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It somehow has to be rise of the tomb raider

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Quoting: meggermanThat might explain it thanks

i will give it a go and see what happens, to be fair the Pro driver hasnt been too bad, but im more excited about the FOSS driver and any chance to use it is welcome. My main rig is Nvidia of course ^_^


( perhaps Vega will change that ?)

I hope Vega will achieve that.

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Quoting: LeopardI'm using Mint Cinnamon as well. You need to turn on visible fourth level updates of update manager. That is closed by default.

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That might explain it thanks

i will give it a go and see what happens, to be fair the Pro driver hasnt been too bad, but im more excited about the FOSS driver and any chance to use it is welcome. My main rig is Nvidia of course ^_^


( perhaps Vega will change that ?)

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Quoting: evergreenmy bet is f1 2016: same logo colours, the announcement that it won't come to linux was near to 1st april, and japan ideogram indicates release day will be on suzuka's gp...

No,they say that won't come to Linux. Besides F1 2016 already ported to Mac ; that new game will come to Linux and Mac.

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Quoting: meggerman

Quoting: LeopardYou can get latest Mesa updates with this ppa on Mint/Ubuntu. I'm on Mesa 17.0.3 right now and i'm using stable ones.

https://launchpad.net/~paulo-miguel-dias/+archive/ubuntu/pkppa

This is the bleeding edge one.

https://launchpad.net/~paulo-miguel-dias/+archive/ubuntu/mesa

I might give those a try, a few months ago the OIBAF PPA didn't work, nothing appeared in the Driver manager :/ only the Pro would actually install.. however the pro doesnt work with Mint Cinnamon ( or at least it didn't a few months ago ) so i had to migrate the desktop to MATE.

There's also this newish PPA maintained by a Canonical employee:

https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/ubuntu/updates

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Quoting: meggerman

Quoting: LeopardYou can get latest Mesa updates with this ppa on Mint/Ubuntu. I'm on Mesa 17.0.3 right now and i'm using stable ones.

https://launchpad.net/~paulo-miguel-dias/+archive/ubuntu/pkppa

This is the bleeding edge one.

https://launchpad.net/~paulo-miguel-dias/+archive/ubuntu/mesa

I might give those a try, a few months ago the OIBAF PPA didn't work, nothing appeared in the Driver manager :/ only the Pro would actually install.. however the pro doesnt work with Mint Cinnamon ( or at least it didn't a few months ago ) so i had to migrate the desktop to MATE.

I'm using Mint Cinnamon as well. You need to turn on visible fourth level updates of update manager. That is closed by default.

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Quoting: LeopardYou can get latest Mesa updates with this ppa on Mint/Ubuntu. I'm on Mesa 17.0.3 right now and i'm using stable ones.

https://launchpad.net/~paulo-miguel-dias/+archive/ubuntu/pkppa

This is the bleeding edge one.

https://launchpad.net/~paulo-miguel-dias/+archive/ubuntu/mesa

I might give those a try, a few months ago the OIBAF PPA didn't work, nothing appeared in the Driver manager :/ only the Pro would actually install.. however the pro doesnt work with Mint Cinnamon ( or at least it didn't a few months ago ) so i had to migrate the desktop to MATE.

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I've been using Ubuntu since 10.10, when i read that article i decided to change DE to KDE. For me this was big since unity and KDE have been my goto DE's, now i'm KDE for good. Cononical's choice makes perfect sence in allowing the team toy work on the distro as a whole and not split in two. for me OpenSUSE 42.2 Kde is my distro of choice, but i do love Kubuntu just as much, in my opinion i believe Mark should go KDE instead and work hand in hand with blue systems in supporting KDE and Ubuntu, just my opinion.

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my bet is f1 2016: same logo colours, the announcement that it won't come to linux was near to 1st april, and japan ideogram indicates release day will be on suzuka's gp...

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Quoting: Purple Library Guy

Quoting: GrimfistBecause there is one thing that Unity 7 did absolutly right compared to ALL other Linux DE's out there, in times where 16:9 widescreens are the norm, vertical screen space is very precious compared to horizontal screen space. Having a monstrous launcher bar at the bottom is just bad UX design when you can have it at the left side of the screen, preserving precious vertical screen space and using the available but only 80% or so used horizontal screen space. And delivering such a good out of the box experience is what drives Ubuntu.

Really, ALL? So let's see, here I am using Mate, and I guess that thing on the right hand edge of my screen can't be a taskbar with a bunch of launchers on it because apparently ALL the Linux DEs other than Unity don't do that.

Just clicked on the lower right hand of my KDE desktop and dragged the "Screen border" thingy to any side, and...
taskbar goes and stays there.

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Quoting: meggerman

Quoting: Guest

Quoting: meggermanNot knocking this 'news' but might it be better to only report on Interesting MESA / AMDGPU updates on a Linux gaming site where the majority of gamers should be using the FOSS driver, which is better for gaming and officially supported by companies like Feral ? It wouldnt be good to confuse new Linux AMD users any more than they have to be given the multiple naming schemes and combos when talking about the AMD Linux GPU drivers. In fact AMDGPU-Pro drivers do not work properly on some distros and also require downloading and manually installing which is the kind of headache that really puts people off Linux usage in general.

A simple PPA of AMDGPU/MESA or in arch/antergos/manjaros case them being supplied as standard as those distros are newer should be all that is needed.

imo of couse ^_^

the -pro driver updates are fairly rare, and in this case have fixes for at least one game. Then there are things like compat OpenGL contexts not being available through Mesa, so if a game needs that then you're stuck with -pro, and the -pro Vulkan implementation is still ahead of radv (not that I've found a game where that actually matters). Then there's freesync support as well.

So there are reasons a new amdgpu-pro driver is of interest to GNU/Linux people, be it for desktop, developing, or gaming.

Fair Point ^_^

I actually have had to run AMDGPU-Pro in the recent past as one of my machines isn't properly supported yet on AMDGPU. Although that might be to do with it being on Mint and Mint being far behind in kernal/mesa updates.

You can get latest Mesa updates with this ppa on Mint/Ubuntu. I'm on Mesa 17.0.3 right now and i'm using stable ones.

https://launchpad.net/~paulo-miguel-dias/+archive/ubuntu/pkppa

This is the bleeding edge one.

https://launchpad.net/~paulo-miguel-dias/+archive/ubuntu/mesa

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It better use Vulkan! :-)

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Quoting: lvlarkMy $0.03 on the vertical/horizontal taskbar:

$0.01: Having little use of horizontal screen space is a mistake of applications/websites (thankfully not GOL).

I wonder what you're referring to, here. For good reasons, lines are not printed too wide for at least centuries now - and so does GoL:

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Quoting: Guest

Quoting: meggermanNot knocking this 'news' but might it be better to only report on Interesting MESA / AMDGPU updates on a Linux gaming site where the majority of gamers should be using the FOSS driver, which is better for gaming and officially supported by companies like Feral ? It wouldnt be good to confuse new Linux AMD users any more than they have to be given the multiple naming schemes and combos when talking about the AMD Linux GPU drivers. In fact AMDGPU-Pro drivers do not work properly on some distros and also require downloading and manually installing which is the kind of headache that really puts people off Linux usage in general.

A simple PPA of AMDGPU/MESA or in arch/antergos/manjaros case them being supplied as standard as those distros are newer should be all that is needed.

imo of couse ^_^

the -pro driver updates are fairly rare, and in this case have fixes for at least one game. Then there are things like compat OpenGL contexts not being available through Mesa, so if a game needs that then you're stuck with -pro, and the -pro Vulkan implementation is still ahead of radv (not that I've found a game where that actually matters). Then there's freesync support as well.

So there are reasons a new amdgpu-pro driver is of interest to GNU/Linux people, be it for desktop, developing, or gaming.

Fair Point ^_^

I actually have had to run AMDGPU-Pro in the recent past as one of my machines isn't properly supported yet on AMDGPU. Although that might be to do with it being on Mint and Mint being far behind in kernal/mesa updates.

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Well I've just about done Hitman to death so I'm ready for Shadow Warrior 2 or another Tomb Raider. Bring it on Feral :D

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Quoting: Hamish

Quoting: snizzoYes please. Just don't be like phoronix and turn this website into a kde, mesa, manjaro, amd etc. zealots center. It's so annoying just reading over 9000 news about the latest commit on amd mesa and all of the hate towards nvidia in general (given that's still the best vendor hardware/software for gaming on linux).

So basically you are complaining that Phoronix covers topics that you hate? And then you turn around and complain about other people being haters?

I think you need to do a little introspection here.

Oh gosh. My message is so difficult to understand? I'm not complaining that phoronix covers some topics (that I don't hate). I'd prefer it to be a news site that gives the same space to everything and treat it objectively, like a journalist do and unlike a blogger do. I'm more and more thrilled to see how many people just don't get what's written in a small comment.

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We need Lara Croft, our favourite Tomb Raider to rise to the lofty heights of our coveted Linux OS, and if that involves wading through tea, I'm fine with that too.

Edit: Please ;-)

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Finally I can play a game whose title reflects my view on life.

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It's sad to see people lose jobs, but the Unity 8 desktop will continue in development. Michał Sawicz has mentioned this. it's open source :) this is why open source can be the greatest thing, because even when a corporation or company sees no merit, the developers get to decide that ultimately if a piece of software goes into the graveyard of code.

In one way I like this, because we may see fresh Unity 8 builds pop up in the AUR in the near future :)
But besides that, I'm glad Canonical are back using and working with GNOME. hopefully we get to see some special Ubuntu flair on GNOME now. I wouldn't mind seeing a full global menu in GNOME. Not sure if that'll happen but it could as an optional feature on Ubuntu or an Ubuntu patched build of GNOME shell.

But nevertheless, I hope everyone that lost jobs will be able to find new employment quickly.

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It's a dumb move. Unity is great and going back to GNOME for no good reason is just feels like a betrayal. What's the benefit for the user who already picked Ubuntu with Unity and liked it?! :-(

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Still no Support for my r9 270x ;(

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Quoting: MohandevirLook at the symbol... The island of Yamatai is at this the tip of the Dragon's triangle, near to Japan...

Rise of the Tomb Raider confirmed! Lol!

My guess is as good as yours!

There is also quite a lot movement on the depots suddenly: https://steamdb.info/app/391220/history/

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Quoting: LilaTequilaI dont think Holy Potatoes is available on Linux...

Actually it is :)

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I have i5 6600K and GTX 1080 Strix and the Game runs in 4K whopping 60FPS (average) with Ultra & MSAAx4 or 60FPS (minumum) with Ultra & MSAAx2!

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I dont think Holy Potatoes is available on Linux...

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Hmm, might have to get this one. My attempts at a Japan playthrough have always stopped soon due to it feeling... lackluster? But not until summer - must not get distracted from work for the coming 2-3 months.

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Quoting: Eike

QuoteQuestion: Is there any interest in me doing a separate site to cover general Linux news?

I wouldn't be interested, but I think this news is so important that it's rightfully on GoL.

About the news:
I'm sad that this puts the end to a possible alternative for mobile phones.

Agreed - I'm interested in the occasional general Linux news post, but no need to put it on a different side.

And about the phone: I hate smartphones, but am somewhat forced to use one. I was hoping an Ubuntu Phone might become a decent option, so far that I might actually buy one instead of using my dad's hand-me-down.

About Unity and convergence going the way of the Dodo: I never liked Unity. PC's have to look and act like PC's, phones/tablets have to look and act like mobile devices.

My $0.03 on the vertical/horizontal taskbar:

$0.01: Having little use of horizontal screen space is a mistake of applications/websites (thankfully not GOL). Although having applications open side by side can be very useful (or panels within games).

$0.02: Cinnamon's taskbar is very slim, due to not using huge icons, but small icons with a wee bit of text next to it instead. And I like having that bit of text.

$0.03: Adding text to a vertical taskbar (for instance the word 'Menu' or just a digital clock) makes it wider than I'm comfortable with. Unless you auto-collapse it, but I don't like that either. My main grope with a wide vertical taskbar? It distorts the symmetry of my applications/websites. The horizontal middle of my screen is no longer the horizontal middle of 'my' application/website.

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Quoting: KelsI will always guess Skyrim. No matter what the hint, it means Skyrim.

Love this philosophical line, no matter what it's Sryrim.

The first thins that popped in my memory was Daikatana, but after refreshing my memory i realized that i was totally insane, nothing of it.

So I will say ... Skyrim

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i really hope its Shadow Warrior 2, then again i had the impression it will be inhouse port.

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Quoting: aka_alarm

Quoting: mas886Is there any reason why should I use PRO drivers instead of the open ones?

Well, it allows you to use your GPU as compute device for Cycles in Blender, for example. Or use filmic-blender. =)

But open driver is better for gaming in my case. =) Dirt Showdown, Hitman, Serious Sam and Mad Max work more smoothly with it.

Quick note: You can also install the AMDGPU-PRO OpenCL part, and still use the open drivers for OpenGL :)

For arch: install opencl-amd from AUR (source.

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