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It's DRM, so i really don't like it... i'd rather see more crowd funding pop up.

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Quoting: "liamdawe, post: 4146, member: 1"What do you think? Will Steam on Linux mean anything for you?

No. I have no interest in using Steam or any other delivery platform. If I want a game, I prefer to buy it from developers directly.

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Actually a fairly fair assessment by Alex there. I am only really interested in the port of the Source engine and games. I am a bit leery of Steam itself.

And it is true that Valve has (not entirely deliberately) hurt things I care about by overshadowing things in the past. That was one of the reasons that, even when I was stuck on Windows, I never played their games. I was waiting for Valve to do something for me first.

So we will wait and see if that time has come. Sorry if we are getting any of you people down. ;)

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Questions whether Steam is a good thing for Linux gaming (or any sort of gaming for that matter) is a rather difficult one to answer. From what I've researched so far, it was stated that they're planning on turning it into a social network akin to Facebook. This could be something extremely good for the gaming community as a whole, yet it still doesn't say anything about fixing the [URL='http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Kw3AFJmctk']current problems with the service[/URL] (only video I could dig up; too tired to search for the rest). Never forget that Steam is, essentially, a well-branded DRM platform - something that the Linux community has been fending off for quite some time, even more than proprietary software. This move might put a serious dent in the whole open-source campaign in the long run, yet I dare not make assumptions until the first signs of trouble occur. On the other hand, a vast majority of the consumer base has been married to Steam for so long that upon switching to Linux they've either duel-booted or kept used it through Wine. There's no question that this is something they've been eagerly anticipating ever since first mentions of the port were made. One of the things many of them don't seem to understand though is that, by the end of the day, the number of available Linux titles relies solely on the developers, not Steam itself. Though to be perfectly honest, Valve has a huge impact on many things that happen within the gaming industry. I'm certain that as soon as they become available on Linux many publishers (except for EA which now has Origin) will follow in an attempt to make a profit. So to sum it all up, the biggest plus in this whole story is that Source is getting ported; the rest is debatable.

I do wish I had a stronger more subjective feeling about this whole affair, but given the limited amount of information available I just can't care enough to be involved. It's going to happen no matter what I think or say, and not like Newell's going to come by here and indulge my curiosities on the subjects of why, how and where all this is heading. Thus not much more to do except speculate, wait and see. Personally, what really presses my buttons about all of this is the news itself. The fact that so many Linux users will be talking about nothing but Steam until the port is ready means that so much work done by so many people in an effort to get funded (Indies) or accepted by a wider audience (Desura) will once again be overshadowed by the giant marketing grip surrounding this story which, no matter how hyped, shouldn't make the world stop just yet.

Now, if Valve was to announce something like "we're rewriting our licensing agreement" or "we're joining forces with DesuraNET" then I believe I would have a heart attack on the spot... Just sayin' :rolleyes:

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Assuming this is true, I think what is more likely is for companies that previously did support us, such as Croteam and the people behind Red Orchestra, will come back on board once again. They have basically already stated their only real issue (though never forget the power to find other excuses...) is the fact there is no Steam for Linux.

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That's probably the best information of the day :)
I really hope that it's not fake again...
I'm waiting for native steam on linux for a long long time.

Linux FTW!

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It'll mean I don't have to boot to Ubuntu each time I want to play Trine with my teammate.

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think it looks pretty sweet indeed.

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seems pretty good judging by the trailer video.
if it works with wine and is priced nicely then i will defenetly buy it.

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Graphics is nice, but i can't say i am impressed. If price is right, surely looks interesting for buying. I am affraid this news will be overshadowed with Phoronix link, about Valve porting source to Linux.

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I've brought all of them up to this, but for some reason this one doesn't interest me.

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Ok I registered, I'm slightly older now though :) (according to my profile)

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Well given the speed of mine-craft support ... I have roughly 14 days of paperwork I could fill in :)
I'll register after some more Arx Fatalis :)

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Well due to abuse our server is no longer going to be public if you feel you are trustworthy and want to play with us you will need to send me a PM

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I played the demo once and was actually not that impressed. Still, it has been updated since then.

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Well guess there is no option then but to wait for the visa bill and tech support (SLOOOW tech support) of minecraft to reply ... So you might have tossed a call to join ... but it will take around 14 days ATLEAST before I can play it seems ...

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i dont really know why ur payment was fail. i was just pointing out that there are other ways to do that than just direct credit card payment.
i myself using paypal lately. cuz its fast and simple.

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Quoting: "Xpander, post: 4128, member: 92"you can try Skrill (moneybookers) https://www.moneybookers.com/app/
if somehow ur credit/debit card wont be accepted

But that means ... I'll be putting money in the very same people who fail to accept the payment ?
(The visa payment is already going trough them.) Or did I miss something ?

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you can try Skrill (moneybookers) https://www.moneybookers.com/app/
if somehow ur credit/debit card wont be accepted

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I'm also playing Legend of Grimrock via Wine (1.5.2) and the only thing I needed to do to get it working is this:

winetricks xact_jun2010 d3dx9_36

in clean Wineprefix (it's important) than just unpack install.exe from the zip archive and install the game. It works very good aside from sound problems with OSSv4 (Open Sound System) in Wine. I ran it on max graphicall settings (with SSAO set to high) in 1920x1080 fullscreen and I get constant framerate above 30 and if I set SSAO to disabled it goes as high as 60 fps.

My specs:
Kernel: Linux 3.0.0-19-generic i686
Distro: Ubuntu 11.10
CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4400+
2 cores/threads
2300.00 MHz
RAM: 1.96 GiB
GPU: GeForce 9600 GT/PCIe/SSE2/3DNOW!
OpenGL 3.3.0 NVIDIA 295.20
GLSL 3.30 NVIDIA via Cg compiler

This is the first stable release of Arx Libertatis and the developers have [URL='http://arx.parpg.net/Mission_statement']plans[/URL] for future milestones, for example a Qt-based modern game editor and support for modern shaders.

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i made a short gameplay video also
View video on youtube.com

adobe air is quite pain in the ass tho, only version 2.6 and older have linux support. recent versions seems to not have.
other than that.. once air is installed, it works really good

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Botanicula is a masterpiece (it's from Amanita so that's not a surprise), loving everything about it. Even the use of Adobe technologies didn't go against this game.

Although I had problem with installation because it needs very much free space. The installer unpacks files to /tmp and then creates .deb package for installation and I had 3,4 GB free but still it was not enough (so I unpacked relevant files manually from that .deb).

Botanicula doesn't have problems with jerky mouse movements in fullscreen that are appearing in Machinarium.

I've recently stumbled upon another very promising game that is made in AS3 and developer is interested in releasing it for Linux. The game is titled [URL='http://thefloorisjelly.tumblr.com/']The Floor is Jelly[/URL] and this is from it's About page:

QuoteWhat platform(s) is this for?

Right now I plan to release for Mac and PC. I’d love to do a Linux release as well, but I am building the game with Flash and I’m not sure if there’s a good option for putting flash games on Linux. I will if I can!

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Quoting: "Qantourisc, post: 4118"I just ran trough the demo, not long enough to introduce me to some of the game dynamics.
I also fear for the length of the game ...
Might need to lookup some video's online and reviews.

I had some issues with my original CD as it did not hold the ArxFatalis_1.21_MULTILANG.exe they kept referring to in the readme, so installed the cd via crossover/wine, then patched to 1.21 and use the install-copy script.

Have to say it runs really smooth and does not even look as outdated as I had thought it would. But the awkward interface will require some getting use to again, specially the move look/movement mode which we find normal these days but it won't allow you to do all you want, to drag stuff in/out of inventory you need to go another mode.

Exploring wise I think you can compare it best to Ultima Underworld, but the magic system is diffrent, you draw the runs on the screen, thank fully you can draw up to 3 in advance.

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Quoting: "liamdawe, post: 4122, member: 1"Grimrock via wine?

well via crossover, the crossover installation was painless, install grimrock, then install directx modern and that is it, runs very very smooth, had to enable vsync else me card would get to hot :) via wine it also works but the steps are a little different from what I read on the GoG forum. If you dont have crossover (WTH ?!) then you can check out http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=25737

I had forgotten how much I loved the old dungeon master/eye of the beholder games, the puzzles the exploring, took me a total of 14 hours with a self made party on normal mode trying to get as many hidden stuff as I could.

And with the promise of an editor coming out the game will only grow, I can just smell a remake of DM & CSB :)

ps: the GoG 1.1.4 version (GoG installer 1.0.0.8) has a error, remove the D3DX9_43.dll from the Grimrock directory, the Steam version of the version you can get from the developers via Humble Shop does not have this issue.

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Grimrock via wine?

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Hmm common bug it seems:
http://www.google.be/#sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&safe=off&site=&source=hp&q=mincraft+24hours+credit+debit+card&oq=mincraft+24hours+credit+debit+card&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_nf=1&gs_l=hp.3...656.9616.0.9729.38.36.2.0.0.0.122.2285.35j1.40.0.-3iutKd8U8U&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=11aace41ec3918e0

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right on time, just finished Grimrock, now its time to search for me Arx CD :)

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Bow action:
View video on youtube.com
Couldn't find magic :/ But I quess you can get a clue from the demo regarding magic.

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I just ran trough the demo, not long enough to introduce me to some of the game dynamics.
I also fear for the length of the game ...
Might need to lookup some video's online and reviews.

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Hmm the dam thing is currently broken, tried 2 different VISA cards, both failed, something about they not processing any more credit/debit card payments for the next 24hours for Majang ...

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