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About bug reporting, this won't help the small number of linux player either:

https://support.survivetheark.com/hc/en-us/articles/227266608-High-Ticket-Volume

Hello Survivors,



We are currently experiencing a high volume of tickets due to the AWS outage, which caused several players to lose their survivor. As such, we're getting to everyone's tickets a bit slower than we'd like, and due to the high amount of tickets received, this can take an extremely long time for in game issues to be resolved.

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Almost a year on...

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Quoting: ValamirCleaverI am unable to get the client to work on Ubuntu 17.10 64-bit. I just get a black rectangle in the middle of my screen and I need to use System Monitor to kill. There's no Linux troubleshooting advice on the Client FAQ page. Their Linux support is very noticeably lacking in comparison to GOG.

Wait , what? Gog is not even trying to release a Linux client.

Gog point of view to Linux is ; potential Dos box games buyers

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Quoting: cthulhusreignAre we 100% that it means tea?

茶「チャ」 Tea

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QuoteAlexei Pepers: In addition to supporting us directly and helping us keep running, using the Beamdog Client over Steam gives an experience that’s more focused on our games and the community we’ve built around them. We have peripheral content like manuals and illustrated guides to the settings that are directly accessible through the Beamdog Client, as well as links to our active forum community. Our games through the Beamdog Client are also DRM-free, and we have plans to make it easy to access the betas for our games for people who are interested.

I don't understand why Feral and other companies should get out of Steam. The advantages stated by the developer here are nice things, but they are possible right now with Steam. Why make a new proprietary thing, when another widely adopted proprietary thing is doing the same? A FOSS client for such things would be really nice. Desura for example was FOSS, but it didn't catch up

Maybe I misunderstand something. Maybe someone could clear it up for me?

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Quoting: liberodarkThis is but have vulkan possibility for mac and linux :

203723/config/oslist: linux
203723/name: Linux Shogun 2 Data
203724/config/oslist: linux
203724/name: Linux Shogun 2 App
203725/config/oslist: linux
203725/name: Linux Shogun 2 FOTS Soundtrack
203726/config/oslist: linux
203726/name: Linux Shogun 2 FOTS
203727/config/language: english
203727/config/oslist: linux
203727/name: Linux Shogun 2 EN
203728/config/language: czech
203728/config/oslist: linux
203728/name: Linux Shogun 2 Czech
203729/config/language: french
203729/config/oslist: linux
203729/name: Linux Shogun 2 French
223182/config/language: german
223182/config/oslist: linux
223182/name: Linux Shogun 2 German
223184/config/language: italian
223184/config/oslist: linux
223184/name: Linux Shogun 2 Italian
223185/config/language: polish
223185/config/oslist: linux
223185/name: Linux Shogun 2 Polish
223186/config/language: russian
223186/config/oslist: linux
223186/name: Linux Shogun 2 Russian
223187/config/language: spanish
223187/config/oslist: linux
223187/name: Linux Shogun 2 Spanish
223188/config/language: japanese
223188/config/oslist: linux
223188/name: Linux Shogun 2 Japanese

Mac doesn't have Vulkan. Also they won't put technical improvements on the radar. Just new releases.

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Feral has never put a platform icon on the radar for something that was already released. So if Shogun 2 is coming, it's not on the radar yet.

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This is but have vulkan possibility for mac and linux :

203723/config/oslist: linux
203723/name: Linux Shogun 2 Data
203724/config/oslist: linux
203724/name: Linux Shogun 2 App
203725/config/oslist: linux
203725/name: Linux Shogun 2 FOTS Soundtrack
203726/config/oslist: linux
203726/name: Linux Shogun 2 FOTS
203727/config/language: english
203727/config/oslist: linux
203727/name: Linux Shogun 2 EN
203728/config/language: czech
203728/config/oslist: linux
203728/name: Linux Shogun 2 Czech
203729/config/language: french
203729/config/oslist: linux
203729/name: Linux Shogun 2 French
223182/config/language: german
223182/config/oslist: linux
223182/name: Linux Shogun 2 German
223184/config/language: italian
223184/config/oslist: linux
223184/name: Linux Shogun 2 Italian
223185/config/language: polish
223185/config/oslist: linux
223185/name: Linux Shogun 2 Polish
223186/config/language: russian
223186/config/oslist: linux
223186/name: Linux Shogun 2 Russian
223187/config/language: spanish
223187/config/oslist: linux
223187/name: Linux Shogun 2 Spanish
223188/config/language: japanese
223188/config/oslist: linux
223188/name: Linux Shogun 2 Japanese

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Quoting: liberodarkIs Total War: SHOGUN 2

The proof is that it is the work of feral that have seen it here !

https://steamdb.info/app/34330/history/

Total War Shogun 2 is already ported to Mac , this Made to Wade things is coming both Linux and Mac

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Is Total War: SHOGUN 2

The proof is that it is the work of feral that have seen it here !

https://steamdb.info/app/34330/history/

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Are we 100% that it means tea?

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Quoting: tmtvlThat says "tea". Is there a game about making tea? I dunno, maybe it's Alice: Madness Returns.

Tea Ceremony Simulator! Woo!

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OMG I hope it is Nier: Automata.

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QuoteQ: Are you hoping it will one day rival Steam, or is it mainly for keeping direct purchases updated? The real question is: What are your plans for the future of the new Beamdog Client?

Alexei Pepers: The previous incarnation of the Beamdog Client was more similar to Steam, in that we did once use it to sell hundreds of games instead of just our own products. The new Beamdog Client is a conscious movement away from that, as we’ve decided that we’d rather focus on supporting and showcasing our own products instead of trying to maintain a huge library of games. Our plans for the future revolve around delivering people the best experience possible with our Client and supporting games with easy to access updates.

Q: What do people benefit from buying directly from Beamdog to use the Beamdog Client, over just buying the game on Steam?

Alexei Pepers: In addition to supporting us directly and helping us keep running, using the Beamdog Client over Steam gives an experience that’s more focused on our games and the community we’ve built around them. We have peripheral content like manuals and illustrated guides to the settings that are directly accessible through the Beamdog Client, as well as links to our active forum community. Our games through the Beamdog Client are also DRM-free, and we have plans to make it easy to access the betas for our games for people who are interested.

I think this is the same path that Feral must follow eventually:
Make your own client and slowly get out from Steam.

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Quoting: x_wingAre you sure? AFAIK gcc doesn't has as dependency an specific libstc++ version (I mean for linking :P)

Normally GCC allows forward compatibility, but it can break in some rare occasions. See "Incompatible with previous" examples here: https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/libstdc++/manual/abi.html

QuoteGoals

Extending existing, stable ABIs. Versioning gives subsequent releases of library binaries the ability to add new symbols and add functionality, all the while retaining compatibility with the previous releases in the series. Thus, program binaries linked with the initial release of a library binary will still run correctly if the library binary is replaced by carefully-managed subsequent library binaries. This is called forward compatibility.

The reverse (backwards compatibility) is not true. It is not possible to take program binaries linked with the latest version of a library binary in a release series (with additional symbols added), substitute in the initial release of the library binary, and remain link compatible.

Allows multiple, incompatible ABIs to coexist at the same time.

If you know your game is breaking C++ ABI for some distro, you might need to bundle libstdc++, but, it has another downside. If you link with something that uses system libstdc++ (for instance, Mesa does in libdrm!), you might end up in complete crashing mess. That already happened with quite a few games.

So normally bundling libstdc++ is a bad idea, but if stuff starts breaking, you'd need to update your release.

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Quoting: Guest

Quoting: dubigrasuYeah, not much point in testing your client on SteamOS proper, but the moment you switch to desktop mode is basically Debian Jessie, and Debian Jessie is a pretty big distro to be left behind.

Oh indeed, it’s very recent too. Since libstdc++ comes with gcc, and Debian 8 (Jessie) has gcc 4.9… It means the client won’t work either on Ubuntu 14.04 (gcc 4.8) and Gentoo (gcc 4.9)? Sounds bad.

Are you sure? AFAIK gcc doesn't has as dependency an specific libstc++ version (I mean for linking :P)

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I am unable to get the client to work on Ubuntu 17.10 64-bit. I just get a black rectangle in the middle of my screen and I need to use System Monitor to kill. There's no Linux troubleshooting advice on the Client FAQ page. Their Linux support is very noticeably lacking in comparison to GOG.

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Quoting: UltraVioletI guess if I'm using a legacy AMD GPU I have to use the open source drivers on Mint 18 and still can't use Steam ?

No, you can run Steam with open source drivers.

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Quoting: UltraVioletI guess if I'm using a legacy AMD GPU I have to use the open source drivers on Mint 18 and still can't use Steam ?

The open source AMD drivers won't stop you from running Steam and games, but your legacy GPU might.

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Quoting: robvv

Quoting: CyrilNot a single word about GOG release or whatever ?
Come on Croteam ! :)

Whilst I appreciate that some Linux gamers like their games DRM-free, I am just happy that a dev such as Croteam thinks Linux is worth the effort. The games are also on sale at a stupidly cheap price on Steam too :-)

Yeah at this moment, i very like their efforts. But stay stuck in Steam system is unpleasant for me.
Unfortunately, i won't buy this if it doesn't come with DRM-Free build, it's principle, whatever the cost.
But, right now, on GOG we only have the originals versions, not even the HD versions as i see, so my question is not useless.

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Quoting: CyrilNot a single word about GOG release or whatever ?
Come on Croteam ! :)

Whilst I appreciate that some Linux gamers like their games DRM-free, I am just happy that a dev such as Croteam thinks Linux is worth the effort. The games are also on sale at a stupidly cheap price on Steam too :-)

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I guess if I'm using a legacy AMD GPU I have to use the open source drivers on Mint 18 and still can't use Steam ?

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Not a single word about GOG release or whatever ?
Come on Croteam ! :)

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I really like what you are doing, Beamdog. Keep up the amazing work.

I especially also like you going for drm-free! Will definetly buy on your store and not Steam!

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Quoting: ZeloxThe silence before the storm.

Looking at my library, I'd say welcome silence before the storm! ^_^

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OK, got it working locally using libstdc++.so.6 from Stretch, is looking nice:



It looks like for the moment the Linux versions are not available from the Beamdog store/client though, only from Steam and GOG.

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Quoting: kellerkindtWhy cant it be Witcher 3 :'(

Well, Rise of the Tomb Raider is also okay-ish ^_^

EDIT: Anyone else noticed that there is only one Linux title on their radar and only 3 in total? Everything alright @feral?

The silence before the storm.

I'm sure they got more plans, games will apper on the radar when they are getting ready for release.
Im assuming its not to cleaver to announce a port right after you get the licens for it, just look at the steam forums on games that are promesing a linux port / mac port :P.

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Quoting: GuestHowever, nothing happens when I click the Play button in the launcher. I could not find the game binary in the file system. I found a 6GB file for the game. Many Steam Linux games works out of box, so very stupid way to distribute this game. I removed the demo and play other games.

What should happen is that the game updates are downloaded by bittorrent as zip files, then they are extracted into the installation folder. It sounds like your client got stuck after the zip was downloaded but before it was extracted.

Quoting: GuestI have two quests that I have no idea how to complete (one tells me to get an iron sword from somewhere, but going there and exploring doesn’t produce the expected result, and the other tells me to go to a zone I’m unable to return to).

The iron blade is a random drop, keep killing and looting bandits in the Perennial Trail scenes and eventually you'll get it (Bandit Leaders will drop it most often). There are two quests in the Battle of Solace Bridge which if you don't get the required items (Charlotte and Quincy's Broken Sword) while in the scene you will never be able to complete them, but everything else should be possible to return to.

Quoting: GuestI have no idea if the game has the same concept of groups and instances as WoW.

If you play in 'Friends online' mode then you have to make your party before entering the scene to ensure you end up in the same instance. In multiplayer most of the time everyone will be in the same instance unless we exceed the maximum player count (should be at least 64) or people are on different versions of the client. There are scenes which force 'Solo/Party mode' such as mines and dungeons, for those you should group up before entering.

Quoting: GuestIn WoW you can have 10 characters, which is nice to try different classes, make both male and female characters, etc.

The main argument made against the multiple character slots is that there are no classes as such, you are free to learn whatever skills you want on a single character and switch between them as required. However, I agree, we should be allowed.

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Quoting: chtkWade > Wade Wilson > Deadpool?

(One can dream ...)

I agree! Wade, red symbol... It would be awesome! :D

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Quoting: Hori

Quoting: dubigrasu

Quoting: liamdawe

Quoting: dubigrasuAlas, for all the good words about SteamOS the Beamdog client doesn't work on it. (older libstdc++.so.6).

Their games are built to work on SteamOS of course, but their client is not. SteamOS isn't a place where you're meant to go around installing other clients ;)

In the BPM mode indeed, but in desktop mode is basically Debian stable, where I do have some other clients installed (basically itchio and Gamejolt).
Or leaving aside SteamOS, the client doesn't work on Debian stable.

SteamOS is not meant to be used outside BPM...
That's there just for exceptional cases, like debugging.
Steam Machines themselves aren't meant to be used with a keyboard or mouse.

Yeah, you can. It supports them. But BPM + Controller is the main focus.

Yes, SteamOS has a specific usage target which is gaming on BPM while the desktop mode is a bonus (otherwise perfectly usable when needed). But like I said few times already, is the underlying Debian stable that has been left out.
Let me put it again in another way: the client doesn't work on Debian stable.

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