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Quoting: zimplex1I hope it comes to Linux, but this looks like the worst Dawn of War game ever so I won't let this atrocity touch my hard drive.

if you are talking about those over negative comments/reviews on metacritc or steam, you have to keep in mind that this happen to DoW2 also because it was so different from DoW1 and CoH2 got A LOT of negative reviews in metacritic from russians

anyway most of the negative comments have been that its not the DoW1 or DoW 2 remake what they wanted...and/or because it has some MOBA, Starcraft and Warcraft 3 elements and that means it's exactly like those games gameplay style...with that logic DoW2 is way more MOBA than DoW3.

what DoW3 really is, it's a combination of the previous games and with some borrowed elements of other games to enhance experiense, some will like them or not...you can't please everyone.

another negative comment has been about the graphics that they are too "cartoony" and the animation aren't that great..
I personally don't really see this, okay maybe some areas of the maps...maybe little bit.
What Relic wanted to make DoW3 to look more closer to the table-top's figurines...thats why it's more colorful and that doesn't make it cartoony. DoW2 (and 1) was also "cartoony" just more darker...also if u check 40k art style there is some that are really colorful and some are darker, if you prefer the darker style that's fine, it doesn't make this any more wrong/bad.

anyway, is this game perfect? oh god NO but the core elements are good, the only problem I have with it is that there is only 3 factions and little bit to few MP maps and 1 game mode.

some of these things were postponed and will arrive later (unfortunately), but the biggest question is that how (and when) will these arrive....the good thing is that there is MOD support and there is already few maps made, and at least on CoH2 Relic did add the most popular ones to the game

so I would give this game a 7 or 8 in its current state...and as Relic has been working a lot with the community before to fix stuff in CoH2 I do think DoW3 has good future, plus the game seems to run way better than CoH2 or DoW2...thank god.

What worries me the most and lends credibility to all the criticism is
View video on youtube.com

I cant stand people like TotalBiscuit or angryjoeshow nowdays as they arent what they where before...I dont like them for different reasons TotalBiscuit is horrible gamer and his opinions are just all over the place and his part of this stupid "pc master race shit" same goes with angryjoes (more or less) but what makes it worse with angryjoe is that his has become complete sellout and really lazy.

Regardless of your opinion of him, in that video he does point out all that you also point out, the difference is that he also points out the bad, not just what you care about, and you have to accept that.

well if u have check out some of my comments I have said that there are bad things but they aren't really THAT bad...
like some features were postponed and didn't arrive day one (leaderboards/ranked MP) and only one game mode and minimum MP maps (but at least mods are supported, so its not as big of a problem)...and then that there was only 3 faction was litle bit disappointing but what I do like is that

Spoiler, click me

necrons and chaos and maybe imperial guards

will be the next faction ...I just wonder how/when they will arrive.


otherwise the core gameplay seems great...some issues maybe here and there but they can be fixed...but I think Relic also need some community feedback that how....and about the games "mechanical issues" the opinions are all over the place and everybody cant be right... and I really want to keep out of that topic until the game has matured little bit and there has been more "testing"..why because some are just balancing issues and we have to see if they are issues that can be fixed easily or are they really broken by design

and there are some other nitpicks like graphics settings option aren't that great either, really basic...

Have you even watched the whole 50m of that video? He generally agrees with you, it has potential, but the gameplay is more limiting, lacks content and the single player experience is a glorified tutorial instead of a proper campaign when compared to dow2 and coh2 and there lies the issue. It feels very much like a rushed release. He never said don't get it, he said wait for it to be fixed, either by the community or the developers.

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Quoting: zimplex1I hope it comes to Linux, but this looks like the worst Dawn of War game ever so I won't let this atrocity touch my hard drive.

if you are talking about those over negative comments/reviews on metacritc or steam, you have to keep in mind that this happen to DoW2 also because it was so different from DoW1 and CoH2 got A LOT of negative reviews in metacritic from russians

anyway most of the negative comments have been that its not the DoW1 or DoW 2 remake what they wanted...and/or because it has some MOBA, Starcraft and Warcraft 3 elements and that means it's exactly like those games gameplay style...with that logic DoW2 is way more MOBA than DoW3.

what DoW3 really is, it's a combination of the previous games and with some borrowed elements of other games to enhance experiense, some will like them or not...you can't please everyone.

another negative comment has been about the graphics that they are too "cartoony" and the animation aren't that great..
I personally don't really see this, okay maybe some areas of the maps...maybe little bit.
What Relic wanted to make DoW3 to look more closer to the table-top's figurines...thats why it's more colorful and that doesn't make it cartoony. DoW2 (and 1) was also "cartoony" just more darker...also if u check 40k art style there is some that are really colorful and some are darker, if you prefer the darker style that's fine, it doesn't make this any more wrong/bad.

anyway, is this game perfect? oh god NO but the core elements are good, the only problem I have with it is that there is only 3 factions and little bit to few MP maps and 1 game mode.

some of these things were postponed and will arrive later (unfortunately), but the biggest question is that how (and when) will these arrive....the good thing is that there is MOD support and there is already few maps made, and at least on CoH2 Relic did add the most popular ones to the game

so I would give this game a 7 or 8 in its current state...and as Relic has been working a lot with the community before to fix stuff in CoH2 I do think DoW3 has good future, plus the game seems to run way better than CoH2 or DoW2...thank god.

What worries me the most and lends credibility to all the criticism is
View video on youtube.com

I cant stand people like TotalBiscuit or angryjoeshow nowdays as they arent what they where before...I dont like them for different reasons TotalBiscuit is horrible gamer and his opinions are just all over the place and his part of this stupid "pc master race shit" same goes with angryjoes (more or less) but what makes it worse with angryjoe is that his has become complete sellout and really lazy.

Regardless of your opinion of him, in that video he does point out all that you also point out, the difference is that he also points out the bad, not just what you care about, and you have to accept that.

well if u have check out some of my comments I have said that there are bad things but they aren't really THAT bad...
like some features were postponed and didn't arrive day one (leaderboards/ranked MP) and only one game mode and minimum MP maps (but at least mods are supported, so its not as big of a problem)...and then that there was only 3 faction was litle bit disappointing but what I do like is that

Spoiler, click me

necrons and chaos and maybe imperial guards

will be the next faction ...I just wonder how/when they will arrive.


otherwise the core gameplay seems great...some issues maybe here and there but they can be fixed...but I think Relic also need some community feedback that how....and about the games "mechanical issues" the opinions are all over the place and everybody cant be right... and I really want to keep out of that topic until the game has matured little bit and there has been more "testing"..why because some are just balancing issues and we have to see if they are issues that can be fixed easily or are they really broken by design

and there are some other nitpicks like graphics settings option aren't that great either, really basic...

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Quoting: LinuxwarperAs for the "most official" part, I find it harder to find more official than a release announcement, but perhaps you were referring to the way of getting it on ubuntu?

What you said in bold. Please excuse me if this is a stupid question but why are they building Mesa 17.1 when latest stable release is 17.0.5? Shouldn't they work to build 17.0.5 instead?

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Quoting: ahjolinnaI cant stand people like TotalBiscuit or angryjoeshow nowdays as they arent what they where before...I dont like them for different reasons TotalBiscuit is horrible gamer and his opinions are just all over the place and his part of this stupid "pc master race shit" same goes with angryjoes (more or less) but what makes it worse with angryjoe is that his has become complete sellout and really lazy.

Well, tough shait mate. TotalBiscuit never claimed to be a great gamer; he is a a video games critic for all intents and purposes. Hack, it sounds like one needs to be a outstanding footballer to commentate football matches; are you insane or what?

Are you aware that TotalBiscuit is one of the alpha testers of DoW1 to ensure the balance when there was no early access bullocks going on. He lifted his SEGA boykott most probably for the sake of covering DoW3.

Angry Joe? I stopped following him years ago for the health of my ears and sanity...

DoW3 eleminates any possibility of creative strategy by forcing giant mecha elites and base turrets. Thanks to those and early game unit refunds, turtling works pretty well. However I believe there is still hope for DoW3; Steam workshop seems to allow fan made turretless maps. Moreover, as DoW2: Retribution turned out to be the best in DoW2 series, I put my faith to Relic's wisdom.

well the turretless maps are really bad idea, they are there for a reason as the whole idea is to stop the game rushing
...also that you say that TotalBiscuit helped DoW1 balancing...doesnt say anything as its really broken anyways the mod community had to fix it


also this is the same person who liked ME : andromeda and no man sky ...and those both where horrible shit..and flopped so badly..oh and he hated starcraft2 also (if I remember correctly)...and he is one of the most Hypocritical & egotistical (Amateur) reviewers.

and saying that he lifted his SEGA boycott just to reviews this game doesn't make the situation any better ...it makes it way worse..why? try to figure out for yourself at times.

btw. dow3 lacks creative strategy ? not what I have seen, its just way different from DoW1 or 2...many have done intresting comebacks and other fun strategy. just go watch some PRO rts gamers streams that have played DoW3 MP for a while and you should see.

its funny that u said that "DoW2: Retribution turned out to be the best in DoW2 series" when its the most hated expansion of DoW2...many think that it made DoW2 to MOBA like and broke balancing....yes this same issue..I dont think this but it was really common hate for that expansion.

anyway I like all of those 3 DoW games and some other RTS (more or less) but all of them have problems...and many HUGE ones when they arrived, this isn't just DoW3 problem...people just seem to live in their nostalgia bubble and forgot how much problems those games had (and still have) and what features have been missing day1 (I mean every RTS game not just DoW series)

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Quoting: LinuxwarperI used following article to use a Mesa PPA that was more official, and was wondering if it's being maintained or not?

Well, just looking at the PPA, there is a mesa 17.1 release candidate that has been uploaded three days ago.

As for the "most official" part, I find it harder to find more official than a release announcement, but perhaps you were referring to the way of getting it on ubuntu?

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Quoting: zimplex1I hope it comes to Linux, but this looks like the worst Dawn of War game ever so I won't let this atrocity touch my hard drive.

if you are talking about those over negative comments/reviews on metacritc or steam, you have to keep in mind that this happen to DoW2 also because it was so different from DoW1 and CoH2 got A LOT of negative reviews in metacritic from russians

anyway most of the negative comments have been that its not the DoW1 or DoW 2 remake what they wanted...and/or because it has some MOBA, Starcraft and Warcraft 3 elements and that means it's exactly like those games gameplay style...with that logic DoW2 is way more MOBA than DoW3.

what DoW3 really is, it's a combination of the previous games and with some borrowed elements of other games to enhance experiense, some will like them or not...you can't please everyone.

another negative comment has been about the graphics that they are too "cartoony" and the animation aren't that great..
I personally don't really see this, okay maybe some areas of the maps...maybe little bit.
What Relic wanted to make DoW3 to look more closer to the table-top's figurines...thats why it's more colorful and that doesn't make it cartoony. DoW2 (and 1) was also "cartoony" just more darker...also if u check 40k art style there is some that are really colorful and some are darker, if you prefer the darker style that's fine, it doesn't make this any more wrong/bad.

anyway, is this game perfect? oh god NO but the core elements are good, the only problem I have with it is that there is only 3 factions and little bit to few MP maps and 1 game mode.

some of these things were postponed and will arrive later (unfortunately), but the biggest question is that how (and when) will these arrive....the good thing is that there is MOD support and there is already few maps made, and at least on CoH2 Relic did add the most popular ones to the game

so I would give this game a 7 or 8 in its current state...and as Relic has been working a lot with the community before to fix stuff in CoH2 I do think DoW3 has good future, plus the game seems to run way better than CoH2 or DoW2...thank god.

What worries me the most and lends credibility to all the criticism is
View video on youtube.com

I cant stand people like TotalBiscuit or angryjoeshow nowdays as they arent what they where before...I dont like them for different reasons TotalBiscuit is horrible gamer and his opinions are just all over the place and his part of this stupid "pc master race shit" same goes with angryjoes (more or less) but what makes it worse with angryjoe is that his has become complete sellout and really lazy.

Regardless of your opinion of him, in that video he does point out all that you also point out, the difference is that he also points out the bad, not just what you care about, and you have to accept that.

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Quoting: ahjolinnaI cant stand people like TotalBiscuit or angryjoeshow nowdays as they arent what they where before...I dont like them for different reasons TotalBiscuit is horrible gamer and his opinions are just all over the place and his part of this stupid "pc master race shit" same goes with angryjoes (more or less) but what makes it worse with angryjoe is that his has become complete sellout and really lazy.

Well, tough shait mate. TotalBiscuit never claimed to be a great gamer; he is a a video games critic for all intents and purposes. Hack, it sounds like one needs to be a outstanding footballer to commentate football matches; are you insane or what?

Are you aware that TotalBiscuit is one of the alpha testers of DoW1 to ensure the balance when there was no early access bullocks going on. He lifted his SEGA boykott most probably for the sake of covering DoW3.

Angry Joe? I stopped following him years ago for the health of my ears and sanity...

DoW3 eleminates any possibility of creative strategy by forcing giant mecha elites and base turrets. Thanks to those and early game unit refunds, turtling works pretty well. However I believe there is still hope for DoW3; Steam workshop seems to allow fan made turretless maps. Moreover, as DoW2: Retribution turned out to be the best in DoW2 series, I put my faith to Relic's wisdom.

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I'm not buying it as long there are no DLCs on GOG.

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I like to say for those who think that those "mixed reviews" are actually worrisome and they matter...they do not...not yet at least. Plus I like to remind that even Deus ex mankind divided has mixed overall reviews and recent reviews are now Mostly Positive

and CoH2 had horrible user review score on metacritc and it's still popular and got a linux/mac port

so those reviews don't matter...like they shouldn't..but if the community wouldnt be so bitchy maybe more new types of gamers would be intrested in these games...but that is the biggest horror for the snobbish community

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I used following article to use a Mesa PPA that was more official, and was wondering if it's being maintained or not?

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Quoting: JudasIscariotYou can actually use winetricks as Austin English implemented the ability to turn CSMT off and on in the registry.

OK, that's cool. I didn't realize winetricks provides UI for those settings. Thanks for pointing it out!

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nice graphics simple object based map. no rush mechanics.
much more point to point combat focused game play.
this makes that kind of rts games more play able instead of macro combo fight games. just like SC2 AOE and bla bla.

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Quoting: mrdeathjrIn other things donat enikeev csmt patch is rejected (this patch add csmt option to graphics tab in wine cfg, usefull if user dont know much about registry)

^_^

You can actually use winetricks as Austin English implemented the ability to turn CSMT off and on in the registry. Here's the initial commit: https://github.com/Winetricks/winetricks/commit/3f50cf9e6b142b1ed31739f7b7f14bfd07ce7ae0 and the follow-up commit to correct a bug within the initial commit: https://github.com/Winetricks/winetricks/commit/35eb15ff45656165dff5e9e173ec5d162144ee2c

Here's how the CSMT on/off setting looks in winetricks:

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Quoting: ahjolinnaDoW 2 and CoH2 where both MP first SP second...and thats why the singleplayer was the most boring thing ever on those games, thats why most people spent playing MP most of the time on those games not SP, this why Relic decided to make more "story driven" single player that was also huge prep/tutorial for multiplayer. ...this goes for other RTS games also (more or less)

and just because DoW3 gameplay style is combination of both previous titles doesn't make it "dumbed down" ...people said the same thing about DoW2/CoH2 when it come...

its also funny how so many keeps saying that how this faction is OP or to weak...when it just comes down that every faction plays differently and they just dont know how to play them.
only thing I have notice that the the elite units could use some balancing...
but then again balancing issues are always expected when game arrives...omg if this would be some EA or ubisoft game...the balancing would be none existing and other ridiculous day 1 problems.

I really don't get how this game gets so much hate ...is this really a game that should get 0/10 ? plz?!
I can get 5/10 if you are really disappointed...but those who say that its lower than that really dont know what a bad game is...plus 0/10 should mean that its (technically) broken and doesn't work aka you cant play it on your system.

but this is just irrational hate which is so normal on internet nowdays...and they are usually the most vocal about their opinion, and those who like it dont really like to bother to say anything
+people should just stop trusting any reviewer

The simple fact that DoW 3's campaign is just a glorified tutorial for multiplayer turns me off entirely. DoW 1 AND 2 were both tailored for a good singleplayer experiences with multiplayer tacked on for extra fun/value (although DoW2 multiplayer sucked). Without the singleplayer focus, and the dumbed/simplified mechanics this game sits at a 3/10 for me which makes it not worth buying.
I think the reason people hate it so much is because you have a group that loves DoW1, a group that loves DoW2, and DoW3 doesn't please either group. This is a simple case of a developer trying and failing to please everybody. They should have either made the game similar to DoW1 or DoW2 instead of both, because now DoW3 is just filled with the watered down mechanics of both of the previous games. It also probably doesn't help that they made a piss-poor campaign which is actually just a tutorial for the most part.

well whatever you think about the SP or MP quality on those games most people put most of their time on the MP side (stats don't lie) ..and DoW2/CoH2 was made as MP game you like it or not.

anyway you said that because they tried to make "hybrid of DoW 1 and 2" because they tried to please everybody and thats why it failed ...well...
if they made DoW 1/2 remake/sequel that the those fans wanted...that would have just angered either fanbases...and then there would be the people would say that there is no innovation and its boring because its same old. so from Relic/Sega point of view they couldn't win...only real option was to move on and try make something new('ish) and listen to the market instead and try to "grab new players"

also 3/10? plz?! ....you should really play more different games if you give 3/10 that easily.


but I think most of this hate comes from that you want a SP focused game...so if you are look for a SP RTS game then this was never for you...like DoW/CoH2...sorry.

and also The campaign is good and can be very challenging on hard the races and units make up a lot of tactics...yes its on the short side...but then again most people DONT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT SP...thats why more "story driven" version


last thing I would stop looking as a DoW 1/2 hybrid and just start to look for what it is...DoW 3....why?
because saying those thing is just simplifying things instead of treating it as its own thing..
and what it has become is really solid RTS that has actual depth in its own way, its just that many dont want to see them or just too caught on what they liked on DoW 1/2 mechanics...so that why its hard to look outside of that box

maybe I'm rationalising/defending this too much...perhaps...but I know at least that its not as bad what most people write in they "hate reviews" ...and I find it sad that people do this and then let actual bad AAA games way easier

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Quoting: ahjolinnaDoW 2 and CoH2 where both MP first SP second...and thats why the singleplayer was the most boring thing ever on those games, thats why most people spent playing MP most of the time on those games not SP, this why Relic decided to make more "story driven" single player that was also huge prep/tutorial for multiplayer. ...this goes for other RTS games also (more or less)

and just because DoW3 gameplay style is combination of both previous titles doesn't make it "dumbed down" ...people said the same thing about DoW2/CoH2 when it come...

its also funny how so many keeps saying that how this faction is OP or to weak...when it just comes down that every faction plays differently and they just dont know how to play them.
only thing I have notice that the the elite units could use some balancing...
but then again balancing issues are always expected when game arrives...omg if this would be some EA or ubisoft game...the balancing would be none existing and other ridiculous day 1 problems.

I really don't get how this game gets so much hate ...is this really a game that should get 0/10 ? plz?!
I can get 5/10 if you are really disappointed...but those who say that its lower than that really dont know what a bad game is...plus 0/10 should mean that its (technically) broken and doesn't work aka you cant play it on your system.

but this is just irrational hate which is so normal on internet nowdays...and they are usually the most vocal about their opinion, and those who like it dont really like to bother to say anything
+people should just stop trusting any reviewer

The simple fact that DoW 3's campaign is just a glorified tutorial for multiplayer turns me off entirely. DoW 1 AND 2 were both tailored for a good singleplayer experiences with multiplayer tacked on for extra fun/value (although DoW2 multiplayer sucked). Without the singleplayer focus, and the dumbed/simplified mechanics this game sits at a 3/10 for me which makes it not worth buying.
I think the reason people hate it so much is because you have a group that loves DoW1, a group that loves DoW2, and DoW3 doesn't please either group. This is a simple case of a developer trying and failing to please everybody. They should have either made the game similar to DoW1 or DoW2 instead of both, because now DoW3 is just filled with the watered down mechanics of both of the previous games. It also probably doesn't help that they made a piss-poor campaign which is actually just a tutorial for the most part.

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Quoting: Whitewolfe80I am not confused nor do i care like i said i know exactly how it works and what is function is. However getting pissy and headstrong about whether or not its referred to as an emulator really really is not important. What matters is it works to some extent depending on the program and it's free. Again first time joining a linux community after sys admining linux for six years and its same old same old way way to many people salty about meaningless shit.

Wow, there is an interesting conversation and discussion about WINE, the information behind and corrections. But the only thing is that you misinterpret the communication as pissy and headstrong? That's really far away from the concurrent road: But with one thing you are right ... the normal way of "internet-communication", instead of accepting different positions including corrections on the own position and information, the talk goes only about the own position, because there is no possibility of having just globalized information without more details and questions or corrections are always meant as an attack ... of course. Yes, indeed ... normal ways these days.

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Quoting: ahjolinnaif you are talking about those over negative comments/reviews on metacritc or steam, you have to keep in mind that this happen to DoW2 also because it was so different from DoW1 and CoH2 got A LOT of negative reviews in metacritic from russians

anyway most of the negative comments have been that its not the DoW1 or DoW 2 remake what they wanted...and/or because it has some MOBA, Starcraft and Warcraft 3 elements and that means it's exactly like those games gameplay style...with that logic DoW2 is way more MOBA than DoW3.

what DoW3 really is, it's a combination of the previous games and with some borrowed elements of other games to enhance experiense, some will like them or not...you can't please everyone.

another negative comment has been about the graphics that they are too "cartoony" and the animation aren't that great..
I personally don't really see this, okay maybe some areas of the maps...maybe little bit.
What Relic wanted to make DoW3 to look more closer to the table-top's figurines...thats why it's more colorful and that doesn't make it cartoony. DoW2 (and 1) was also "cartoony" just more darker...also if u check 40k art style there is some that are really colorful and some are darker, if you prefer the darker style that's fine, it doesn't make this any more wrong/bad.

anyway, is this game perfect? oh god NO but the core elements are good, the only problem I have with it is that there is only 3 factions and little bit to few MP maps and 1 game mode.

some of these things were postponed and will arrive later (unfortunately), but the biggest question is that how (and when) will these arrive....the good thing is that there is MOD support and there is already few maps made, and at least on CoH2 Relic did add the most popular ones to the game

so I would give this game a 7 or 8 in its current state...and as Relic has been working a lot with the community before to fix stuff in CoH2 I do think DoW3 has good future, plus the game seems to run way better than CoH2 or DoW2...thank god.

I'm very aware of what this game is and isn't. It's just from all of the things I've seen on this game I personally wouldn't enjoy it like I did with the previous 2 games. The biggest detractors for me is the major focus on multiplayer, it's watered down/boring singleplayer campaign, it's dumbed down, and it doesn't play like DoW 1 or 2. I personally think smashing together elements from the previous games to make the DoW 3 was a mistake; it's like a middle road with nothing great of its own to experience. Anyways, that's just my personal thoughts on the matter.

DoW 2 and CoH2 where both MP first SP second...and thats why the singleplayer was the most boring thing ever on those games, thats why most people spent playing MP most of the time on those games not SP, this why Relic decided to make more "story driven" single player that was also huge prep/tutorial for multiplayer. ...this goes for other RTS games also (more or less)

and just because DoW3 gameplay style is combination of both previous titles doesn't make it "dumbed down" ...people said the same thing about DoW2/CoH2 when it come...

its also funny how so many keeps saying that how this faction is OP or to weak...when it just comes down that every faction plays differently and they just dont know how to play them.
only thing I have notice that the the elite units could use some balancing...
but then again balancing issues are always expected when game arrives...omg if this would be some EA or ubisoft game...the balancing would be none existing and other ridiculous day 1 problems.

I really don't get how this game gets so much hate ...is this really a game that should get 0/10 ? plz?!
I can get 5/10 if you are really disappointed...but those who say that its lower than that really dont know what a bad game is...plus 0/10 should mean that its (technically) broken and doesn't work aka you cant play it on your system.

but this is just irrational hate which is so normal on internet nowdays...and they are usually the most vocal about their opinion, and those who like it dont really like to bother to say anything
+people should just stop trusting any reviewer

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instabuy for me, i own every DoW rts game, i just need this one

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@feral go forth! There is a 100% sure buyer here :)

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Quoting: SpiteSo many "if it comes out it's insta buy" comments and they are worrisome to me. I mean I understand that you guys want to support linux as a gaming platform and developers who port their games to it but this kind of mindset is a little stupid. I mean, that's how preorder culture came to be.


We should not buy crap games or crap ports just because devs decided to release on linux. I'm not saying that it will be either of these 2 things, I just wanted to put it out there

I completly <3 DoW1 (and also WH40k, tabletop'ed as a kid) so immediately this has raised my interest.
I own all the DoW1 expansions and it is a great RTS game but ... no linux

I bought DoW2 (and was the last thing I dual-booted for) and was extremely disappointed... The single player camp was a great story but it was no more a classic RTS & more a MOBA ... The lack of building killed it for me.

I good mate of mine is still well into these games and beta's them all and he insisted DoW2 brought back aspects of classic RTS when they brought in the IG expansion (would make sense.. they are designed to hold a line... how can you hold a line without forming a line). He is presently playing DoW3 and is liking it. So between DoW3 possibly coming to linux I get to hear from him

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would totally love to play it on Linux . If it is going to happen I have my fingers crossed it works on my PC this time - I hadn't much luck with DoW2 (and it is not that my hardware specs are too low - but it seems I have quite spotty luck when it comes to my dual xeon workstation and Feral ports, they either work beautifully or not at all - DoW2 gets stuck upon mission start, without any error messages).

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Quoting: ahjolinna

Quoting: zimplex1I hope it comes to Linux, but this looks like the worst Dawn of War game ever so I won't let this atrocity touch my hard drive.

if you are talking about those over negative comments/reviews on metacritc or steam, you have to keep in mind that this happen to DoW2 also because it was so different from DoW1 and CoH2 got A LOT of negative reviews in metacritic from russians

anyway most of the negative comments have been that its not the DoW1 or DoW 2 remake what they wanted...and/or because it has some MOBA, Starcraft and Warcraft 3 elements and that means it's exactly like those games gameplay style...with that logic DoW2 is way more MOBA than DoW3.

what DoW3 really is, it's a combination of the previous games and with some borrowed elements of other games to enhance experiense, some will like them or not...you can't please everyone.

another negative comment has been about the graphics that they are too "cartoony" and the animation aren't that great..
I personally don't really see this, okay maybe some areas of the maps...maybe little bit.
What Relic wanted to make DoW3 to look more closer to the table-top's figurines...thats why it's more colorful and that doesn't make it cartoony. DoW2 (and 1) was also "cartoony" just more darker...also if u check 40k art style there is some that are really colorful and some are darker, if you prefer the darker style that's fine, it doesn't make this any more wrong/bad.

anyway, is this game perfect? oh god NO but the core elements are good, the only problem I have with it is that there is only 3 factions and little bit to few MP maps and 1 game mode.

some of these things were postponed and will arrive later (unfortunately), but the biggest question is that how (and when) will these arrive....the good thing is that there is MOD support and there is already few maps made, and at least on CoH2 Relic did add the most popular ones to the game

so I would give this game a 7 or 8 in its current state...and as Relic has been working a lot with the community before to fix stuff in CoH2 I do think DoW3 has good future, plus the game seems to run way better than CoH2 or DoW2...thank god.

What worries me the most and lends credibility to all the criticism is
View video on youtube.com

I cant stand people like TotalBiscuit or angryjoeshow nowdays as they arent what they where before...I dont like them for different reasons TotalBiscuit is horrible gamer and his opinions are just all over the place and his part of this stupid "pc master race shit" same goes with angryjoes (more or less) but what makes it worse with angryjoe is that his has become complete sellout and really lazy.

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Quoting: SpiteSo many "if it comes out it's insta buy" comments and they are worrisome to me. I mean I understand that you guys want to support linux as a gaming platform and developers who port their games to it but this kind of mindset is a little stupid. I mean, that's how preorder culture came to be.

We should not buy crap games or crap ports just because devs decided to release on linux. I'm not saying that it will be either of these 2 things, I just wanted to put it out there

What on earth are you on about. The pre-order mindset and buying it if it comes to Linux are two entirely different things. One is buying something that doesn't exist, the other is people specifically waiting to buy it and waiting for it on their choice platform.

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Quoting: ahjolinnaif you are talking about those over negative comments/reviews on metacritc or steam, you have to keep in mind that this happen to DoW2 also because it was so different from DoW1 and CoH2 got A LOT of negative reviews in metacritic from russians

anyway most of the negative comments have been that its not the DoW1 or DoW 2 remake what they wanted...and/or because it has some MOBA, Starcraft and Warcraft 3 elements and that means it's exactly like those games gameplay style...with that logic DoW2 is way more MOBA than DoW3.

what DoW3 really is, it's a combination of the previous games and with some borrowed elements of other games to enhance experiense, some will like them or not...you can't please everyone.

another negative comment has been about the graphics that they are too "cartoony" and the animation aren't that great..
I personally don't really see this, okay maybe some areas of the maps...maybe little bit.
What Relic wanted to make DoW3 to look more closer to the table-top's figurines...thats why it's more colorful and that doesn't make it cartoony. DoW2 (and 1) was also "cartoony" just more darker...also if u check 40k art style there is some that are really colorful and some are darker, if you prefer the darker style that's fine, it doesn't make this any more wrong/bad.

anyway, is this game perfect? oh god NO but the core elements are good, the only problem I have with it is that there is only 3 factions and little bit to few MP maps and 1 game mode.

some of these things were postponed and will arrive later (unfortunately), but the biggest question is that how (and when) will these arrive....the good thing is that there is MOD support and there is already few maps made, and at least on CoH2 Relic did add the most popular ones to the game

so I would give this game a 7 or 8 in its current state...and as Relic has been working a lot with the community before to fix stuff in CoH2 I do think DoW3 has good future, plus the game seems to run way better than CoH2 or DoW2...thank god.

I'm very aware of what this game is and isn't. It's just from all of the things I've seen on this game I personally wouldn't enjoy it like I did with the previous 2 games. The biggest detractors for me is the major focus on multiplayer, it's watered down/boring singleplayer campaign, it's dumbed down, and it doesn't play like DoW 1 or 2. I personally think smashing together elements from the previous games to make the DoW 3 was a mistake; it's like a middle road with nothing great of its own to experience. Anyways, that's just my personal thoughts on the matter.

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Quoting: m0nt3

Quoting: ahjolinna

Quoting: m0nt3Meh. Was really hoping for something different.

really? the main problem with DoW3 has been that it's so different ...aka its not the "DoW1 or DoW2 remake" that the fan group wanted, but we got "yet" another new RTS gameplay style which is really just a mix of both + some borrowed elements of other games.

I have never played a Total War or Dawn of War game. Just don't really have an interest. It seems we have been getting a lot of these games/genre lately. Still hoping to see shadow of war or rise of the tomb raider.

fair enough you dont care/like about RTS, but you have to keep in mind that RTS and mmo(rpg/fps) are popular on PC when those games you mentioned are more popular on consoles than on PC...I do also like to see other games, like I would love to see NieR : Automata on linux...I already have it on my PS4pro..and I love it :D

I want to see more RPG's. Would love to see Final Fantasy get a port. I have been playing through the Baldurs Gate Games. Loved PoE and Tyranny. I am really hoping for a Nier port as well. Waiting on the Victor Vran DLC as well. I don't mind RTS, just not the biggest fan.

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Quoting: ahjolinna

Quoting: zimplex1I hope it comes to Linux, but this looks like the worst Dawn of War game ever so I won't let this atrocity touch my hard drive.

if you are talking about those over negative comments/reviews on metacritc or steam, you have to keep in mind that this happen to DoW2 also because it was so different from DoW1 and CoH2 got A LOT of negative reviews in metacritic from russians

anyway most of the negative comments have been that its not the DoW1 or DoW 2 remake what they wanted...and/or because it has some MOBA, Starcraft and Warcraft 3 elements and that means it's exactly like those games gameplay style...with that logic DoW2 is way more MOBA than DoW3.

what DoW3 really is, it's a combination of the previous games and with some borrowed elements of other games to enhance experiense, some will like them or not...you can't please everyone.

another negative comment has been about the graphics that they are too "cartoony" and the animation aren't that great..
I personally don't really see this, okay maybe some areas of the maps...maybe little bit.
What Relic wanted to make DoW3 to look more closer to the table-top's figurines...thats why it's more colorful and that doesn't make it cartoony. DoW2 (and 1) was also "cartoony" just more darker...also if u check 40k art style there is some that are really colorful and some are darker, if you prefer the darker style that's fine, it doesn't make this any more wrong/bad.

anyway, is this game perfect? oh god NO but the core elements are good, the only problem I have with it is that there is only 3 factions and little bit to few MP maps and 1 game mode.

some of these things were postponed and will arrive later (unfortunately), but the biggest question is that how (and when) will these arrive....the good thing is that there is MOD support and there is already few maps made, and at least on CoH2 Relic did add the most popular ones to the game

so I would give this game a 7 or 8 in its current state...and as Relic has been working a lot with the community before to fix stuff in CoH2 I do think DoW3 has good future, plus the game seems to run way better than CoH2 or DoW2...thank god.

What worries me the most and lends credibility to all the criticism is
View video on youtube.com

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Quoting: SpiteSo many "if it comes out it's insta buy" comments and they are worrisome to me. I mean I understand that you guys want to support linux as a gaming platform and developers who port their games to it but this kind of mindset is a little stupid. I mean, that's how preorder culture came to be.


We should not buy crap games or crap ports just because devs decided to release on linux. I'm not saying that it will be either of these 2 things, I just wanted to put it out there

I agree that buying a game just because it has linux support is stupid, but if its something that you want to try/play then its fine...and if it performs badly then you can always refund it ..at least if its really bad port...
or/and just wait for some port/performance reports (if there are any of that game).

but even good ports can have problems on your system....so people have to remember to report their problems also not just bitch about it.

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So many "if it comes out it's insta buy" comments and they are worrisome to me. I mean I understand that you guys want to support linux as a gaming platform and developers who port their games to it but this kind of mindset is a little stupid. I mean, that's how preorder culture came to be.


We should not buy crap games or crap ports just because devs decided to release on linux. I'm not saying that it will be either of these 2 things, I just wanted to put it out there

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Quoting: m0nt3

Quoting: ahjolinna

Quoting: m0nt3Meh. Was really hoping for something different.

really? the main problem with DoW3 has been that it's so different ...aka its not the "DoW1 or DoW2 remake" that the fan group wanted, but we got "yet" another new RTS gameplay style which is really just a mix of both + some borrowed elements of other games.

I have never played a Total War or Dawn of War game. Just don't really have an interest. It seems we have been getting a lot of these games/genre lately. Still hoping to see shadow of war or rise of the tomb raider.

fair enough you dont care/like about RTS, but you have to keep in mind that RTS and mmo(rpg/fps) are popular on PC when those games you mentioned are more popular on consoles than on PC...I do also like to see other games, like I would love to see NieR : Automata on linux...I already have it on my PS4pro..and I love it :D

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Quoting: ahjolinna

Quoting: m0nt3Meh. Was really hoping for something different.

really? the main problem with DoW3 has been that it's so different ...aka its not the "DoW1 or DoW2 remake" that the fan group wanted, but we got "yet" another new RTS gameplay style which is really just a mix of both + some borrowed elements of other games.

I have never played a Total War or Dawn of War game. Just don't really have an interest. It seems we have been getting a lot of these games/genre lately. Still hoping to see shadow of war or rise of the tomb raider.

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