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Is Payday 2 still relevant? The other day I stated to an XCOM player that there wasn't as much activity as I expected for such a game. He then reminded me that the game was a couple years old. While it's not such an issue with XCOM, since the multiplayer is 1v1 and the single player is rich and lengthy, games like Payday 2 are strictly multiplayer. When the servers die the game dies.

Either way, good to see popular titles coming to Linux. Granted, I'm more keen to a solo affair ;)

Edit: Well shut my mouth; the game's more recent than I thought. Also, 40k players presently, so forget what I said :D ALL ABOARD THE HYPE TRAIN *Choo Choo*

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YES YES YES! Cant say how glad I'm to see this. I really hope this will happen. This game is something I'v spent alot of hours in. And its one step closer for me to use Linux 24/7. I only hope wow could get a linux port soon, I know they got one. Vanilla even hade a linux client when its was in beta. And if I can make a wish to santa, I would like to see GTA V get a linux version :).

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Oh, that would be great, the game is really good. People have been asking for a Linux port since the first game (as it already used an OpenGL-friendly engine) but until now it was a pretty firm "no plans for a Linux version".
Let's hope we won't get a similar answer as for Borderlands 2.

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I used to get iffy about such articles, but after XCOM & Civ the big games are already here. Now we just need to keep pushing.

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This is a pretty big title. Is Linux gaming finally at the point where we can start expecting AAA games? I mean, Metro series, Civ 5, and now maybe Payday 2? I think so.

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Could be linked to the guy starting development work on a mobile development platform.

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Quoting: Beamboom"Linux users typically shy away from any form of DRM, so you can bet there is a large bunch of Linux users who just simply refuse to use Steam."
I don't see how this is of any relevance to anything since the topic here is Linux share of Steam users.
To put it this way; There's plenty of Windows users out there who don't use Steam too - but that's just as irrelevant.

Well, a GOL survey would let us find out if that's the case since it would survey all GOL users, not just Steam users :)

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BG:EE runs on BG2:EE engine, so I would be surprised if they didn't release both games for linux.

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I'm so poised to get it. It looks like a lot of fun.

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Quoting: Bestia

Quoting: edddeduckferalThe person reporting this is running on an unsupported card, based on our testing the norm on supported hardware is very similar, we have a Nvidia 650 here in the office with higher performance (by a few frames) than Windows. Older unsupported cards it seems can sometimes hit driver bottlenecks, due to all the different Window Managers and driver combinations that are possible on Linux it's hard to get a general baseline as some Window managers or overrides in the Nvidia settings utility can affect game performance quite dramatically.

However we are monitoring what people have been reporting to see if anything serious or a pattern appears.

He uses GTX 660 which is much more powerful than your GTX 650 and it is a card that should be supported.

Also there are definitely more people that report a big performance difference when compared to what they get on Windows. Just look at the comments in that post on linux_gaming subreddit:

http://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/29kyxg/pc_report_xcom_enemy_unknown_on_linux_43_drop_in/

Most people running the game on Linux didn't make comparison with Windows so they couldn't tell if there is any difference in performance. I also didn't make such comparison because I don't have Windows and i don't use it at all since 2008.

We have never said there aren't few people with the odd performance issue that much is certain however most people get decent performance and are very happy with the game, the outliers do seem to usually be running on systems that other people with the same setup get decent performance so it's not clear what the cause of the larger drops for some people is.

I am not denying that Windows can be faster than Linux although with the latest patch (in beta)the performance delta on most cards is usually isn't noticeable at all.

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Quoting: edddeduckferalThe person reporting this is running on an unsupported card, based on our testing the norm on supported hardware is very similar, we have a Nvidia 650 here in the office with higher performance (by a few frames) than Windows. Older unsupported cards it seems can sometimes hit driver bottlenecks, due to all the different Window Managers and driver combinations that are possible on Linux it's hard to get a general baseline as some Window managers or overrides in the Nvidia settings utility can affect game performance quite dramatically.

However we are monitoring what people have been reporting to see if anything serious or a pattern appears.

He uses GTX 660 which is much more powerful than your GTX 650 and it is a card that should be supported.

Also there are definitely more people that report a big performance difference when compared to what they get on Windows. Just look at the comments in that post on linux_gaming subreddit:

http://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/29kyxg/pc_report_xcom_enemy_unknown_on_linux_43_drop_in/

Most people running the game on Linux didn't make comparison with Windows so they couldn't tell if there is any difference in performance. I also didn't make such comparison because I don't have Windows and i don't use it at all since 2008.

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About time! Is BG2:EE planned for Linux as well?

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Quoting: oldrocker99+1 for a survey. I've seen people complaining about certain games, which run fine for me, not running for them (and they've got a GTX780, and I have a 650ti).

+1

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Quoting: Cheeseness

Quoting: BestiaWell I would say that it is norm. Just today someone posted this on Steam forums:

Two people doesn't make it the norm.

So far as I can tell, more people are not having problems than those that are. That doesn't mean that things are perfect (though it is great to see Feral being responsive to people who do have problems) - I only highlight it because focusing on edge cases to judge the port on isn't a good idea.

We have thousands of Linux XCOM players, given the small number of comments on performance I think any major issues are definitely edge cases usually caused by setup. That's not to say they don't exist but people tend to post when things go wrong more than they do when things go right :)

That all said the quest for performance is always never ending as people always want more frames and higher resolutions :)

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Quoting: BestiaWell I would say that it is norm. Just today someone posted this on Steam forums:

Two people doesn't make it the norm.

So far as I can tell, there are a lot more people are not having problems than there are those that are. That doesn't mean that things are perfect (though it is great to see Feral being responsive to people who do have problems) - I only highlight it because focusing on edge cases to judge the port on isn't a good idea.

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*I think they are on a 500 series Nvidia however I might be wrong as I have spoken to so many people recently :)

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Quoting: Bestia

Quoting: CheesenessOthers have highlighted that this could be an edge case rather than the norm, but even if it wasn't, 43fps is still more than playable, and it's better to view that as being "room for improvement" that we can use to positively encourage further development rather than being unacceptable or a poor job.

I don't know what kind of existing Linux experience Feral Interactive had or brought onboard for the project, but as a first port from the studio, it's pretty positive IMO.

Well I would say that it is norm. Just today someone posted this on Steam forums:

QuoteJust tried the game on windows on the same hardware (i5-3570, gtx660), got ~110 fps at the place where I usually get ~35 on linux.

UPD: nVidia 340.17, linux 3.15.3

That doesn't mean that I consider the port as poor or unacceptable. The port is good, very good but it sure could use some performance boost.

Also the Feral developers are very active and helpful everywhere that I look.

They have a fix in beta patch for crashing after the end of the mission when you are using VPN or ppp0 or other interface which doesn't have MAC address. It only took them two weeks since the first people reported the issue on Steam forums.

The person reporting this is running on an unsupported card, based on our testing the norm on supported hardware is very similar, we have a Nvidia 650 here in the office with higher performance (by a few frames) than Windows. Older unsupported cards it seems can sometimes hit driver bottlenecks, due to all the different Window Managers and driver combinations that are possible on Linux it's hard to get a general baseline as some Window managers or overrides in the Nvidia settings utility can affect game performance quite dramatically.

However we are monitoring what people have been reporting to see if anything serious or a pattern appears.

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Quoting: CheesenessOthers have highlighted that this could be an edge case rather than the norm, but even if it wasn't, 43fps is still more than playable, and it's better to view that as being "room for improvement" that we can use to positively encourage further development rather than being unacceptable or a poor job.

I don't know what kind of existing Linux experience Feral Interactive had or brought onboard for the project, but as a first port from the studio, it's pretty positive IMO.

Well I would say that it is norm. Just today someone posted this on Steam forums:

QuoteJust tried the game on windows on the same hardware (i5-3570, gtx660), got ~110 fps at the place where I usually get ~35 on linux.

UPD: nVidia 340.17, linux 3.15.3

That doesn't mean that I consider the port as poor or unacceptable. The port is good, very good but it sure could use some performance boost.

Also the Feral developers are very active and helpful everywhere that I look.

They have a fix in beta patch for crashing after the end of the mission when you are using VPN or ppp0 or other interface which doesn't have MAC address. It only took them two weeks since the first people reported the issue on Steam forums.

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Quoting: wolfyrion...
Lets say they release Serious Sam 4 or Half-Life 3(cough) --- the game is crashing and freezing in windows but is performing amazing in Linux. Windows Users are frustrated from Valve.....
Valve responds about crashing & freezes on windows "Get a real OS switch to Linux"

You made my day!
Sadly, this is real only in parallel universe (yet).

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I think I will mourn for joy

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Haven't received a survey for a long long time. Pressed 'No, Thanks' yesterday :D Why? I decided to play Assetto Corsa on windows. Such luck :D

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I've created a stupid package for ArchLinux (game-develop-deb).
You can try it via AUR...
Anyway I'm almost a noob in packaging, so some things may not work or be buggy...

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"Linux users typically shy away from any form of DRM, so you can bet there is a large bunch of Linux users who just simply refuse to use Steam."
I don't see how this is of any relevance to anything since the topic here is Linux share of Steam users.
To put it this way; There's plenty of Windows users out there who don't use Steam too - but that's just as irrelevant.

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Windows 7 64 bit
49.41%
-1.12%

Windows 8.1 64 bit
16.19%
+0.85%

People dont even bother to switch to another OS for the sake of another OS.
Actually what most people doing is using their OS as a launcher.

I have a friend that is fanatic with Battlefied 4 he has 2 icons only on his desktop Firefox and BF4 nothing else is installed.
People are going to switch to Linux if and only one AAA Game is performing better than Windows and is a must have game at that time. Call it Battlefield 6 , CoD6, Fifa 2017 etc.

I predict a sabotage from Valve :P

Lets say they release Serious Sam 4 or Half-Life 3(cough) --- the game is crashing and freezing in windows but is performing amazing in Linux. Windows Users are frustrated from Valve.....
Valve responds about crashing & freezes on windows "Get a real OS switch to Linux"

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There are no significant increase yet, even CS:GO will not improve situation in numbers... There are should be hardware pushing with Ubuntu/Debian preinstalled, only then may be...

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Quoting: BestiaOne guy posted screenshots comparing Windows (124 fps) and Linux (43 fps).

Others have highlighted that this could be an edge case rather than the norm, but even if it wasn't, 43fps is still more than playable, and it's better to view that as being "room for improvement" that we can use to positively encourage further development rather than being unacceptable or a poor job.

I don't know what kind of existing Linux experience Feral Interactive had or brought onboard for the project, but as a first port from the studio, it's pretty positive IMO.

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I have gotten the Hardware survey 6 or 7 times now using Manjaro. In that time I also got it 2 or 3 times on the Windows side of one of my laptops. I think you are more likely to get the survey consistently if you always take it on whatever OS you are currently using.

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Good news!

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id usually not do this but.. stay away from this one. its rubbish.
you may think when you see this "nazi dinosaurs vs the allies" oh
that sounds like some fun...
its a little partygag that has very poor gameplay. imagine left4dead versus
and natural selection stripped down to the bare minimums, awkyard collision,
mouse input, poor maps in like their early alpha stages and you got this game.

as a free sourcemod this would be an "ok" download just to experience steering
a dinosaur for once (not satisfying tho cuz badly done). but paying money, let
alone 20€? nope, not worth it at all.
on another note i find it kinda questionable that the nazis are all cool here
and everyone wants to be them while the allies are boring as f***

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Quoting: sakurazukahttp://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/45622295.jpg

At least to Europe.

Yep, I'm in Europe too (Portugal) and its a bit pricey :S .

But in June's indie box it was tagged in the shipping post office box that it costed 15$, while in the subscription we add 13$ for international shipping so maybe they are cutting they profits to make up the international users.

Also the promo codes work on the full price, (S/W included), so the early Reddit's 20% off got me a good deal. So far there was also a June 10% and a E3 15% off codes.

I had to stop my subscription 'till I have the financial security with a new job, but I'm sure loving the last games :D

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