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Quoting: natewardawg

Quoting: Doc AngeloI wonder how many Linux gamers won't buy games with DRM?

This would be a nice bit to have on the GoL survey :)

I agree. Attitude to DRM is a good point to include in the survey.

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Quoting: Doc AngeloI wonder how many Linux gamers won't buy games with DRM?/

I expect percentage to be higher than among Windows users. People who reject DRM can use Linux itself for similar reasons.

Quoting: Doc AngeloNitpicking: Even those who would never buy a game with DRM can still buy games on Steam.

I don't, and many of those who avoid DRM also don't. Since buying on Steam proliferates DRM based approach.

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When it comes right down to it, all currently available methods of finding out overall game sales market share of Linux are pretty crappy.
But, this won't matter nearly as much if Linux desktop market share grows to a size where we don't have to obsess over tenths of a percent.

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Quoting: h54Is this a native port?

Most likely, yes

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Quoting: Seegras

Quoting: LeopardNetmarket Share statics is doesn't mean anything. They're all looking to Steam Survey and that is right thing to do. Not every user play games on Mac and Linux also even Windows.

I actually know casual gamers on Linux that refuse to use steam. They only buy software from humblebundle, gog, itch and so on.

If you look at that way , there are many (posssibly much more than Linux) Windows users who are pirating games or buying drm-free games. That is not a valid reasoning.

Also , are you sure that your friends are 'buying' drm-free games ; right?

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Is this a native port?

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Quoting: LeopardNetmarket Share statics is doesn't mean anything. They're all looking to Steam Survey and that is right thing to do. Not every user play games on Mac and Linux also even Windows.

I actually know casual gamers on Linux that refuse to use steam. They only buy software from humblebundle, gog, itch and so on.

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Quoting: Doc AngeloI wonder how many Linux gamers won't buy games with DRM?

This would be a nice bit to have on the GoL survey :)

Quoting: Doc AngeloNitpicking: Even those who would never buy a game with DRM can still buy games on Steam.

Very true, albeit more difficult in some cases since a person has to know beforehand if the game has DRM or not. Chances are if it's an indie game they're probably fine. :) I'm sure most of these people just go straight to GoG or HumbleBundle though since they don't need to research/worry if a game has DRM.

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Quoting: natis1You should make it so people can hold down to fire instead of clicking for two reasons:

1: It stops people from cheating by using autoclicker or Steam controller rapid fire.

2: It prevents RSI.

Seriously, my hand is really hurting right now.

or maybe put an limited ammo with respawn ammo points

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Quoting: natewardawgNot to mention it seems to me that Linux users tend to be more likely to buy DRM free games than those on Win or macOS, meaning they don't go to Steam at all, which would further skew the numbers.

I wonder how many Linux gamers won't buy games with DRM? I think it would be interesting to have a survey on this matter. Maybe there is survey already? Some Linux gamers would maybe prefer games without DRM, and some don't care about DRM within the proprietary game market.

Nitpicking: Even those who would never buy a game with DRM can still buy games on Steam.

Edit: Here is a survey with a good part of it about DRM and Linux gaming: http://boilingsteam.com/so-who-are-the-linux-gamers/

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Quoting: Guest

Quoting: Guest

Quoting: Tkelethomg NICE. I am currently dual-booting into Win7 almost exclusively for Mechwarrior Online which I haven't sufficiently tried to run in Linux... I've read about a few people managing to play it with certain distros/setups but I have thus far been unsuccessful.

I love giant robots with giant guns; this is right up my alley.

MWO was the only game I was playing before switching to Linux. I still had 6 months of premium time left on the account when I switched. After not playing for a few weeks it gets very easy to let it go. It would be nice to have it on Linux but that will never happen since they don't have a license to release it on any other platform.

I can play it with gallium-nine, but it's not the smoothest experience even so. That could be more wine overhead on my rig than anything else, but it definitely took a performance hit. Shame, because I used to quite enjoy MW:O....for a time...until the matchmaking queues really got screwed up.

I just installed Steam through Wine and installed MWO from there in Linux Mint 18, and it's functionally great, and playable framerate (probably around 40). Couple of texture bugs on certain map features but they're just discolored, not missing or super ugly.

Only problem I think is my GPU - it's a Radeon R9 290, which I've read is basically loaded with problems on Linux. So I might have to sidegrade it with an NVIDIA 700 series card or something. But yeah, other than not having high enough FPS as I would like, Mechwarrior Online is (to my knowledge thus far) 100% operational.

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You should make it so people can hold down to fire instead of clicking for two reasons:

1: It stops people from cheating by using autoclicker or Steam controller rapid fire.

2: It prevents RSI.

Seriously, my hand is really hurting right now.

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Quoting: snizzoI could reply to you to all these points (like making you notice that the pure number of articles is of absolutely no meaning towards what you're trying to demonstrate (hint: objectivity and not doing click-baiting covering topics that will generate free hate, more hints?

You were suggesting that AMD and MESA were getting partial treatment due to the amount of coverage they received on Phoronix. I showed that Nvidia was getting a comparable amount of coverage, demonstrating that your initial assertion was flawed. Which, I will remind you, was the basis of my entire argument. The content of the articles is actually in many ways immaterial when it comes to that argument, although I do think you would be hard pressed to demonstrate that Micheal Larabel himself has shown any kind of consistent bias against Nvidia.

Quoting: snizzolook at difference between omgubuntu and phoronix reader base

Now here is an example of a statement that has "absolutely no meaning towards what [we] are discussing", and is merely being used as a deflection intended to shift the focus away from a point you now feel the need to dissociate yourself with. The readership of two different websites has no bearing on anything when it comes to your claims of biased coverage on Phoronix.

In fact, the opinions expressed by Phoronix readers or those on its forums also have no bearing on what you are now arguing here either. You are going after Phoronix itself, which by and large is Micheal Larabel, not his readers.

Quoting: snizzoYou're using rethoric and mixing pseudo science with real (infused?) truth, while, of course I was talking about an opinion. The fact that you replied so hard on this, and that you want me to admit my supposed guilt, simply demostrate, at my eyes, that my personal opinion was right and reinforced. Therefore, I won't reply again, my ego does not depend on people reading comments on forums.

You were making claims that are not backed up by the available evidence. While those claims certainly count as your opinion they do not in any way correlate to established fact. Call that pseudo-science if you like, get yourself further entrenched in your own head space if you like, but I will still repeat my suggestion that you try a little introspection here.

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This article managed to make me appreciate Paradox's commitment to releasing all their games on all three OSs simultaneously even more.

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Ho, ho!

Finally!!

That's one of my most wanted ports.

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Quoting: SamsaiThose flowers sure look amazing! Who did the wonderful art for this game?

:P

It's a Mr. Clip. He does tons of good stuff.

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Those flowers sure look amazing! Who did the wonderful art for this game?

:P

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Quoting: ZeloxDo we need wine for this ?

No.

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I like the concept of this game and want to buy it but I am hesitant as it is still in EA and I am very torn.

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Do we need wine for this ?

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Quoting: AsuI wish Bethesda would bring over Skyrim to linux as well.
I have TW1 and will get TW2 as soon as it's on linux.

Uhm, TW2 is on Linux. TW3 isn't.

ops, TW meant Two Worlds, not The Witcher XD.

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Quoting: AnzaI would suppose there's difference if port is done internally or by external porter. If port is done internally, game developer can interpret the numbers as they see fit. They get exactly the same amount of money for each sale anyway. Though there's no absolute guarantee that port will ever leave the beta stage.

For external porters, it sounds like that at least Feral Interactive has contract where they get money only from Linux sales.

Thanks Anza, that answers part of my concern: who gets the money. But the other part of my concern --- who gets the credit? --- remains a mystery. What will the port be tallied as a Linux version on Steam and so add (however incrementally) to Linux's overall reported market share? Or will it add a drop in Window's already oceanic reported market share?

Statistics that game developers see are usually not revealed publicly.

Pretty much only publicly available Steam statistics are the ones gathered in the Steam survey. For that you can't do much more than to keep using Steam only on Linux and hope you'll get selected for the survey. AFAIK SteamOS doesn't count as Linux, so to be on the safe side, stay away from that.

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Quoting: Guest2) The letter 茶 is the title from a Nier: Automata subquest.

But what means "Made to Wade" in this context? Simplified Wade is the most common romanization system for writing Standard Mandarin Chinese. See:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simplified_Wade

I think it is impossible to simply ignore this point because it is evident.

茶 = cha

If you subscribe 茶 according to the rules of simplified Wade you get the syllable "cha".

It is this syllable that you must bring in conjunction with a game to solve the riddle.

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Quoting: AnzaI would suppose there's difference if port is done internally or by external porter. If port is done internally, game developer can interpret the numbers as they see fit. They get exactly the same amount of money for each sale anyway. Though there's no absolute guarantee that port will ever leave the beta stage.

For external porters, it sounds like that at least Feral Interactive has contract where they get money only from Linux sales.

Thanks Anza, that answers part of my concern: who gets the money. But the other part of my concern --- who gets the credit? --- remains a mystery. What will the port be tallied as a Linux version on Steam and so add (however incrementally) to Linux's overall reported market share? Or will it add a drop in Window's already oceanic reported market share?

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100% accurate.

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Six year old game right? Hmmm, god... Vulkan can't get here any faster!

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I wish Bethesda would bring over Skyrim to linux as well.
I have TW1 and will get TW2 as soon as it's on linux.

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I actually backed it on KS but only tried the alpha once. I'm really looking forward to playing it but will probably wait until release to have the best experience. Nice updates though from what the videos show.

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Quoting: Hamish

Quoting: snizzo

Quoting: Hamish

Quoting: snizzoYes please. Just don't be like phoronix and turn this website into a kde, mesa, manjaro, amd etc. zealots center. It's so annoying just reading over 9000 news about the latest commit on amd mesa and all of the hate towards nvidia in general (given that's still the best vendor hardware/software for gaming on linux).

So basically you are complaining that Phoronix covers topics that you hate? And then you turn around and complain about other people being haters?

I think you need to do a little introspection here.

Oh gosh. My message is so difficult to understand? I'm not complaining that phoronix covers some topics (that I don't hate). I'd prefer it to be a news site that gives the same space to everything and treat it objectively, like a journalist do and unlike a blogger do. I'm more and more thrilled to see how many people just don't get what's written in a small comment.

You are annoyed by Michael Larabel's coverage of AMD and Mesa because you prefer Nvidia, and you are complaining about zealotry. I am not misreading your words here. Larabel for all his sins (and he has a few) does give fairly broad coverage of all kinds of topics in the Linux community, including Nvidia.

You just need to do a quick search to see that I am right:
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_topic&q=NVIDIA

AMD and Mesa are going through a huge amount of change right now and have been doing so for the past ten years. I think that is worthy of the amount of news coverage it has been getting. Nvidia is not getting forgotten. You just seem to be irked by the fact that your preferred option does not completely dominate the conversation.

EDIT: Case in point, here are some statistics:
794 AMD news articles published on Phoronix.
612 NVIDIA news articles published on Phoronix.

Now that is a 9000/1 ratio if ever I saw one...

EDIT 2: And just so I can not be accused of selective quoting, in reference to your original post:

Quoting: snizzoSo yes, I'd like you to post news about linux in general, just don't be too obsessive writing at topics that generate traffic through hate and religion like phoronix do.

You mention KDE, Mesa, Manjaro, and AMD in the same breath as "topics that generate traffic through hate and religion" and yet you still maintain that you do not hate the subject matter. Again, some introspection here would be nice. You do seem to take considerable umbridge with them being discussed.

I could reply to you to all these points (like making you notice that the pure number of articles is of absolutely no meaning towards what you're trying to demonstrate (hint: objectivity and not doing click-baiting covering topics that will generate free hate, more hints? look at difference between omgubuntu and phoronix reader base.) but it's no more worth my time. You're using rethoric and mixing pseudo science with real (infused?) truth, while, of course I was talking about an opinion. The fact that you replied so hard on this, and that you want me to admit my supposed guilt, simply demostrate, at my eyes, that my personal opinion was right and reinforced.

Therefore, I won't reply again, my ego does not depend on people reading comments on forums.

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Quoting: JudasIscariot

Quoting: liamdawe

Quoting: pete910

QuoteTwo Worlds II to be released on Linux in May

Fixed, in future, please use the corrections box.

Where is this "corrections box"? I don't see one or I am blind...

"For spelling, grammar and other corrections click here"
Located before the comments.

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