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Quoting: FutureSuture

Quoting: PKMplOf course we want the support of one the biggest publishers and developers, why would anyone even hesitate?

Windows gamers don't seem to like getting shafted, hence the huge controversy surrounding Ubisoft at the moment (the company loves to shoot itself in the foot) so why should Linux gamers?

People on the internet always complain, yet their games keep selling millions. There obviously is a demand.

That's the sad part, yes. People love to throw a tantrum after getting burned, not learn a thing, and then get burned again which will conjure another tantrum. Windows gamers are throwing tantrums left and right about Ubisoft and yet Linux gamers are pleading to be afforded the same opportunities as Windows gamers with regard to Ubisoft.

Being honest with you I don't really have a problem with their titles, however I do always play their games once they land on sales (so they are patched up by then). Uplay doesn't bother me too much as well, it just extends the loading. The only time I really had a problem with it was after Watch Dogs launched and I was trying to play Far Cry 3, it just won't launch it, took me a few tries. I'm not saying I like it, but it's only a minor drawback to me.

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I've got by fine for 2 years without Ubisoft and I can go at least 2 more.

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Quoting: PKMpl

Quoting: FutureSuture

Quoting: PKMplOf course we want the support of one the biggest publishers and developers, why would anyone even hesitate?

Windows gamers don't seem to like getting shafted, hence the huge controversy surrounding Ubisoft at the moment (the company loves to shoot itself in the foot) so why should Linux gamers?

People on the internet always complain, yet their games keep selling millions. There obviously is a demand.

That's the sad part, yes. People love to throw a tantrum after getting burned, not learn a thing, and then get burned again which will conjure another tantrum. Windows gamers are throwing tantrums left and right about Ubisoft and yet Linux gamers are pleading to be afforded the same opportunities as Windows gamers with regard to Ubisoft.

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I don't really like new Ubisoft games, and I really dislike Uplay.
The only recent Ubisoft game that was really good in my opinion was R.U.S.E.
Anno 2070 and it's perpetual connection required to play... I had to wait 6 month to activate it, since I was behind a restrictive firewall, and unable (I was trying to play on windows) to redirect everything trough a VPN. The support said they couldn't do anything.
Splinter Cell : conviction was a ok-ish game, not really a stealth and infiltration game.
I never tried assassin's creed, but I really dislike this entirely scripted combat system (and the whole mechanics of this game), where you are not really in control of the game. Sure, this makes really smooth movements, but if you want beautifully executed actions from someone you don't control, just watch a movie.
Settlers online. I won't comment on this.
There may be some other games I can't remember right now, but since I can't remember those, I certainly disliked them.

But, what I dislike most about Ubisoft games, is their character animations : those must be right into the uncanny valley for me, but I can't stand the way people move around in ubisoft games. Either in Anno 2070, settlers online, or what I have observed in assassin's creed (some of my friends are really hardcore fans of it), this is always, more or less, the same body animations for the peasants, that I find simply revulsing. And I am not really exigent in terms of animations : I have no problems with those of Deus Ex, or Half-life 1. This is specific to Ubisoft games.
I was wondering... Is there anyone else annoyed by this, or am I the only one?


To temperate a bit : I liked Trackmania, HAWX, Just dance (Wii), and some others.
Yes, I would like to see Ubisoft games on Linux, even if I disliked some. NO, I DON'T WANT to see those Ubisoft "services" on Linux. Just make GOOD games, please. That will be enough for you to be paid, and you have great room for improvements, just see Watchdogs.

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QuoteAhhh, what Ubisoft really means is that current DRM is failing, so new DRM needs to be brought in to fix this. Got it. To my knowledge, Ubisoft does not yet have a presence on Linux, but with Windows gamers constantly getting shafted, do Linux gamers want such a company to join the fray?

I must be reading somebody radically different, because I'm pretty sure what they said doesn't equal DRM. Services could be anything, from achievements to free roaming multiplayer.

Check the source on which this editorial is based.

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Quoting: PKMplOf course we want the support of one the biggest publishers and developers, why would anyone even hesitate?

Windows gamers don't seem to like getting shafted, hence the huge controversy surrounding Ubisoft at the moment (the company loves to shoot itself in the foot) so why should Linux gamers?

People on the internet always complain, yet their games keep selling millions. There obviously is a demand.

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QuoteAhhh, what Ubisoft really means is that current DRM is failing, so new DRM needs to be brought in to fix this. Got it. To my knowledge, Ubisoft does not yet have a presence on Linux, but with Windows gamers constantly getting shafted, do Linux gamers want such a company to join the fray?

I must be reading somebody radically different, because I'm pretty sure what they said doesn't equal DRM. Services could be anything, from achievements to free roaming multiplayer.

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They can do what they want I just refuse to give them money. Last time I bought one of their games their servers went down for a week and I never got to play it. They can't manage crap and I'm not willing to risk my money on something that may or may not work.

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Quoting: commodore256All Ubisoft games? Yes.
Uplay? No.

Except it's Ubisoft we're talking about. We're not getting the former without the latter. And THAT is the problem (well, that and their sh***y behavior toward customers).

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Do I want Ubisoft on Linux? No. Do I recognize the need for Ubisoft on Linux? Yes.

As a side note, there hasn't been a western AAA title released in the last 5 years that I care about. I'd rather have From Software on Linux. Or some older games like Final Fantasy VIII or Wizardry 8 or Recettear.

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All Ubisoft games? Yes.
Uplay? No.

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Quoting: liamdaweI picked up Ghost Recon Future Soldier on PS3 second hand recently for a bit of fun with my friend online, but nope that's another £7 to play online because of their online pass system.

£7 to play online on a two year old game.

I never agree that second hand buyers need to pay again to play online, why should they? Ubisoft got their money on the first purchase.

They are not a nice company to deal with.

You got burn and I understand your distrust. I bought from them heroes, settlers and anno series and had a lot of fun playing them. So yes I would like to have these games in future fore Linux.

There was a huge controversy around Anno 2070's always need to be online, even when just playing singleplayer, right? The game was quite broken from what I read. Sounds perfectly logical to be online when playing singleplayer.

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Quoting: PKMplOf course we want the support of one the biggest publishers and developers, why would anyone even hesitate?

Windows gamers don't seem to like getting shafted, hence the huge controversy surrounding Ubisoft at the moment (the company loves to shoot itself in the foot) so why should Linux gamers?

Because of games. Because I like anno and I like heroes and I like settlers. And I can not do nothing about that :(. And I agree that uplay is pain. That settlers VII always online policy was same pain and discomfort as Diablo III. But still It would be better that they are here and make Linux games ad we complain about they DRM policy than they are not making games for Linux and we do not complain about that.

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Well, having Ubisoft's games on Linux would be nice, but I already bought UDontPlay requiring game once and I'm not going to repeat same mistake twice. No matter of plaftorm.

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Quoting: PKMplOf course we want the support of one the biggest publishers and developers, why would anyone even hesitate?

Windows gamers don't seem to like getting shafted, hence the huge controversy surrounding Ubisoft at the moment (the company loves to shoot itself in the foot) so why should Linux gamers?

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I'd like to see at least Anno 1404 or Anno 2070 ported to Linux. Now it's true that Uplay is pure sh*t and I'm OK not to see it on Linux.

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Quoting: godlikeYes we want Ubisoft's support because they are making really good games. DRM no DRM who gives a fudge about this dispute? I just want to have a choice. And if someone doesn't like DRM he can always avoid clicking "buy"... that simple.

A fudge load of people give a flying fudge about this fudging dispute. Just traverse the internet and you'll see. Ubisoft's DRM is a special kind of bad and its rich history of controversy surrounding its software justifies the question rather well. We are most certainly not talking about Valve and Steam here. Ubisoft and Uplay is different. As commentators elsewhere have said, if the vast majority ignoring these things doesn't mobilize, nothing will change.

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Quoting: liamdaweI picked up Ghost Recon Future Soldier on PS3 second hand recently for a bit of fun with my friend online, but nope that's another £7 to play online because of their online pass system.

£7 to play online on a two year old game.

I never agree that second hand buyers need to pay again to play online, why should they? Ubisoft got their money on the first purchase.

They are not a nice company to deal with.

You got burn and I understand your distrust. I bought from them heroes, settlers and anno series and had a lot of fun playing them. So yes I would like to have these games in future fore Linux.

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Of course we want the support of one the biggest publishers and developers, why would anyone even hesitate?

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I picked up Ghost Recon Future Soldier on PS3 second hand recently for a bit of fun with my friend online, but nope that's another £7 to play online because of their online pass system.

£7 to play online on a two year old game.

I never agree that second hand buyers need to pay again to play online, why should they? Ubisoft got their money on the first purchase.

They are not a nice company to deal with.

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Yes we want Ubisoft's support because they are making really good games. DRM no DRM who gives a fudge about this dispute? I just want to have a choice. And if someone doesn't like DRM he can always avoid clicking "buy"... that simple.

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Not bothered about Ubisoft, I want (for all my sins, I know they suck...) EA on Linux.

Although I'm going to have to by a PS4 just for uncharted 4, so might as well play FIFA on there. I will put a caveat on my EA thing though, I'd want stuff like Mirrors Edge and Mass Effect, but directly on Steam.

EA's "origin" can burn in the same fire as Uplay for all im concerned!

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Are you sure you didn't meant paupav?

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Services? UPlay isn't a service.

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I want ubisoft on Linux because I liked ubisoft games when I was still using windows.

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Perfect timing for this article, I am trying to get Farcry 3 running on wine and just struggle because of uplay for like 2 hours now. I think I will just crack it, will be easier and save some nerves.

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The sad thing is, people actually will buy those services.

When all is said and done it's not the companies that are ruining gaming with their online stores and pay to win features, it's the gamers who buy them, and there are a lot of them. Enough of them to actually earn those companies more money through online stores then they make off of game sales.

Apparently those of us who expect the full product of a game to be uneffected by their business model are a minority

(even buying everything isn't good enough because they've probably chopped the game up forcefully into pieces where it might not even make sense to do so. One example is taking a weapon that was already balanced and splitting it's features up into multiple separate weapons which are all now unbalanced just so they can put more items in their store)

Especially in online gaming. The people who can buy advantages and not be bothered by it disgust me.
As far as I can tell it's basically the exact same mindset of a person who can download a hack to win in a game.
I'm not cheap either, I'd pay $100 for a game much sooner than I would spend even a single dollar in a free to play game that gives me an advantage in any way.

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Does a healthy system need a cancer? Does a healthy ecosystem need a plague?
What kind of question is that? ;p

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The winner is not me. This isn't right! :'(

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Steam only unfortunately, even in the Humble Store.

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