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Ever since THB started platform-specific bundles it seems like I just don't care about their offerings anymore. Not sure why. Perhaps because they've taken on the same feel as the Royal Bundles.

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Quoting: liamdaweHas anyone contacted them to see if they plan to port?

I didn't directly ask, but I tweeted them my first thought when I saw it:
https://twitter.com/edgleyUK/status/321699711985786880

This is confirming, certainly my, suspicions as to the direction HB is going.

Blendo is a one man band from what I can tell and Atom Zombie Smasher was fantastic -- but I can't endorse them / him if they're / he's not supporting Linux.

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Anyway, I think I've already watched so many 30 Flights of Loving playthroughs on Youtube that isn't even worth to play it myself. :P


PS: looks like Humble is back in the right direction (albeit not completely since not all games are multiplatform)

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Quoting: avarisclariNo problem, I looked at the launcher options to see if I could figure out what was going on, saw that it was looking for Livalink and renamed the file based off that. (Though i seriously can't remember what the extra part was now)

Yes, the Desura error mentioned the same missing file but somehow I failed to make the connection... :S:

FYI, the original file was Livalink.x86 ;) (I presume you have a 32bit system, haven't you? In my case they're 2 files: Livalink.x86 and Livalink.x86_64)

I was, I'm on 64 again (finally switched to arch and the 32 version for some reason didn't like my computer)

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Quoting: CheesenessI sort of feel that maybe I should have payed a little less for this one. I misread the page and thought that 30 Flights of Loving was native as well.

Still, Blendo make neat games and it's nice to support them.

Has anyone contacted them to see if they plan to port?

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Quoting: avarisclariNo problem, I looked at the launcher options to see if I could figure out what was going on, saw that it was looking for Livalink and renamed the file based off that. (Though i seriously can't remember what the extra part was now)

Yes, the Desura error mentioned the same missing file but somehow I failed to make the connection... :S:

FYI, the original file was Livalink.x86 ;) (I presume you have a 32bit system, haven't you? In my case they're 2 files: Livalink.x86 and Livalink.x86_64)

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Quoting: avarisclariIf you rename the file from Livalinkwhatever to Livalink, the desura launcher works again.

As easy as that. Thanks! :D

No problem, I looked at the launcher options to see if I could figure out what was going on, saw that it was looking for Livalink and renamed the file based off that. (Though i seriously can't remember what the extra part was now)

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I sort of feel that maybe I should have payed a little less for this one. I misread the page and thought that 30 Flights of Loving was native as well.

Still, Blendo make neat games and it's nice to support them.

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Quoting: avarisclariIf you rename the file from Livalinkwhatever to Livalink, the desura launcher works again.

As easy as that. Thanks! :D

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Quoting: muntdefemsOh, I thought there was a new release and I rushed to open my Desura client even before reading the article... :S:

Yeah, I upgraded it some days ago but didn't play it for long so I didn't notice much difference. What I DID notice was that this release broke the Desura launcher somehow and now I can only play Livalink if I launch it from the console. :(

If you rename the file from Livalinkwhatever to Livalink, the desura launcher works again.

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Oh, I thought there was a new release and I rushed to open my Desura client even before reading the article... :S:

Yeah, I upgraded it some days ago but didn't play it for long so I didn't notice much difference. What I DID notice was that this release broke the Desura launcher somehow and now I can only play Livalink if I launch it from the console. :(

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Quoting: SabunIs this the same Divinity series as Divinity: Ego Draconis? If it is, I wonder if they'd be so kind as to port their older titles as well :)

It is (though Divinity II was very badly under publisher influence).
As for porting their old games, you should ask them, but I doubt it's in their mind at the moment.

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Totally backed.

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No harm, no foul :)

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The editor, their enthusiasm and details like lighting spells have more effect in the rain sold me on this one a while ago :)

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Quoting: edgleyYeah, it's actually the other way around, although more of an "inspired by Crimsonland" :)

Indeed, I made a very shameful mistake... Man, if I could go back in time and slap myself I most certainly would. That's what happens when I think with my emotions and assumptions.:|

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Is this the same Divinity series as Divinity: Ego Draconis? If it is, I wonder if they'd be so kind as to port their older titles as well :)

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I think I would rather wait and see with this one -- the gameplay looks promising and they look like they are going to get funded anyway, but I'd rather be cautious here.

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Quoting: SabunI thought Crimsonland was something new, apparently it's been around for a while. Again, I apologize for my mistake.

Yeah, it's actually the other way around, although more of an "inspired by Crimsonland" :)

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The Arstechnica article isn't the most flattering, but they do mention that it's the Alienware website that says 'over 25 games' through Steam while in actuality there are close to a hundred available on Steam.

They do also say that one hundred (or 97 to be more exact) isn't much.  Of course they leave out the (rest of) the Indy scene.  I generally find the amount of games available for Linux now to be more than I can keep up with anyway.

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Quoting: Philip550cKeep on doing it, I dont want to shut you up. I was just hoping that you can see that some of us have given up on the DRM free hope and have instead enjoyed playing the DRM games, I just dont see it as a big deal because at the end of the day its just games.

I fully recognize that, but I don't subscribe to that view, so the fact that others have come to that decision does not really affect my own thoughts on the matter that much. I recognize your reasons, I just don't buy them for myself.

Quoting: Philip550cI love reading the things you write about, Im not trying to step on your beliefs and I would probably enjoy you as neighbor or something, this wasnt meant to be a personal attack.

The problem here is that you were asserting I was trying to take your freedom's away, which can be seen as a fairly serious charge. Granted, I am alleging that to when it comes to DRM, but there is a difference between picking on an institution and alleging that against a person, at least in my mind. Still, thank you for clarifying.

Quoting: Philip550cI have seen developers on forums say that linux users are only interested in freedom and nothing else, so I am worried that I will never get the desktop OS that I dream about. I see that is your concern as well, just a different dream.

The thing you got to remember there is that if the developers really don't want to be here for whatever reason they are not going to stay or even treat us very well when they are here. Your own point about some of the developers involved in some the Humble Bundles not seeming all that interested in being properly cross-platform or DRM free already exemplifies that. I would much rather have developers releasing games for Linux because they want to rather than trying to cater to those who don't. That way these developers will release better Linux games, treat us better, and subsequently be treated better in return.

Quoting: Philip550cSorry to cause such an argument but as far as originality your stance is the main stance in the linux world, so I dont see how its original?

Well, we could argue which is the mainstream opinion until we are blue in the face, but as far as I can tell I seem to be standing from the much more marginalized position. And it was the phrasing of your arguments and not necessarily the arguments themselves that I found to be hackneyed, and too similar to a lot of the arguments I have heard against similar stances in the past (which is also part of the reason I took such an exception to them).

Quoting: Philip550cAlso I do family farming as well.

Okay, PM me and we can compare experiences. :)

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Got a clarification from the developers:
Quote:
"YES, you will get a steam key for the game when it's released on another platform (whichever one you want). And at that time, it would indeed mean that you would probably get the PC version as well.
The key difference here is timing. Windows gamers will be playing a finished game this Summer, while gamers for other platforms will have to wait...."

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keeping the sales on each platform independent doesn't make sense if they plan to launch on Steam...

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Yeah, I don't really get why the restriction, since it's digital distribution and costs (almost) nothing to send more copies. Still, $10 or $17 is a rather low price and at least the port isn't a stretch goal.

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As soon as a Linux version is out, I will be scraping money together to also grab a copy :D

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I do not like the way they have done it at all.

Edit > I added their email to me into the article now. So right now you either pay for Linux at $10 and wait until it's out or pay $17+ and get the Windows + Linux version :/.

I know we are all Linux users here but I don't like any form of lock in like that when there are so many Kickstarters doing better offering up a Key for all platforms.

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They explain their rather odd way of managing platform versions here.

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It certainly isn't the first KS project I see which offers only one port of a multiplatform game, but I agree that this project's pledge levels and rewards are somewhat strange... Well, at least they confirmed it'll be DRM-free! :P

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Quoting: Philip550cYes I do believe that saying no DRM software in linux is limiting my freedom, people do listen to your comments.

On the other hand, flocks of Linux users happily embracing Steam's DRM and thus forcing indie developers to get on that platform (often neglecting other ways of digital distribution) are totally harmless to us DRM-free lovers...

I guess Hamish would be as happy as I'd be if every Linux game were released both with DRM and DRM-free, effectively granting everyone their freedom to choose. But unfortunately this is not the case and the future doesn't bode well in that respect. :(

You are correct, I had not thought of that. This could happen as well.

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Quoting: HamishI am sorry, but I am not going to moderate my beliefs or views simply because "companies [don't] like it". Nor am I going to be arrogant enough to assume that people are going to (or even should) take my comments as representing the whole Linux community, or even merely GamingOnLinux for that matter (and I would like to take a moment to thank Liam for allowing me to voice my views as loudly and boisterously as I am, even though I sure as hell know he does not fully agree or follow them). If you are worried about what I am saying, then I am sorry but that is your problem, not mine. My concern is to stay true to myself, my own values, and my own conscience, and by doing that I am not violating or using anyone's freedoms but my own.

And I would hardly say I was "raining on your parade" - I do not go to every Steam related article just to blast it, and only bring up my concerns with it when it is pertinent to the discussion. If I did otherwise, then I would be a troll. But I don't. I do moderate my opinions and fears enough that I do manage to keep a good enough code of behaviour (enough that I do not violate forum rules certainly) but that is about as far as I am willing to go. I am not going to moderate my views because someone may get a bad impression of me. If they take me, one man, to represent the whole Linux community then again, that is their problem, not mine. And Valve is not something I think that is really going to care about what I post. So I do not think you even have to worry.

And about me also being reactionary, certainly I am to an extent. But I like to think I take a bit more time to frame my arguments than that to at least allow them to be somewhat original. Certainly passion rules much of my words, but I do like to think I try and guard myself from them to some extent. What bothers me the most though is that I keep getting nailed to causes which used to be more of the norm but are now a complete struggle to keep going (DRM free gaming, family farming, etc...). I would much rather be a pure activist any day - at least then you are not fighting the decay of something you care about. And that is what I pity about RMS the most - he has been doing that for thirty years.

Keep on doing it, I dont want to shut you up. I was just hoping that you can see that some of us have given up on the DRM free hope and have instead enjoyed playing the DRM games, I just dont see it as a big deal because at the end of the day its just games. I do run desura as well as steam and I have all of the HiB as well. I love reading the things you write about, Im not trying to step on your beliefs and I would probably enjoy you as neighbor or something, this wasnt meant to be a personal attack. I have seen developers on forums say that linux users are only interested in freedom and nothing else, so I am worried that I will never get the desktop OS that I dream about. I see that is your concern as well, just a different dream. Sorry to cause such an argument but as far as originality your stance is the main stance in the linux world, so I dont see how its original?. Also I do family farming as well.

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