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Quoting: GuestHow exactly did they build it for Linux without a Linux machine to compile it on? I'm confused by that. Seems like if it was wine wrapped (i dont know if it is) they would still need Linux to make it, or could it be possible to do that on a Mac?

I know its probably a stupid question but I don't know much about the process of porting.

You could easily set up a Linux cross compiler on Windows (okay, not that easily, but it's certainly doable, just look at the CLFS book), but in this case not even that is required, as the game is afaik using the Unity Engine.
Unity games consist of an engine binary together with (more or less) platform independent game code (C# or JavaScript - either way it's compiled to bytecode CIL-code and then run by a Java-VM Common Language Runtime - in this case, Mono.
So, in principle, all the developer has to do is to click "Build" in the Unity Editor and select Linux as target platform. That would be the ideal case of course, and in reality there will very likely be issues, as often some platform specific things sneak into the code if one does not regularly test on all target platforms...

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I'm loving this game. I haven't finished it yet, but I'm likely around 3/4 of the way through. Really really great point & click that not only pays homage to LucasArts classics, but is also as good, if not better, than a lot of them.

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I still don't have their previous DLC. £7 for four new characters is a bit expensive for me.

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That's a great number!
Maybe there's some... special intersection between retro loves and Linux users...?

If you're into point and click the slightest, do get this game. I had wondered if verb choice is still ok - now I wonder how anything else could be ok. :-)

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i can recommend this hard but fun moba

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Quoting: Comandante ÑoñardoAbout Galaxy on Linux, We don't actually need it... Is a form of DRM under disguise.

That doesn't make sense. They are still offering their games to download from GOG DRM free. Why would they add DRM to their GOG Galaxy client when it's optional, and not all people use it? A publisher who wanted DRM wouldn't get behind that.

While I prefer to buy my games DRM free, I'm not opposed to the optional DRM that Steam has.

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Quoting: dubigrasuDefinitely an improvement, disabling GLSL hadn't much effect, but removing the cap did worked.

Disabling GLSL felt like it helped a bit here, although it was subtle enough that I kept having to go back & forth to compare so I could've been imagining it :p Quite a big difference between GOG's hack being enabled/disabled though.

In other news, I've released a big update for my Wine wrapper. I added support for the Gentlemen of the Row mod and converted GotR's .bat file installer into a Bash script for easier integration, with GUI menus using Zenity :) When used with my wrapper it can automatically install the mod too so it's immediately ready to play, no need to move files about when it's done.

The GotR script is available separately for use with the Steam version & works much like the original when used that way.

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Quoting: GuestHow exactly did they build it for Linux without a Linux machine to compile it on? I'm confused by that. Seems like if it was wine wrapped (i dont know if it is) they would still need Linux to make it, or could it be possible to do that on a Mac?

I know its probably a stupid question but I don't know much about the process of porting.

Could be the game engine can generate a game binary on Win/Mac/Linux.
Not 100% sure on that , but I know GameMaker can compile the project to anything from Windows to Android and HTML5.
Guessing something similar for their engine.

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"We'll set up Linux as a dual boot....."

I'm really happy to see developers such as these, maybe I'm getting the wrong impression here but they might not be very familiar with Linux and yet they're still trying. Either way, these guys have my respect.

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They didn't even have a linux box to test until now ?
I don't mean to be an ass but if you want to deliver a product to a platform wouldn't you test it before rather than keeping your fingers crossed the engine does its thing , hit compile and then publish ?

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While it has been discussed to death that WINE is not an Emulator, I think part of the reason it's misinterpreted that way is because it lets you run games written for a different operating system, similar to a PSX/2 Emulator.

From an "appearance" point of view, it can be seen that way but the mechanics are different. To be honest it's not as easy to explain it to a non technical person, more often than not it always ends up "what are system calls?" or "doesn't an emulator work like that?"

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Quoting: Quenestil

This image is stupid.

Stupid it may be BUT the person in it actually believes those words.

On the contrary.

Good heavens, there are still people obsessing over her and how terrible she is and how she wants to ban all our gaaaaaaaaaaames!!!!!!!!! That's kinda creepy.

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Quoting: Jahimself

QuoteCan you elaborate on the dropped games? At least all those I bought are still there.

As for new games: I'd like to see more on GOG, too. Doesn't help much if the developers only support steam

I am thinking of metro 2033/last light. Dying Light. Wargame european escalation, airland battle. Grid autosport. Penumbra...

For the more "recent" like red dragon, limbo, serious sam series. Saint row series ...

The Linux version of all the Deepsilver games are Steam exclusives because the porting process were paid by Valve in an attempt to promote SteamOS... That's is why they are not available on GOG.
Don't blame CDPR for this, blame Deepsilver.

About Penumbra, I purchased them DRMFREE in 2012 at the Frictional site, including versions for Linux, Win and Mac...
If You want to buy the Linux version, support Frictional and buy it there...
If the Linux version is not available on GOG, that was a Frictional Games decision.

Again.
GOG is not and never was about Linux, it is about DRMFREE.

If a Linux version of whatever Windows game is not on GOG, blame the publisher.

About Galaxy on Linux, We don't actually need it... Is a form of DRM under disguise.

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I played it few years ago,but it quickly became stale with too few characters, while new ones were available only in paid DLCs. It will be fun at least to try out the new characters, though I don't know how much will I like the game this time around.

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This looks incredible, and I'll buy it when my checking account gets replenished.

Yes, EVERYTHING is on Linux

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Quoting: Whitewolfe80we can argue the technical terms but in laymen terms it emulates it

Thats exactly the problem, people think its an emulator because of all the confusion from people such as yourself, who say "it emulates" when in fact it doesn't.

In laymans terms, emulation and virtual enviroments are 2 completely different things.
Shall we call Windows, PC?

What's the problem, exactly? Wine isn't emulating windows directly, but it's emulating its system calls. It's such a irrelevant distinction, I can't see why people get upset over this. What does it actually matter?

Re-reading that paragraph I just wrote, I'm now worried that someone will smugly complain that it's not "emulating its system calls"... since technically it's replacing and redirecting those calls. And that's fine if it make any material difference to how you think about wine. I don't think it will.

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I helped test some initial Linux builds last week and found the time I spent with it to be some of the most personally resonant experiences I've ever had with a game. Everything has moved me in ways that few other games have.

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Well, at least they officially stated that they're working on it. It's better than not knowing that it's being worked on, which I just assumed before this statement.

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Ah! I'd been so busy with Amnesia Fortnight stuff that I didn't notice that got published.

There are some great responses provided by the interviewees. I think they all show slightly different perspectives on similar hurdles, which is super valuable to have!

Quoting: wintermute

QuoteHaving Linux support fall behind other platforms is a sad reality that I think Linux users need to be understanding of. If a game is already released on another platform, then I'd have more respect for a developer who gives priority to existing customers over customers they don't yet have - the opposite only suggests that we'll be treated poorly when we are finally supported!

Except in the case of Kickstarters we're all existing customers, so we're already being treated poorly.

I'm less comfortable with platform specific delays when affected users are already customers (or in the case of crowdfunded games, supporters). I think you make a valid point.

That said, sometimes it comes down to a developer making a decision to give a particular platform priority over others in exchange for upfront payment that lets them continue working on the game. As much as I don't like those kinds of arrangements, I'd rather see a Linux version delayed than a game not get finished.

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Quoting: Whitewolfe80emulating dx11

WINE is just a communication layer between DX and opengl. It doesn't "emulate" any thing.
Emulation is a reproduction (or mimic) of a system with newly written code.

we can argue the technical terms but in laymen terms it emulates it

WINE = Wine Is Not An Emulator.

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I really do hope it retains whatever players come from f2p, and as a plus, everyone that previously owned it will now have the chance to spend the points on those previously only DLC characters.

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Quoting: Power-Metal-GamesAnd when we hear from Feral what game is it exactly?

when the radar moves it into yellow rather than red

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Quoting: Guest

Quoting: Whitewolfe80emulating dx11

WINE is just a communication layer between DX and opengl. It doesn't "emulate" any thing.
Emulation is a reproduction (or mimic) of a system with newly written code.

we can argue the technical terms but in laymen terms it emulates it

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Quoting: Eike

Quoting: Quenestil

This image is stupid.

Stupid it may be BUT the person in it actually believes those words.

On the contrary.

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Quoting: Eike

Quoting: Quenestil

This image is stupid.

Stupid it may be BUT the person in it actually believes those words.

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Quoting: Leopard..

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Quoting: UltraVioletdoesn't seem to be a option to use a controller rather than the keyboard in the options menu [i might of been missing something] so i couldn't play it to its fullest

I started the game with my Steam Controller switched on and the game seemed to work just fine using it, despite there being no obvious option to select a controller.

no luck for me with a xbox 360 controller plugged in.

how much are steam controllers?

I payed like 46-47 euros for mine on a Steam sale if i recall. Don't remember if i payed shipping also or how much it was.

thanks for the info. i got some birthday money yesterday so i treated myself. looks a interesting controller

Hope you enjoy it.
Takes a bit of getting used to but I like it for Rocket League.

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Quoting: throghI find it interesting using a free system and then install some really closed-source packages going online like STEAM or other clients. Then of course just another bunch of Netflix and Spotify. Those things make the concurrent used Linux-distribution to nothing more than a unixoid copy of Windows! And afterwards speaking about things like freedom and GNU/Linux? Okay, really interesting definition. :D

So I'm not the only one seeing the irony of the regular championing a locked down, anti-consumer, DRMed service while supposedly wanting the freedom offered by GNU/Linux... ;) You've very clearly verbalized why I avoid Steam, their vendor lock-in freebies and their key resellers like the plague.

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