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Quoting: Projectile VomitYep- try not to miss your posts. I admit, I'm a game hoarder- and I'm cheap! I LOVE sales on games. I'm pretty sure I could use a 12 step program, but then you'd have one less psycho Linux gamer to cater to. We can't have that, now, can we?

Certainly not! :D

Quoting: Mike FrettSee, I read it. ^_^ Question, the Amazon's site only lists Mac and Windows, do they give you a Steam key or something?.

Yep, just make sure that the sale in question has the text [Online Game Code] in its name (and that it's a Steam code! I think I saw a couple of games with other types of keys).

DISCLAIMER: I've never bought a single game in Amazon.com, but still you can tell by the download size (Steam key-only games are usually a 4kB or so download)

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See, I read it. ^_^ Question, the Amazon's site only lists Mac and Windows, do they give you a Steam key or something?.

Edit: Goodness, we keep bumping into each other lol

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...and thank you again, Mike. I now see the error of my impatience with Paranautical Activity. :)

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Yep- try not to miss your posts. I admit, I'm a game hoarder- and I'm cheap! I LOVE sales on games. I'm pretty sure I could use a 12 step program, but then you'd have one less psycho Linux gamer to cater to. We can't have that, now, can we?

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Quoting: muntdefemsI see you two are not The Cheapskate's Corner regulars, are you? :><: :P

Oh goodness yes, but my memory span doesn't go back that far. :D

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I read Cheapskate's Corner, but that's not to say I may have missed an article or even a paragraph (my attention span isn't the greatest, unfortunately). There have been many time that I caught an indie sale because of Cheapskate's Corner :)


I also check Indie Game Stand every few days to see what they've got going on. That's how I recently landed Paranautical Activity and Snorms together :)

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I see you two are not The Cheapskate's Corner regulars, are you? :><: :P

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Okay, cool! I'll give it another shot. Thanks, Mike :)

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Quoting: Projectile VomitBought it, but haven't been able to get it to run past the "play/quit" screen. It locks up.

Me too, on Reddit they said they don't have a loading screen yet and it's not actually locked up. They said give it a few minutes to load. On my Xubuntu I thought it was locked and hit ESC and that exited the game, so you know. =)

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Bought it, but haven't been able to get it to run past the "play/quit" screen. It locks up.

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I have it on desura, its pretty fun. I feel sorry for what steam did to them.

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I spread the word. I'd buy it (or maybe I will and donate it) but my arthritis pretty much halts my ability to enjoy a FPS heh. What the heck is wrong with Steam. It looks awesome though, the green lighting on those skulls freak me out.

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Quoting: liamdaweDon't get me wrong I know Valve has had an effect on games but I was talking more user base, I still doubt Linux's share has increased much at all from Valve's efforts, I believe it can change and will but not seeing it yet.

It seems my comment here has been skipped over by everyone. :'( Or is it that it wasn't clear enough? These stats I was poiting out are as substantial as can be, showing the direct impact of Steam's arrival on Linux and it's big.

No it's just I have 0% trust in those counters. As you look at another counter and it gives you a totally different result.

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Quoting: liamdaweDon't get me wrong I know Valve has had an effect on games but I was talking more user base, I still doubt Linux's share has increased much at all from Valve's efforts, I believe it can change and will but not seeing it yet.

It seems my comment here has been skipped over by everyone. :'( Or is it that it wasn't clear enough? These stats I was poiting out are as substantial as can be, showing the direct impact of Steam's arrival on Linux and it's big.

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Quoting: oddworldincNo one can deny the emergency of Linux gaming. Since Steam was released for Ubuntu, companies have been watching carefully. One HUGE factor in deciding to port to Linux is that Unity3D makes it very easy to port to lots of platforms.

What exactly do companies watch for in Steam? Is it the monthly hardware survey?

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I've been waiting for this one, looks good. I wonder if they'll have it ready by next month, that would surely light my Fireworks.

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My interest is piqued. Will there be a demo?

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Looks a lot like Stronghold: Crusader (but with magic)! It was the first RTS I ever played, and still one of my all-time favourites. :D

If this turns out good and similar to Stronghold, it will be a must-buy for me.

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No one can deny the emergency of Linux gaming. Since Steam was released for Ubuntu, companies have been watching carefully. One HUGE factor in deciding to port to Linux is that Unity3D makes it very easy to port to lots of platforms.

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Quoting: SpeedsterMuntdefems, how would one provide updates for next week's article?

Seeing that you've got an account here at GOL, I guess the easiest way would be to send them via PM to me.

About the column's format, it's clear that I cannot cater to everyone's wishes so I'll do what I feel best. Speedster is right: while I'm not at all burnt out, I didn't particularly enjoy writing this column. I don't know if it shows or not, but I'd rather write about less games (let's say 10 games tops, including both Biggies and Hidden Gems) and enjoy doing so.

So yes, I'd really appreciate Speedster taking care of the updates section every week so I can concentrate on micro-reviewing new projects. Are you up to it?


PS: I totally forgot to post on the wiki thread in the forum! I'm on it now... :O

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SD -- we may need to wait for a sample of the new format to see whether is as good from a reader perspective, but it sounded to me as though Muntdefems may be courting burn-out by providing the nice summaries on all the new games rather than focusing on the ones he most cares about, so regardless of better/worse judgments... it may not be sustainable.

"So I usually end up spending a lot of time struggling to write paragraphs about games that I don't really care that much anyway. And, more often than not, at the expense of sleeping hours"

Muntdefems, how would one provide updates for next week's article?

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I'm really not sure at all that Munt should change the format.  What is being suggested is to cover more projects (including in-progress updates) with less text.  I'm not at all fond of the idea of a highly tabular version of The Funding Crowd.  Right now, despite his reservations regarding English language usage, his writing has personality and a definite "voice".  Yes, there is the occasional idiosyncratic usage, but this simply adds flavour (if you will) to the article.

I guess I'm saying... I feel it could worsen a pretty awesome regular column.  Also, I said "loose convention", not "guideline".  My intention was not to contribute to the "slump", which we are all too familiar with, rather to encourage in-depth coverage during that period of slow funding.  If someone wants to take a stab at a long-format article, then they should do so.  Armikrog (for example) has put forth all sorts of new and lovely imagery, as well as nifty tidbits from several interviews.  Speedster's introductory article was a good summary (complete with bullet points), but had no graphical content in the article itself, so there's an opportunity for something a bit more detailed.  I suppose... now that I've offered up that idea, it's probably on me to perform a bit of wordsmithing...

Anyway, aside from community assistance (which solves many problems), I'd rather Munt's time be spent less on tracking individual previously-covered projects' status, and instead on continuing to craft the nice summary paragraphs that we've enjoyed on the column.

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Quoting: berarmaBefore that, some developers were saying it was a bad platform for games, now we don't hear that anymore. Money rules when it comes to COMMERCIAL games.

Well, we definitely still hear that from some developers, such as "triple-A" published studios.  There are also indies who are still unhappy with us (Jonathan Blow complains a lot, Tommy Refenes of Team Meat has made pretty insulting statements in the past, and of course, Garry Newman most recently).  But, yeah, it's becoming less vocal.

What really warms the cockles of my heart is when non-Linux users come to our defence. I've recently become close (well, "Internet-close" anyway) to quite a few fellow crowd-funding enthusiasts, and they have pushed for Linux stretch goals on my behalf.  Of course, my obligation, when that happens, is to try to raise hell in our community to show a strong response!

These folks are both Mac gamers, and Windows gamers, and when it comes to crowd-funding, they've seen how passionate and dedicated we are.  Heck, the SpaceVenture and Hero-U campaigns (spiritual successors to Space Quest and Quest for Glory) nearly killed me...

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Quoting: liamdaweDon't get me wrong I know Valve has had an effect on games but I was talking more user base, I still doubt Linux's share has increased much at all from Valve's efforts, I believe it can change and will but not seeing it yet.

Now, that I agree with. It's so difficult to really see what affect Steam on Linux has had on the user base. It's undoubtedly had a far more significant effect on the developers that much of anything else.

How ironic is it that Linux's freedom is a key attractor to closed-source game developers? In this case, it's the freedom to sell a game any way you want without a gatekeeper or official app store. Of course, that is for direct-sales only, but the the other two OS's are (poorly) attempting to discourage side-loading of software. It's incredibly strange for me to even consider the term "side-load" when referring to PC software, yet that is where things are slowly headed, it seems.

QuotePersonally I of course hope we keep growing after all GOL's success depends on people using Linux heh. I am hoping our new design will help keep us going since near enough everything will be better on it! Makes us much more up to date that's for sure!

Oh, yes, I totally agree. Recall that one drawback of the current design is deficiencies when rendered on non-tablet mobile devices. The new design is quite slick for small screens, and also attractive for large screens. Of course, there is no design in the world that can compete with great content, so that will need to be the focus!

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Nice game. I'm already waiting for it.

I don't think anything has had such a big influence as numbers (money), and HIB showed the numbers favoring GNU/Linux. Before that, some developers were saying it was a bad platform for games, now we don't hear that anymore. Money rules when it comes to COMMERCIAL games.

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Don't get me wrong I know Valve has had an effect on games but I was talking more user base, I still doubt Linux's share has increased much at all from Valve's efforts, I believe it can change and will but not seeing it yet.

Also Gameolith FYI was a Linux only store to begin with but went over to Windows and Mac (most likely due to lack of sales).

Personally I of course hope we keep growing after all GOL's success depends on people using Linux heh. I am hoping our new design will help keep us going since near enough everything will be better on it! Makes us much more up to date that's for sure!

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Quoting: SpeedsterLet us know if there does turn out to be some way in which others can assist you.

Sure! If anyone is very excited about a particular campaign and wants to send me a little write-up about it, I'll gladly accept it and add it to the next column. ^_^

About the wiki itself, there may be a couple of things I'd appreciate being helped on... But to avoid going off-topic I'll write about it later in the corresponding thread in the forum.

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Man!  An actual Oddworld game, with a native port... I'm beside myself :D

Mrs. S.D. also really enjoyed this game, back in the Oddysee days, anyway.  I do believe I'll be able to get her playing it with me, eventually.  I've lots of good memories with this title (well, the original), especially playing on the sofa with friends.  I miss that experience!  Though, I do occasionally play Frozen Bubble with my daughter, sitting on the couch (she's getting better at it!), and it's still fun, despite me having played it for over a decade, now.

Quoting: liamdaweI have extreme doubts that Gabe's words have really swayed anyone.

I'm quite certain that Newell has had a strong effect.  You don't have to take my word for it (hence, I didn't say you should be certain as well), and though it may sound somewhat anecdotal, I have corresponded with many, many developers over the years, politely lobbying them to port their games.  During 2012, I've half a dozen or so responses back from developers basically saying "Yep, we'll be doing a port. If Valve thinks it's important, than we do to."  Simple as that.

The thing is, Newell had been complaining about Microsoft for quite some time prior to confirming Steam Linux with Larabel from Phoronix.  I'm inclined to feel that Valve had a vague idea for portability somewhat in-the-works since Steam on Mac OS X, possibly because of of Vista (but who knows for sure).

That said... our Linux message was loud & clear, and I believe it is what convinced Desura, Humble, Gameolith, etc., and brought him onboard after we'd started to make some good progress. Perhaps I do agree with you that it's much less Newell's words versus his actions (through Valve). Those actions have certainly "spoken" far louder than a press release.

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Quoting: ethyl

Quoteia32-libs does not make sense on 32bit (i686) linux. i solved it however by downgrading curl. still, it'd be nice to have it statically linked

hi jose you downgraded curl to version??

yup, but then later i extracted the working curl version to the game directory and run it via LD_LIBRARY_PATH=. ./TennisElbow2013. still hope developer will fix this.

also, i think that it should be mentioned somewhere (visibly) that linux version does not support network play.

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