1700X, those 8 cores are truly a multitasking boon.

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Quoting: natewardawg

Quoting: dubigrasuI still have the projects yes, but it will probably take a while to rebuild them.

It shouldn't take that long, all you need for rebaking the lighting is one of those new 16 core Ryzen 9 processors :p
)

Ah, not that :)
What I mean is it will take a while to overcome my laziness (and rebuild them).

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Quoting: dubigrasuI still have the projects yes, but it will probably take a while to rebuild them.

It shouldn't take that long, all you need for rebaking the lighting is one of those new 16 core Ryzen 9 processors :p

Quoting: dubigrasuHere are the store links anyway:
https://www.assetstore.unity3d.com/en/#!/content/29140
https://www.assetstore.unity3d.com/en/#!/content/49377

Thanks for the links, I found the Viking Village right away, but would have spent forever trying to find the Courtyard since I had forgotten its' name. So, thanks again :)

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Quoting: StackMasher

Quoting: UrgickHow it goes with GTA V? Does someone tried it?

It's been working since like wine-staging 2.2, but not a lot has improved since that release. Performance sucks, there's quite a few graphical bugs, and you need a controller to play because the keyboard freezes the game. Newer versions don't work due to DRM, you have to either crack the game or run offline to skip updates. I have version 2 if I remember correctly

I made a video on it here: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5jyk9a

My ISP blocks it

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Quoting: nikkenIts a shame when the developers dont quality control better, especially with games that looks this good and fun to play. I hope they fix it quickly!

Apparently already fixed! But I'll wait for some confirmation before I purchase again.

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Quoting: natewardawg

Quoting: dubigrasu

Quoting: natewardawgHas anybody experience anything different with Unity builds?

I have some older results:

Awesome, thanks! I remember watching these shortly after you posted them. Any chance you still have those projects setup and can run them in 5.6.1?

Barring the obvious fact that the Unity Vulkan implementation has probably significantly changed since then, I suppose these also might give different results due to them being setup differently. The main difference off the top of my head is that neither of the projects I've mentioned have baked lighting, nor do they have static objects. Both games have fully dynamic objects and lighting. Neither of my projects has realtime GI either. I know at least for the second video you posted the project is also lit with realtime GI. These things might make a difference.

Of course I'll probably need to rebake the lighting and such, but I'm going to see if I can find these and do some tests myself as well :)

I still have the projects yes, but it will probably take a while to rebuild them.
Here are the store links anyway:
https://www.assetstore.unity3d.com/en/#!/content/29140
https://www.assetstore.unity3d.com/en/#!/content/49377

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Quoting: dubigrasu

Quoting: natewardawgHas anybody experience anything different with Unity builds?

I have some older results:

Awesome, thanks! I remember watching these shortly after you posted them. Any chance you still have those projects setup and can run them in 5.6.1?

Barring the obvious fact that the Unity Vulkan implementation has probably significantly changed since then, I suppose these also might give different results due to them being setup differently. The main difference off the top of my head is that neither of the projects I've mentioned have baked lighting, nor do they have static objects. Both games have fully dynamic objects and lighting. Neither of my projects has realtime GI either. I know at least for the second video you posted the project is also lit with realtime GI. These things might make a difference.

Of course I'll probably need to rebake the lighting and such, but I'm going to see if I can find these and do some tests myself as well :)

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Quoting: EhvisI'd be happy to help testing. I'm on Ubuntu 17.04 and my PC specs viewable, so you can check whether it adds to the diversity for testers.

And we have 3 :D 2 slots left <3
[for now at least]

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I'd be happy to help testing. I'm on Ubuntu 17.04 and my PC specs viewable, so you can check whether it adds to the diversity for testers.

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Quoting: MayeulCI just realized why I didn't have SS:Fusion. I have SS:TFE on CD and never bought it in Steam. I'll go for it, just because I like Croteam XD.

Just as a headsup, not necessarily for this particular game, but some publishers make their games available trough Steam if you enter your CD key.

Personal anecdote:

Spoiler, click me

That was actually some of my first games on Steam: As a teenager short on money, I bought a used half-life 1 CD box for 1€ on the net, entered the CD key a couple years later in Steam, and was pleasantly surprised to see that it had unlocked the whole goldsrc games collection (blueshift, CS, opposing force, ricochet, half-life,...).
A good investment :D

Yeah, for that I'd need to find the original box (only found the CD without key). The cash could be spent worse... I guess.

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Quoting: natewardawgHas anybody experience anything different with Unity builds?

I have some older results:

View video on youtube.com

View video on youtube.com

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edit: I just sent it to them via their contact form.

I have the same black screen bug in my Linux game builds. Here's a workaround the devs can use in their first scene that should fix the black screen issue if they haven't already. If anyone wants to send that to the devs please do. I don't own the game since I don't play multiplayer games :)

#if UNITY_STANDALONE_LINUX
IEnumerator Start()
{
        int width = Screen.width;
        int height = Screen.height;
        bool fullscreen = Screen.fullScreen;

        Screen.SetResolution(800, 600, false);
        yield return null;
        Screen.SetResolution(width, height, fullscreen);
}
#endif

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Quoting: oldrocker99I saw that Liam was playing Cossacks 3 and bought it on the spot. Windows only, it appears at least for now.:'(.

Oh dear. Keep in mind I often have access before it's public, never go by what im playing on Steam.

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Quoting: STiATJust 16? Ohh :-(. I have 4, the upgrade is almost not worth it XD.

Don't worry, it makes for 32 threads with SMT. Oh, well, you can still wait for the Epyc server chip, which has 32 cores, which makes 64 threads, if that's not enough.

One thing to note is that it is quite close to NUMA architecture (multi-socket), powered by AMD's "Infinity Fabric" (some sort of memory exchange bus similar to PCI). Non-NUMA aware workloads might perform less well on such architectures, but it was already the same on the Ryzen 7, that had two "core complexes". Hopefully, the scheduler will help with that, if the workloads don't do anything stupid like start a thread on each core when memory locality is critical.

Look at those server chips, man... *goes back counting his (few) banknotes*

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I just realized why I didn't have SS:Fusion. I have SS:TFE on CD and never bought it in Steam. I'll go for it, just because I like Croteam XD.

Just as a headsup, not necessarily for this particular game, but some publishers make their games available trough Steam if you enter your CD key.

Personal anecdote:

Spoiler, click me

That was actually some of my first games on Steam: As a teenager short on money, I bought a used half-life 1 CD box for 1€ on the net, entered the CD key a couple years later in Steam, and was pleasantly surprised to see that it had unlocked the whole goldsrc games collection (blueshift, CS, opposing force, ricochet, half-life,...).
A good investment :D

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My wallet is ready! This and Shogun 2! Lots for me to be excited about.

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From tests with my own Unity games Vulkan isn't going to do much (if anything) for anybody yet as far as Unity goes.

In one of our games which is not very heavy, since it's 2D, I'm getting:
OpenGL: 580 fps
Vulkan: 110 fps

For my other game, which is much more heavy (and 3D), I'm getting:
OpenGL: 120 fps
Vulkan: 80 fps

So, it's not there yet, but that's okay since this is the first official Unity release to include Vulkan support, albeit as an "experimental" feature. I think the initial focus is to get it to work and they'll worry about performance in subsequent releases.

Has anybody experience anything different with Unity builds?

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The global population limit has been increased to 32 000 units per map (2x bigger in comparison to the previous limit).

the limit was increased

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Quoting: oldrocker99I saw that Liam was playing Cossacks 3 and bought it on the spot. Windows only, it appears at least for now.:'(.

Keep refreshing buddy ;-).

Nah, I'm sure Liam will tell us when they finally release :D.

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I saw that Liam was playing Cossacks 3 and bought it on the spot. Windows only, it appears at least for now.:'(.

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You really need a AMD card to test too.

But for the benchmark - great work by Croteam. But we're used to that our Croatian friends are just ... awesome.

For Croteam not publishing on GoG anymore - would be an interesting question to forward to them.

I still need a newer radv to be able to try :-(. I really need to compile mesa myself as it seems.

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I just realized why I didn't have SS:Fusion. I have SS:TFE on CD and never bought it in Steam. I'll go for it, just because I like Croteam XD.
I even still got the Serious Sam Jacket (with the bomb on the back) which they gave me when we were organizing a lan party for 450 players featuring SS:TFE as a game to be played (though, network code was terrible back then and it was really hard to maintain the servers).

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Alas (at least on my hardware) one thing isn't yet fixed, namely lights on OpenGL.
I'd be curious if anyone can test (for example) Single Player > Campaign > Demo Palenque and check if shadows are present for both Vulkan and OpenGL.

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Just 16? Ohh :-(. I have 4, the upgrade is almost not worth it XD.

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Quoting: DamonLinuxPL

Quoting: Eike

Noted aaannnnd... noted! :D
anybody else? =)

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I'd be happy to test! (Debian Jessie, Nvidia proprietary drivers, hardware see "View PC Info on the left)

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Quoting: dubigrasuWell, benchmarks are rarely 100% accurate, most of the time are only general scenarios where various elements/NPC/etc are acting at random. That's why plenty of runs are needed in order to extract an average you can use.

Of course, I just like to note it.

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Well, benchmarks are rarely 100% accurate, most of the time are only general scenarios where various elements/NPC/etc are acting at random. That's why plenty of runs are needed in order to extract an average you can use.

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