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I'm still waiting to play this game when fixed.

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I think Shank 2 was ported by Icculus. Jack Claw wasn't released for anything than Windows afaik. Good read.

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I enjoyed reading this, but one thing - Jack Claw was never on Mac in any fashion.

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Thanks for the stats on who ported what - most interesting there for me. :)

As for your little editorial there on the whole THQ thing, I agree with most of what you said even if I am a little less favourable of HB than you are, and I especially like the talk about how things went toxic and why. All and all a well rounded perspective.

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I was going to Tweet to you, but I guess posting here is just as good: An excellent article in general, sums it all up quite nicely.
It was also very interesting to read more about the porting process. I always was curious about how it goes and why.

It's a shame that we can still only speculate on many issues concerning the current HiB, especially about the reduced number of sales.
I suppose we'd need some data directly from the users if we're to ever be able to find out the true reasons why it happened...

From a technical standpoint, besides an occasional typo and missing word, only one thing bugs me some: the pie doesn't have any associated numerical value.

Other than that, a very good read. Keep em coming. :cool:

Edit: Oh, and Happy New Year!

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Apparently shortly before I put out the review they announced that they are indeed planning to put out a DLC and that the Linux version is coming to Steam:
http://www.rochardthegame.com/en/2012/12/24/happy-holidays-from-the-rochard-team/

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Just got a message from the icculus.org bugzilla that the health indicator problems (and potentially the other on screen display bugs) have been fixed up ready for the next build. So things are indeed progressing.

Now we just need to see about improving performance.

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Post cleaned up and accepted.

I hope it does come, well it probably will. The game itself is far better than the first one in terms of graphics, game play and player base.

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I haven't tried Cultures yet, but I've definitely enjoyed the open-source [URL='http://wl.widelands.org/']Widelands[/URL]. If you liked the original Settlers, you should give this one a try!

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Quoting: "Hamish, post: 7401, member: 6"I agree with much of what you are saying, but they actually have quite qualified hands on their team such as Sam Lantinga and Forest Hale.

I'm sure they have them working on other things more related to programming, or I would think they aren't so qualified when it comes to software distribution.

For now, Desura and HB are my preferred game distribution channels, even with their mistakes. I can buy DRM-free games and they don't mess with my system in unpredictable ways.

I'm pretty worried this ends like some much other half-cooked tries to get gaming to GNU/Linux, saying the platform isn't ready when it's them doing things plainly wrong.

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Mostly formatting irking me - but I think I could just be being a little pedantic here. ;)

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Quoting: "berarma, post: 7396, member: 131"It seems they didn't hire any GNU/Linux experts, or they aren't hearing what they might have to say.

I agree with much of what you are saying, but they actually have quite qualified hands on their team such as Sam Lantinga and Forest Hale.

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It is better than being called ham-ish all the time in real life, trust me. ;)

I actually tend to find most games a bit long actually, as I find that most developers like to extend a game past it effectiveness due to the notion of gameplay hours equalling game worth. So that is probably the reason why I personally did not have a problem with the length of the game.

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Damn, I think I contributed to the name thing. Sorry Hamish. ;)

Good review. The game is a bit easy and short, but I enjoyed it from start to end. The Unity engine has debuted very well, everything run smooth, and it's the first game I've seen that lets me change the system volume with the media keys. I didn't have problems with screen resolutions.

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They're doing it the hard and wrong way. Someone should tell them to stop messing with the package system and do their things in their own directory, don't mess with anyone's system or you'll get in trouble. Desura is an example in the good direction, although it can improve. Moreover, any game does it better than Steam.

It seems they didn't hire any GNU/Linux experts, or they aren't hearing what they might have to say. The package system is for the distribution maintainers, it isn't nor shouldn't be a place for anyone to dump their garbage. I'm using GNU/Linux for several years and I've jumped from wanting distribution native packages to avoid them like the plague, and there're good reasons.

They want to control the games, now it seems they want to control your computer too. They'll install, upgrade and remove packages for you. Is that a disease? Ugh...

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Quoting: "Bumadar, post: 7385, member: 93"xpander, sorry but it does not, i have it running without root and without anything in /bin etc

yes u do because u just extract the package and resolve ur dependency hell by hand. but thats not the way it will work in the future.
this thread was about that steam is now focusing to make the packages available for other distros as well.
currently all non ubuntu based distros had to do a lot of work to get it working.
specially on 64bit systems.

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That's my first game on Linux, I remember yet those evenings a few years ago. Now looks very nicely, much better than once :)

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Quoting: "Hamish, post: 7388, member: 6"Well, as a suggestion, you could get me to look over it as an editor. I always get mine checked over by someone else and you are always surprised about all the small little problems another pair of eyes can find.

I actually had cheese look it over last night did he miss some issues? :P

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A question - why is it OS X is the only one with a standalone download on Desura?

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Quoting: "liamdawe, post: 7381, member: 1"Forgive me if this review isn't as good as Hamish's usually are, writing lots isn't a strong point of mine but I wanted to give it a go. If you have feedback go ahead...just be nice!

Well, as a suggestion, you could get me to look over it as an editor. I always get mine checked over by someone else and you are always surprised about all the small little problems another pair of eyes can find.

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Quoting: "mirv, post: 7371, member: 214"You can set an environment variable to have TF2 use something other than pulseaudio. I can't remember what exactly - on holidays and can't check right now - but you should be able to google it, check the steam forums, or something.

Do you mean something game specific or just an SDL command such as "export SDL_AUDIODRIVER=alsa"?

Not using Steam or anything, but just though I might save some of you some time.

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same , thanks for verifying

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xpander, sorry but it does not, i have it running without root and without anything in /bin etc

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FWIW (and feel free to delete this post if it only deserves this fate), The Book of Unwritten Tales can currently be grabbed [URL='http://www.greenmangaming.com/s/us/en/pc/games/adventure/book-unwritten-tales-standard-edition/']on Green Man Gaming[/URL]. There's an additional price reduction using the following coupon on checkout : GMG30-DPLIM-DN831, bringing the price down to 7€... Cheaper than [URL='http://store.steampowered.com/app/215160']on Steam itself [/URL]- where, ironically, the game can then be activated. The coupon lasts until January (and works on other GMG games for a nice 30% discount - among others the sequel, Critter Chronicles, whereas Steam only gives 25% off)

The game has gotten [URL='http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/the-book-of-unwritten-tales']quite nice reviews[/URL], so I guess point'n'click fans could do themselves a favor here. :)

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Thanks for honest review. Cheers

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Shank 2 doesn't show up under Linux where all the games from all the different HIB's are listed but it does show up under Linux when I select Humble Indie Bundle 7.

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Quoting: "Bumadar, post: 7369, member: 93"Xpander, that is how I have Steam running, since I can't use the .deb I just took what I needed and placed the files where I wanted them and run steam.sh from there. it updates itself there like Desura does.

from what I gather the only reason they want a package and root install is that steam then can add dependences itself ? if so I think they better of simply doing a sudo GUI when they want to add dependences instead of doing it in the background




totally agree

no, steam doesnt work like desura currently. yes u can install it to anywhere u want, but it still installs stuff to /usr (/usr/bin , /usr/lib and /usr/share)folders and wanting root privileges, every time there are updates to those files there.
desura currently does ship with its own dependencies and symlinks to system ones. Steam should do the same imo.

i wouldnt want steam to be integrated to packagemanager as it currently does, at least with ubuntu based distros.

the best way would be if steam was just like on windows. with a installer (nixstaller or mojosetup) and will include all the needed libraries with it(symlinking if available on ur distro).
mojosetup can check for libraries installed by the system i think? and install them if needed (would require root tho, but one time only)

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Didn't have any real problem getting it to work - the only one I ran into was, as often, having to rename the bundled openal to get sound working. Other than that, it runs beautifully, and the game itself is very laid-back and enjoyable.

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I am not exactly sure, why should we, gamers, support this?
OK, i understand that this will enable developers use Linux, POSSIBLY to create Linux game ports.(just cause i develop in Linux, doesn't mean my product will be used on Linux).
I get no game discounts or NOTHING. And I also risk my money.

In other words, I bet on a horse, and I don't even know what I will win, most likely I shall win another opportunity to bet on a horse. From gamer perspective it's a loose-loose situation.

BTW, I have typically paid several times more than average on Humble Bundle games(with one exception, but I was really broke that time, when I had to borrow money for food), I also supported a few Kick Starters. I don't want to be perceived as greedy man.

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It sort of feels like this campaign is targeting the wrong audience. I shot them a few suggestions about how they might go about improving their campaign, but didn't hear anything back. it's a shame because the premise is great.

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