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It's really sad.

Honestly I do not get why companies think that someone saying "I got paid to preview this game by this company" is somehow a bad thing. Guys, you wanted him to have a look at it, write about it and compensated for his time.

As long as the article is not a blatant "buy me, buy me" ad, it's all fine.

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@OZSeaford Witcher2 was lately pulled off steam for linux again - no linux support and no content download anymore.

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Hmm, maybe you could try setting a different download mirror in the Steam options?

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Quoting: liamdaweI won't be bugging companies to release sources

You really should do that, though. :P

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Quoting: maokei

Quoting: BdMdesigN

Quoting: No SecurityValve like's ignoring security feature's on Linux first SElinux now this how soon before Hackers take Aim at SteamOS SteamOS may end up being insecure Like Windows....
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/steamuniverse/discussions/1/558751364755076566/#c558752449797254245

You are aware that the SteamOS is BETA software and Valve must first advance the Graphical optimization?
You are also aware that the Debian, all technical safety matters brings?
You are also aware, that's not two quietly required SElinux and there is also a substitute for it?

Correct me if Im wrong but the fixed the SELinux problemnot long ago.

Yep - https://github.com/ValveSoftware/portal2/issues/50#issuecomment-36927497. This was closed out about a month ago.

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I just bought BS2 over the weekend via the Steam sale but sadly the game isn't available in my neck of the woods. When I try to download the game it doesn't download anything.

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Well, the game cant run on Arch Linux so ... no fun for me yet :(

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I am not complaining about the other projects not having the source code from the original games *sigh* and I think you know that already.

I was saying it's not fair to the projects that didn't have the source code to start off with. They should have been in different voting polls to be fair to them, that is just my opinion. I didn't get a say in it either due to communication issues I didn't even know there were discussions on the projects being included.

Also, this argument is so boring it's unreal, I am not an open-source zealot, so no I won't be bugging companies to release sources. If you want to go right ahead, now move on from this argument I have made my point.

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Quoting: liamdaweIt is completely unfair to have projects like Arx in with projects like OpenXcom which is the point, Arx had the entire source code from the official developers handed out, it's in a league of its own.

I wasn't complaining about being pedantic, I like having a good attention to details. My point was made earlier, it's not right for it to be in a list with projects that started with nothing.

I got that, but where is it unfair? It is still a lot of work to port the code, or do you think you just fire up the compiler and it is done?

Sure they didn't have to start from scratch, but the games are released as Open Source, and that is what counts.

I didn't say that you are complaining about being pedantic. What I ment is that if you are complaining about that the other projects didn't have the source from the "original" game, then please go and complain to the company which holds the source without releasing it.

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Quoting: BdMdesigN

Quoting: No SecurityValve like's ignoring security feature's on Linux first SElinux now this how soon before Hackers take Aim at SteamOS SteamOS may end up being insecure Like Windows....
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/steamuniverse/discussions/1/558751364755076566/#c558752449797254245

You are aware that the SteamOS is BETA software and Valve must first advance the Graphical optimization?
You are also aware that the Debian, all technical safety matters brings?
You are also aware, that's not two quietly required SElinux and there is also a substitute for it?

Correct me if Im wrong but the fixed the SELinux problemnot long ago.

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Quoting: Open Source

Quoting: Heimdall

Quoting: liamdawe

Quoting: HeimdallArx and Doomsday shouldn't be on there as they benefited from the source release of their games. The rest were built from the ground up.

I agree, but annoyingly I was told I was being "pedantic" by another site owner who is also an award supporter.

Well there is a big difference being given a basically finished project with Arx source and building a new engine from scratch a la CaesarIA and OpenMW. If that is pedantic, then so be it. I think they are belittling the achievement that the OpenMW people have achieved thus far.

Not to say that the Arx Liberal is project isn't cool. I love Arx and am glad they printed it to Linux. They just didn't have to do much work themselves, that was Arkane.

So what? They have had it easier. If that is your point then you are PEDANTIC. At the end it is Open Source and thats what counts.

If you want to complain, then complain to the companies which doesn't release the source for their games.

It is completely unfair to have projects like Arx in with projects like OpenXcom which is the point, Arx had the entire source code from the official developers handed out, it's in a league of its own.

I wasn't complaining about being pedantic, I like having a good attention to details. My point was made earlier, it's not right for it to be in a list with projects that started with nothing.

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Quoting: Heimdall

Quoting: liamdawe

Quoting: HeimdallArx and Doomsday shouldn't be on there as they benefited from the source release of their games. The rest were built from the ground up.

I agree, but annoyingly I was told I was being "pedantic" by another site owner who is also an award supporter.

Well there is a big difference being given a basically finished project with Arx source and building a new engine from scratch a la CaesarIA and OpenMW. If that is pedantic, then so be it. I think they are belittling the achievement that the OpenMW people have achieved thus far.

Not to say that the Arx Liberal is project isn't cool. I love Arx and am glad they printed it to Linux. They just didn't have to do much work themselves, that was Arkane.

So what? They have had it easier. If that is your point then you are PEDANTIC. At the end it is Open Source and thats what counts.

If you want to complain, then complain to the companies which doesn't release the source for their games.

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QuoteI just hope we aren't all putting too much faith in Valve, Steam Machines could fail hard.

I think that Valve it's very important for the Linux Gaming Comunity, for sure, and it's pushing Linux very hard, but the entire ecosystem it's changed, now we have very important game Engine and not only the Steam support, a lot of cool things for Linux comes from kickstarter, and many developers will see a profitable way to support Linux as well.

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I just switched from Ubuntu 13.10 to 14.04 final beta. I couldn't wait anymore. 64 bit applications, including Steam were a mess on 13.10 when they decided to stop users installing 32bit libraries on 64bit.

Seems to be fine in 14.04 64 bit now, all my games/programs are stable again. Valve should stop counting differentiating Ubuntu versions as different distros, I notice 14.04 isn't counted in the March 2014 stats.


Anyway, what I was going to say is that I have noticed linux has reached a point where the programs/games you can install it make all the difference for "noob" users who want to get off Windows XP and hate Windows 8.
I've been doing my best to make "noob friendly" installations and setups of linux for people, I can say I've easily done 40 desktops/laptops now.

If everyone does this for people they know, that can be the tipping point for making linux mainstream. Never has linux had the opportunity it has had like right now, users, don't miss this opportunity! Help spread linux! Show your friends how to use it!

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Quoting: hardpenguinI really dislike this border being set between AAA and indie. It is constantly changing to the favor of indie games, however how can one be this limited to play only AAA games? Because superior graphics?

This is not only about graphics, but also the amount of content, polish, playability… It’s the difference between Ravensword and Gothic, for example.

Exactly! But to me it often works in the other directon. There are plenty of high-budget games which are easy to finish in like 4 hours. And so many low-budget (indie?) games with tons of content and/or good replayablity (like Dungeons of Dredmor, FTL)

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Quoting: No SecurityValve like's ignoring security feature's on Linux first SElinux now this how soon before Hackers take Aim at SteamOS SteamOS may end up being insecure Like Windows....
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/steamuniverse/discussions/1/558751364755076566/#c558752449797254245

You are aware that the SteamOS is BETA software and Valve must first advance the Graphical optimization?
You are also aware that the Debian, all technical safety matters brings?
You are also aware, that's not two quietly required SElinux and there is also a substitute for it?

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Quoting: GuestThis made me look at the Two Worlds 2 reviews on Steam and it doesn’t look like the greater game ever, especially because of their intrusive DRM…

TW2 is a good game, with a bit disappointing ending. at least in original, 1/2 of the map was still undiscovered when game suddenly went into last very short arc. and no way back was a bummer too. game basically ended as best described with quote "surprise mf, it's the end"

but, i really liked TW2 multiplayer. well, at least until card stacking (glitch with more than 3 cards for spell) mages didn't show up. like mage class wasn't OP before

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it's smart business decision. people always go for new releases and they probably hope that time will see most new users which will need games.

i know i would do that

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CRYENGINE emerge from steam database :O

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Valve should really just have the Steam client auto-send this info at sign-in, with an option to opt out. Then the data would be more complete and have a larger base, and all the conspiracy theories could stop.

For what it's worth, I've seen the survey only one time. It was under Linux, too. I've never seen the survey in the Windows or Mac clients, since I stopped using Windows and Wine before Steam even existed and never owned a Mac.

Quoting: TeodosioOnce Steam machines are out I think that figure will insta-jump to 5% at least... and it will keep growing steadily from there.

Does the survey even pop up in Big Picture / SteamOS mode? If not, that figure won't budge much at all.

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Quoting: ImantsWe do not have anything else to put our trust into. So if Valve fails our dreams fails with it :)

Have some faith in 'ol Tux, yeah? :P

I've only been using Linux for +1 years, but in that time people have went on about Ubuntu being central to Linux (gaming) advancing; the Humble Bundle/indie devs being central to Linux gaming advancing; and now indeed Steam being the sole force.

And while Steam has been the biggest push yet, it hasn't been the only force behind our momentum. Soon GOG, Unreal, Cryengine, and who knows what else will keep us accelerating.

Not to say I would let your guard down completely. I remember being quite suspicious of Canonical when I began seeing "download for Ubuntu" buttons around when they were distancing themselves from Linux. And indeed this SteamOS branding could be troublesome as well. But we'll cross that bridge when we come to it :)

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Quote...and it does beg the question

Raises the question?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question

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Valve like's ignoring security feature's on Linux first SElinux now this how soon before Hackers take Aim at SteamOS SteamOS may end up being insecure Like Windows....
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/steamuniverse/discussions/1/558751364755076566/#c558752449797254245

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http://store.steampowered.com/search/?os=linux&category1=998
Showing 1 - 25 of 378

This list is actual games without the other 500ish video's and crap.

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I really dislike this border being set between AAA and indie. It is constantly changing to the favor of indie games, however how can one be this limited to play only AAA games? Because superior graphics? Even if patterns of those games are all repetitive? You can grab nice 2D title instead and have really looong hours of fun.

Games are games. People should choose fun ones instead of those that are most visually appealing.

But I guess GOL readers already know it :)

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Second asds thought. Most of it is a live/CGI mixture, not in-game graphics.

And by the footage you can only vagely guess, what this game is all about..

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Quoting: ImantsWe do not have anything else to put our trust into. So if Valve fails our dreams fails with it :)

The great thing about the recent Linux gaming boom is that it is not actually being driven by only one developer or vendor this time - this is not like the first Linux gaming boom of the late 1990's and early 2000's that was entirely dependant on the success of Loki Software.

Valve are a major player in the Linux gaming scene sure, but they are hardly the only people involved in this, and things were heating up long before the Linux Steam release. To say that if Valve falls we fall to is actually rather churlish.

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Quoting: jdubSince when is M&B AAA?

Have they even speculated on porting it?

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Maybe individual devs who lack confidence in Linux for various reasons are doing this of their own volition, but I really doubt that Valve is pushing for this. Perhaps certain devs/pubs don't WANT to officially support Linux as a whole, but rather only SteamOS. That's the only way it makes sense they would wait for the Steam Machine retail launch. Why push out a game for a platform that isn't out [at retail] yet?

Anyone who seriously thinks Valve is pushing for this needs to get their heads examined. Go watch the Steam Dev Days talks, or any other recent interviews with Gabe. They seem proud that the Linux game number is exploding and it's clear that they're pushing Linux hard, even beyond their own distro.

If you really believe Valve are behind this, tell me again how years-old second-rate games like Two Worlds 2 will make a compelling launch title for $500+ living room PCs? When crafting your answer, please factor into it that games like Two Worlds 2, XCOM, and Counter Strike all came out 2-3 years ago on $200 PlayStation 3s and anyone who REALLY wants to play them already has.

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Since when is M&B AAA?

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