Guys, I agree that Vulkan/MoltenVK is the right way to go for maximum coverage, but MoltenVK in particular is barely out of the oven. I'd be surprised to see any commercial venture even touch it at this point unless they've already got their product running on Vulkan. And the Vulkan infrastructure (tooling, documentation etc.) has a long way to go to match the competition. We'll get there, quite soon I think, but we're not there yet. Of course there's also the fact that platform coverage isn't exactly the primary concern for many developers.

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Quoting: ElectricPrismCool I can't wait to get 1100 FPS :P

No, you want the original Doom at 2200 FPS. Or even better, Wolfenstein 3D at 3300 FPS. Anyone writing a Vulkan backend yet?

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Quoting: dmantioneIn this case the use of "PC" can be seen as correct: If Microsoft succeeds to close the software part of PC's, why keep the hardware open so people can escape to Linux? Microsoft ARM based hardware is already closed.

there's ARM hardware made by MS?

Lumia phones and Surface tablets? Something like that. They did acquire Nokia back in the day for their hardware expertise after all. Well, they did get the expertise, but lost or got rid of everything else. Including Nokia's market share.

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I need this. I wish I didn't need this but I do. Who knows, maybe I'll be a bit less broke when the game is ready and released.

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Quoting: Guest

Quoting: MisterKI hope this isn't the same BS that Microsoft pulls with Steam on Linux. Leave the linux userbase with an older, less features, and barely functioning version of skype to deter people from switching platforms from windows.

Huh? What are they doing with Skype?

http://blogs.skype.com/2016/07/13/skype-for-linux-alpha-and-calling-on-chrome-and-chromebooks/

That comes at the cost of p2p calls though. Everything goes through their servers now. And that's awesome! I'm so happy to be finally routing my private video calls through a provider I fully and completely trust.

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Quoting: metro2033fanboyIf that ever happens, Ill go full PS4,PS5 and STEAM indies

goVEGAN

That's pretty much what I was thinking. If the day comes that I can't play any games on Linux but only on Windows, that's the day I cease playing games on PC and switch to PSx.

Hey, fellow penguin-fanciers, relax. I can appreciate a good Sci-Fi dystopia, but Microsoft will never rule the world. This is not in the realm of possibility. Unless absolutely everyone in power goes crazy and everyone else turns to sheep overnight, there's simply no conceivable way of stopping anyone from releasing their game for an open operating system like Linux. Just like there's no way of preventing hardware that enables this from being produced and sold.

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Quoting: lucifertdarkUEFI was the first step to making Windows the only operating system that works on a PC, killing steam & replacing it with Windows store would be a further step down that route, it may take a few years but it is going to happen.

UEFI has some technical merit as well, and if it was meant to stop competition, all it achieved was a slight speed bump and a lot of noise.

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Quoting: LeviIn theory they don't, in practice they do dictate policy. You remember that whole UEFI thing back when windows 8 was released. Only because the EU intervened did Microsoft amend their required implementation guide to include a section about being able to disable the secure boot functionality on x86 systems.

You said it. They try, but as long as they're large and important enough to have such influence, they're also likely to get pushed back due to monopoly concerns. Their lobbying machine get these lockdown measures declared legal in the thoroughly corrupt system we call the US government (Please don't shoot me! I'm an endangered species!) but then slightly saner governments in the EU force/allow hardware manufacturers to leave these locks wide open. They're not much saner and are almost as corrupt, but they still hold on to a semblance of sanity.

Hmm. Is it possible to be both cynical and an optimist in the same paragraph? I think I might just have done that.

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Quoting: liamdawe

Quoting: dmantioneIn this case the use of "PC" can be seen as correct: If Microsoft succeeds to close the software part of PC's, why keep the hardware open so people can escape to Linux? Microsoft ARM based hardware is already closed.

No, he's specifically talking about Windows and Microsoft possibly forcing people to use the Windows store. It is not PC, it is Windows.

Also Microsoft does not own the hardware platform, which means they have no way of closing it down. They might try if they're ever desperate enough, but that'll fail miserably. Not that their current antics with W10 don't reek of desperation already.

Quoting: neowiz73MS has been trying so hard to be like Apple over the past 10 years. Why?, because Apple makes more money than MS, despite being a closed system end to end.

These numbers have very little to do with the relevant market segment, which is desktop/gaming computers. This is where Windows still dominates, and Mac shows no indication of becoming a real threat.

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Quoting: slaapliedjeIt was probably mine, don't worry I have enough for everyone to stroke.

Hope it was as good for you as it was for me.

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