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(...) Xbox 360 - PS4 (...) Does somebody else sees what is wrong here? Why they support PS4 and no Xbox one?

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I really want to see this project finished. I think that the game concept is very original. I want to see soon a gameplay videos

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I´m following this project two weeks. We should do more pressure showing our interest in this port (in the source link

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At the end of Supported platforms list

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Why is linux at the end? Ths is discrimination. :D Just kidding

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I've been trying to beat Mega Man on a NES emulator this week, and if the platforming is similar I'd say I almost dread the coming of this game. Mind, I'm still going to play it ;)

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Quoting: the futureif partnering with Facebook

No, stop right there. They are not "partnering" with Facebook; that's PR bullshit. They have been bought by Facebook.

Facebook has no obligation to keep the team together, to keep doing Oculus stuff, to do anything. For all we know, they just bought Oculus to get hire the team (and/or especialyl Carmack). They have done that in the past, they bought companies and then moved the people to work on Facebook; the service the original company provided ceased to exist.

And even if they keep the team working on VR, there's no reason to assume it'll be anywhere near what the original Oculus Rift mission was. In fact, it would be damn right naive to assume that.

Quoting: the futurehelps them out then we need to give them the chance to prove this was the correct decision.

From a cynical, capitalistic perspective, this might have been the correct decision. The people at Oculus made a quick buck, the original Kickstarter supported and developers be damned.

Quoting: the futurehttp://www.gamespot.com/articles/why-you-shouldn-t-worry-about-facebook-buying-oculus-rift/1100-6418545/

Yes, just like what was said for, for example, Beluga, which, oh wonder, was shut down a few months later when the original team was moved to work on Facebook Messenger.

It's like everyone has amnesia or something. Just look at what great new stuff they created after they aquired Storylane; or drop.io. What, nothing, you say? Oh, right.

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Part of or a full quote it doesn't matter, the only other text in that bit was "this linux fps freebie" so no I haven't taken you out of context.

A game is something you get as a whole package and it runs.

A mod is something that requires another engine to run it, what you linked to is a mod.

Really Rusty you are going to carry this on? Just drop it this is pointless. I have no idea why you are banging on about something so trivial.

If you keep commenting and derailing this further, I will just delete the comments.

Picking a fight with me over a minor detail and then telling me to remove your account quite frankly is rather childish.

It was a comment to simply state why I didn't personally include it in my list and my thoughts on it. How that turned into you berating me about it I have no idea. That is how discussions generally work.

I am so confused as to why you are so upset by me simply stating why I didn't include it *sigh*

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Quoting: liamdawe

Quoting: RustyboltsIts still a game...why be clever? I didnt say it should of been in your list it was just discussion and was just listing another game people may be interested in.

Well...

QuoteNo one ever mentions...

Seemed like you did want it to be in the list.

Also not being "clever", just point it out, it isn't a game, it is a game-pack for another engine, not a game in itself.

Quoting: liamdawe

Quoting: RustyboltsIts still a game...why be clever? I didnt say it should of been in your list it was just discussion and was just listing another game people may be interested in.

Well...

QuoteNo one ever mentions...

Seemed like you did want it to be in the list.

Also not being "clever", just point it out, it isn't a game, it is a game-pack for another engine, not a game in itself.

I'm sorry but you have part quoted me, and taken me out of context.

Many games are just content using an existing engine see valves source games
Anyways just remove my account i'm done here!

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People are quick to jump to conclusion and this is ok.
But we must also understand that we still have to weight for things to play out, the real world is not in the past or all in speculation its whats happening now. so we must weight and see whats happening.
I would have loved them to do it independently with ought Facebook but if partnering with Facebook helps them out then we need to give them the chance to prove this was the correct decision.

Here is another article i came across in my research read it and look at some of the things they say.
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/why-you-shouldn-t-worry-about-facebook-buying-oculus-rift/1100-6418545/

as much as i like this sight and the posts it is one sided to make a decision onthis you must look at different sites and view points.

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Quoting: RustyboltsIts still a game...why be clever? I didnt say it should of been in your list it was just discussion and was just listing another game people may be interested in.

Well...

QuoteNo one ever mentions...

Seemed like you did want it to be in the list.

Also not being "clever", just point it out, it isn't a game, it is a game-pack for another engine, not a game in itself.

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Quoting: liamdawe

Quoting: RustyboltsLove Doom? No one ever mentions this linux fps freebie

Well freedoom isn't actually a game, it is a game-pack for an open-source engine, this post was for full games.

Its still a game...why be clever? I didnt say it should of been in your list, it was just discussion listing another game people may be interested in.

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Companies are all after the money they need to make them profitable, some may seem more ethical than the others but the money is the only thing that matters in the end. Was the original owner better than Facebook? It seems it wasn't.

I look forward to this kind of devices, whether it is through Facebook, or any other company or community project.

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I replied to it, basically until their newer client is out, just visit Desura in your browser.

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Quoting: loggfreakrazer responded to notch 'perhaps we can help out. Will be in touch.'
https://twitter.com/minliangtan/status/448606945272803328
so now there's going to be a VR-headset thats overhyped AND overpriced, were all doomed

Don't forget bright green.

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Lapinopl: You should launch GameLinux not ExeLinux ! ;)

Many thanks CorvusE and maokei! :D

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As someone who has been following the Snowden leaks closely, i'm very concerned.
Facebook has been given the NSA a blank check to access user content, facebook users might as well send all of their information straight to nsa.gov. I don't think that letting the NSA monitor your pupils and scan your Iris is a good idea. Apart from privacy issues, there's Facebook's blatant patent trolling; They will no doubt stifle innovation in the VR sphere with their army of lawyers.
This is bad news all around

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Quoting: scaineSounds like we came at from different expectation. You were hyped and left disappointed. I was sceptical and left hyped.

We agree that the initial version didn't cut it. Poor resolution and a tiny, but noticable, lag

Definitely; I had to cut your quote there though as I don't agree with the last bit.

Quoting: scaineRemember Wolfenstein for the first time? Remember how, despite the ridiculously poor graphics, you still felt that this, right here, was a game changer? Then Doom came along. Then Hexen, Quake, Half Life and the rest is history. That's the journey the Rift started.

I remember all of them really quite well -- but I don't ever remember thinking at the time that they were not "amazing" in all aspects. When Half-Life came out, genuinely thought the graphics were the most immersive, the gameplay the most revolutionary and the story the most enthralling. Doom and Wolfenstein were both a bit before my proper comprehension of what I was doing, they were just good fun and better than the kids games I had at the time (and my first foray into unoffical Amiga Ports as well!). The Rift, after first use, left me with a "meh" feeling. Much like every other "Virtual Reality" device I've ever tried.

I don't see it as the future. I see burning images directly into our retinas as the more probably future. The Rift might be a stepping stone for some, but I just don't think the current concept is ever going to take off the same way using a mouse, or a gamepad has.

Ah well, each to their own.

Quoting: scaineBut succeed or fail, I'm most pissed about the damage they've done to Kickstarter. Pledges on Kickstarter don't give you any leverage, but the engagement and communication give you the illusion of leverage. OR has destroyed that now. No one will trust a hardware-based kickstarter after this. No one with any sense that is.

Yeah -- I can agree with that. I've actually been disappointed with most of the 99 kickstarter campaigns I've backed. Either through lack of a Linux port (ala 7d2d), or just uninspiring gameplay (Liam will no doubt kick me for saying this, but Planetary Annihilation).

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Quoting: scainePledges on Kickstarter don't give you any leverage, but the engagement and communication give you the illusion of leverage. OR has destroyed that now. No one will trust a hardware-based kickstarter after this. No one with any sense that is.

To be honest, right now its getting harder to trust start-ups/indie games in general that get acquired. A few years ago 'Ace of Spades' was a windows/mac/Linux game which was only in 0.3 but rocked because it was 'Minecraft with Battlefield'. Jagex marched in and remade it and made a REAL mess of it. It cost £6-10 and I believe its only on Windows. So yeah, why do people bother with Kickstarters if they just go onto making deals and pretty much making the kickstarters seem worthless.

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Quoting: edgley

Quoting: scaineIf you ever got a chance to try it, you'd understand. It's fundamentally a new experience. Really, really game-changing. I was same - very sceptical. Then I tried it and if I'd had $300 there and then, I'd have bought one. Simple as that. It's that amazing.

Or rather, it /will be/ that amazing, because there are still a few kinks to iron out.

I wouldn't agree with that. Tried it for long enough to know that I really don't care for it; it's a gimmick more than anything else. Your hands are still tied to some controller and you're sitting down, so the immersion is immediately removed.

I know the "release" versions were expected to be better, but the quality of the screens was also difficult to adjust to, all I could ever see was scan lines and the awkward FOV (that was either too narrow or too warped).

I was really hyped before I tried it out -- though fortunately, I didn't actually invest in it.

Sounds like we came at from different expectation. You were hyped and left disappointed. I was sceptical and left hyped.

We agree that the initial version didn't cut it. Poor resolution and a tiny, but noticable, lag made the experience just short of "immersive". But that will change.

Remember Wolfenstein for the first time? Remember how, despite the ridiculously poor graphics, you still felt that this, right here, was a game changer? Then Doom came along. Then Hexen, Quake, Half Life and the rest is history. That's the journey the Rift started.

But succeed or fail, I'm most pissed about the damage they've done to Kickstarter. Pledges on Kickstarter don't give you any leverage, but the engagement and communication give you the illusion of leverage. OR has destroyed that now. No one will trust a hardware-based kickstarter after this. No one with any sense that is.

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Quoting: edgley

Quoting: scaineIf you ever got a chance to try it, you'd understand. It's fundamentally a new experience. Really, really game-changing. I was same - very sceptical. Then I tried it and if I'd had $300 there and then, I'd have bought one. Simple as that. It's that amazing.

Or rather, it /will be/ that amazing, because there are still a few kinks to iron out.

I wouldn't agree with that. Tried it for long enough to know that I really don't care for it; it's a gimmick more than anything else. Your hands are still tied to some controller and you're sitting down, so the immersion is immediately removed.

I know the "release" versions were expected to be better, but the quality of the screens was also difficult to adjust to, all I could ever see was scan lines and the awkward FOV (that was either too narrow or too warped).

I was really hyped before I tried it out -- though fortunately, I didn't actually invest in it.

I have to completely disagree, I loved every second of using it, but I respect your opinion.

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It could be that porting the game to any platform other than the original helps with most other ports because the code has to be cleaned up and made more generally portable. Of course there is also the possibility that they had to make it work with OpengGL or some other more universal library for the Wii version, and that is also available for Linux and OS X.

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Quoting: RWSGOG, Mac and Linux owners - we've not forgotten you. It's our focus after workshop to get you the updates. Now with 90% less bugs!

https://twitter.com/RWSPOSTAL/statuses/447110299590852608

They also now have a Postal 2 Humble Widget, although for the moment at least it is just another Steam storefront:
http://runningwithscissors.com/main/index.php?topic=1833

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This acquisition opens up the space for someone else to step in. I really can't imagine where Facebook's goals and those of OR's early adopters overlap in any way, so these people will surely be looking for alternatives now.

As someone above said though, this could be a major blow to Kickstarter and similar platforms. Reading comments on the web, it seems that quite a number of backers are wondering "can they even do this?", suggesting they thought they had gained some form of control over Oculus with their backing. Obviously this isn't the case, however people might have perceived it that way, so if this reality about Kickstarter starts sinking in to more and more people's minds, crowdfunding will probably see a major reduction in spending. Currently it seems people see it like an investment while in reality it is only a pre-order scheme.

Concerning the OR headset, I'm still quite bummed about this news though. So much potential now going to waste...

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Quoting: scaineIf you ever got a chance to try it, you'd understand. It's fundamentally a new experience. Really, really game-changing. I was same - very sceptical. Then I tried it and if I'd had $300 there and then, I'd have bought one. Simple as that. It's that amazing.

Or rather, it /will be/ that amazing, because there are still a few kinks to iron out.

I wouldn't agree with that. Tried it for long enough to know that I really don't care for it; it's a gimmick more than anything else. Your hands are still tied to some controller and you're sitting down, so the immersion is immediately removed.

I know the "release" versions were expected to be better, but the quality of the screens was also difficult to adjust to, all I could ever see was scan lines and the awkward FOV (that was either too narrow or too warped).

I was really hyped before I tried it out -- though fortunately, I didn't actually invest in it.

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How sad!

“It is easier to forgive an enemy than to forgive a (facebook)friend.”
― William Blake

“Et tu, Brute?”
― William Shakespeare, Julius Caesar

Hamlet:
I did love you once.
Ophelia:
Indeed, my lord, you made me believe so.
Hamlet:
You should not have believ'd me, for virtue cannot so
inoculate our old stock but we shall relish of it. I lov'd you not.
Ophelia:
I was the more deceiv'd.

One of the products I was waiting for with anticipation, trepidation and awe.

I was imagining that I would one day be able to immerse myself completely in fantastic digital worlds like never before, a sort of oracle on the verge of . But no, I shall be logging into FB to play Farmville 3D.

Pffff

PS - am really sorry for the people who invested in the Occulus kickstarter, just feeding the giant, as if FB needed cash. Interesting to note that as far as I am aware FaceBook did not even kickstart it, so much for their interest in seed companies.

Facebook them!

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I know why they made this move since most of their team dreams of bringing Snow Crash to life and Facebook has everything they need to make a huge virtual social space like that a reality.

But I don't trust Facebook with my information and certainly wouldn't trust living in a virtual world of their creation. This also burnt any bridges they had with the community that had supported them up until this point.

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I would try and order Oculus Rift as soon as it'd come out but not anymore. Facebook is nothing but a greedy corporation. What makes this news even worse is that the founder of Oculus says Facebook are "champions of open hardware and software". There's no recovering from the pile of crap Oculus is in now.

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Found something about Zuckerberg. https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Mark_Zuckerberg

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You may like VR or not, I think it will have a huge impact in the future (not only for gaming). So I was quite optimistic about support for Valves Steam Machines and Linux. Now that everyone is disappointed by this move and withdraw their support it may play into Sonys hands for their PS4 VR device which probably won't be available for Steam Machines.. So I hope that Valve continues to make their own device now

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