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Something that comes to mind, on reading this:

Assume you have a load of 4-pack game gifts (for instance) lying in your inventory because you haven't gifted them 'yet'. Then under this scheme you gift them to someone, and that person declines the gift. So the rejected gifted game gets put back into your Steam account as Wallet Credit.

1) Is it definitely going to work that way? (Or am I missing something.)

2) If I buy a 4-pack game for £10. The single game is £4 (say). I then 'gift' and get the 3 gifted games rejected by the persons I gifted them to. Then that would mean I get £7.50 of Wallet Credit back in my account instead? Is "that" how it would work? Sounds like a system which is open to "abuse".

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Quoting: razing32Underrail did not work well on wine last time i tried.

The last time I tried it worked reasonably well with latest wine staging and all .net versions installed in the prefix. Which was better than previously.

On the topic, I'll keep an open optimistic mind regarding Atom RPG, although I have to agree, the lighting doesn't look very good. Still, hoping they improve on that and willing to overlook it if the game itself is solid.

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" However, if there's a major difference in pricing between the countries you won't be able to gift it to them."
they need an solution to people who want to gift an person from an different country even it if mean paying more because the game is more expensive there.

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Quoting: bubexel

Quoting: slaapliedjeI wonder if they fixed the Steam Audio for Dyimg Light yet.

You have to tweak settings, or it says your microphone is making too much noise, and you will draw zombies toward you. Funny thing is, it isn't muting it, it is like the motherboard mic input has to be left at full volume, and you have to turn down the steam audio mic.

They fixed that, i was playing for 8 hours in a row with friend in coop, and it was the best experience i had with this game since i bought it. No problem with mic, solid 60 fps with max settings and zero network problems. Was really funny and perfect. We had to wait really long time but now game works perfect on multiplayer. Finally!

PD: btw, steam audio is not that. Steam audio is a new 3D audio, sounds that work with environment, raytracing, etc

Ah, okay, I thought it was like the in-game voice thingy.

Nice that they fixed that bug. We should get some of us Linux nerds together and play. I definitely could use some backup when taking out the Volatile caves in The Following.

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Is it Razer that said recently that they were interested in supporting Linux? I'm not able to find a news about it, but I'm pretty sure it was them... do you remember that?

Edit:
I think that it is simply this sticked forum post by an official Razer staff:
https://insider.razerzone.com/index.php?threads/welcome-to-the-linux-corner.20618/

If their Laptops get compatible with Linux... oh man, I'm gonna buy the shit out of them.

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This one is on my GOG wishlist. It looks to be in the same thread as Planet Explorers.

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Quoting: MayeulCWhile that *might* be true for the kernel (sort of, you can have both amdgpu and radeon enabled for the earlier GPUs, and blacklist one at startup time), RADV and the AMDGPU-PRO (vulkan) driver are using the same kernel module, so there is really no such policy.

I'm not saying that they implemented a system to prevent having two drivers for the same hardware, I'm saying that the maintainers' policy is to refuse patches that would enable two drivers for the same hardware. The idea behind that is to prevent to split the code and the resources in two. So that's why RADV and AMDGPU-PRO can live together: AMDGPU-PRO is not open source, so not in the kernel, so not under this maintainer' policy.

That being said, since these drivers are user space, I might just be saying garbage :D

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So i guess the few gifts in my inventory just became more valuable.

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The graphics really doesn't look nice, more like cheap plastics. Also, if you say it has classes... bleh.

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Quoting: BeemerTBH - The refund shouldn't happen unless the gift is declined and the purchases opts not to keep it for later in their inventory. I can't tell you how many games I've bought on sale, saved them in inventory, then gifted them later for a birthday, christmas, or good report card. Also, by buying on sale, I can later gift several at a time instead of just one.

As long as this is implemented, I'll only be buying games for myself from now on. That means no more four-packs either to give out copies later.

Beemer

^ This.

QuoteAnother change, which actually seems rather pro-consumer, is that if the gift is declined, the person who purchased it gets a refund instead of it sneaking into their inventory. I think that's a fantastic option in case of unwanted gifts, no one loses out. I'm actually quite impressed they did that, it's one change I'm happy with since I get a bit trigger happy sending gifts during the holiday season. It brings purchases as gifts on Steam more in line with physical copies, being able to return it if it's not right.

I want a rejected gift in my Inventory.
So in the new way, if you get the refund you get the money in your Steam wallet. If you pay via Paypal, you get the money in your Steam Wallet. The same if you pay via Credit Card. Why to hell i get the Money in my Steam Wallet?

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TBH - The refund shouldn't happen unless the gift is declined and the purchases opts not to keep it for later in their inventory. I can't tell you how many games I've bought on sale, saved them in inventory, then gifted them later for a birthday, christmas, or good report card. Also, by buying on sale, I can later gift several at a time instead of just one.

As long as this is implemented, I'll only be buying games for myself from now on. That means no more four-packs either to give out copies later.

Beemer

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Have played it for an hour or two and am very impressed so far. I like the slightly retro feel, though the scrolling is a little laggy at times.

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Quoting: UltraVioletseems really good to be able to get the game into your library if its declined, but, hopefully you know the person your buying a gift for and if all would like it or not before you buy it :-)

Actually it won't show up on your library, it will be refunded.

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Quoting: STiAT

Quoting: pete910

Quoting: CreakKnowing that the Linux kernel maintainers don't allow two drivers enabled for the same hardware at the same time (from what I understood), there's going to be a battle between RADV and AMD if they open source their Vulkan drivers...

They would more than likely merge the two.

I highly doubt that. We may see the AMDGPU-PRO driver making use of radv in future instead of their own implementation below AMDs AL in their driver. Same thing which goes on now with the DC/DAL patchset. It's more work involved there for the AMD devs, and AMD has been .. slightly pissed off not being able to do what ever they want for their hardware in the kernel, so we may still end up with two implementations in the end ;-).

We are referring to Vulkan and Radv not the kernel driver

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seems really good to be able to get the game into your library if its declined, but, hopefully you know the person your buying a gift for and if all would like it or not before you buy it :-)

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I have a friend that streams it on and off

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Quoting: nitroflowJim Sterling will have a field day with the stamina meter if he ever gets his hands on this :D

Yeah, they badly need to balance that. Stamina is just too damn low constantly.

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Quoting: nitroflow

Quoting: CybolicI've got a Roccat Nyth myself [...]

I can adjust volume, mute, play/pause, cycle up and down gnome desktops, bring out activities overview and push to talk on discord all with a single profile with my tyon!

Precisely! My Nyth desktop profile is set up to switch desktops, move windows between desktops, cycle volume up and down, mute on/off, play/pause and next/prev music, switch between tabs, press ctrl (excellent for zooming in various apps), press enter/escape (great for a quick dialogue response), do horizontal scroll, stop/reload/back/forward in web pages/file manager and alt tab cycle (with ctrl+alt tab as an extra bonus). Having all that readily available from a single profile is frankly amazing - and the buttons are easy to find and press as well! :D

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Quoting: babai

QuoteCan't wait to play it!

You just don't play Klei games, you fall in love with them :) I'm sure the linux version will be a very polished port as are rest of Klei games.

I love you Klei

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Quoting: CreakKnowing that the Linux kernel maintainers don't allow two drivers enabled for the same hardware at the same time (from what I understood), there's going to be a battle between RADV and AMD if they open source their Vulkan drivers...

While that *might* be true for the kernel (sort of, you can have both amdgpu and radeon enabled for the earlier GPUs, and blacklist one at startup time), RADV and the AMDGPU-PRO (vulkan) driver are using the same kernel module, so there is really no such policy.

In theory, it would be pretty easy, even right now, I think, to make a userspace utility to launch an application with one driver or another, with a right click.
Those are the userspace drivers, they should just communicate with the kernel module via libdrm or similar, and handle the shader compilation, scheduling, etc.

Quoting: ElectricPrismSo in other words this means that RADV driver is 72.4% conforming to the rendering test in the same way that browsers conform to ACID2 and ACID3 test to test their rendering capabilities?

Not really, more like your car is 100% operational (conformant), but it doesn't have some options that could apply to other products: skis, wings, thrusters, whatever. Maybe even some more relevant but narrow-use functionality like an elevated air intake.
Sorry, that was the only analogy that I could think of.

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Jim Sterling will have a field day with the stamina meter if he ever gets his hands on this :D

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when they release this for purchase on steam I'll most likely grab it. I'm stupidly addicted to the open world-sandbox-survival games. it reminds of the addiction i had with MMOs, when they were just becoming a thing, when Ultima online, EQ and Asheron's Call were the major MMOs of the time.

All we need now is Blizzard to make a similar game and it to become the greatest thing since sliced bread and everyone claim it was the first one ever made and we'd be set.

Then every other company could just make similar "clones" and I would be totally happy :)

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Klei are about the only ones from which such a statement has any value in my eyes, these days ! Immediately adding this to my wishlist.

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I just despertely want it to be either Doom, Quake Champions, or Prey. Any of those big 3 would make my day.
All of those 3 would make my whole decade.

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Looks like I might be picking this one up. Any sign of a GOG release?

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Just in time for VEGA.

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Quoting: babai

QuoteCan't wait to play it!

You just don't play Klei games, you fall in love with them :) I'm sure the linux version will be a very polished port as are rest of Klei games.

Can confirm, Don't Starve was addictive as hell the art was soooo good!

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I'll be really, really pleased if its DOW 3, I love the DOW series.

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Quoting: pete910

Quoting: CreakKnowing that the Linux kernel maintainers don't allow two drivers enabled for the same hardware at the same time (from what I understood), there's going to be a battle between RADV and AMD if they open source their Vulkan drivers...

They would more than likely merge the two.

I highly doubt that. We may see the AMDGPU-PRO driver making use of radv in future instead of their own implementation below AMDs AL in their driver. Same thing which goes on now with the DC/DAL patchset. It's more work involved there for the AMD devs, and AMD has been .. slightly pissed off not being able to do what ever they want for their hardware in the kernel, so we may still end up with two implementations in the end ;-).

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Or AMD would hand it to dave to integrate into RADv which I feel they would do.

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