Quoting: TheSHEEEPDo you think medicine would get better if only more people were allowed to be doctors regardless of qualification? Police? Diplomacy? Law? Teaching?

I find it very funny that you think a Linux gaming community like this is comparable to doctors or teachers. That's like comparing people building sand castles to life guards. They're both groups that exist, but only one of them needs qualifications.

Even if someone builds sloppy castles and doesn't listen to advice from more experienced builders, it's all good as long as they're having fun, seeing as that's the only purpose of the activity. The only one in that community who needs to be shut out is the one sabotaging everyone else's fun.

Quoting: TheSHEEEPI would just be lying to them and in contrast to others throwing toxically positive platitudes ala "Linux is for everyone" in their face, that would make me feel bad.

Linux is literally for everyone. Just look at the license(s). There are no artificial barriers for entry, and it's not up to you to come up with them. Not that there's any reason to do so, even if you disagree without providing any rational reasoning to support that position. Maybe it's just a general conservative mindset and resistance to change?

And everyone obviously benefits from using free and open source software, especially something as polished as Linux. It's good for their privacy and increasingly for their convenience as well. Not to mention the health of the ecosystem. I personally might not benefit from the composition of the community changing, seeing as I've already been happy with the state of Linux for more than half my (longer than I'd like to admit at this point) life, but that's irrelevant.

You go ahead and tilt at windmills all you want. There's lots of communities built around Linux, and some of them are more amenable to your point of view. This one specifically prohibits gatekeeping in the site rules, and that has in my view been beneficial to its health and growth.

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Quoting: TheSHEEEPYou can still be welcoming, those are not mutually exclusive, but you have to have standards of who you do and who you do not want as a new part of the community. I don't think there is an alternative - only each person's standards will be different here.

Trying to manage access to something you have no means (or right) to control is futile and counterproductive.

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Quoting: Linuxerlast time iwas here i was told that linux is not for me and shuld go bakc to windows too

Sadly, gatekeepers tend to pop up in every community.

Linux is for everyone, and we were all newbies once.

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Quoting: dziadulewiczI just wanted to check it out, i have no real need for this software.

Sure. You just didn't want to do it the way the dev helpfully told you to do in the instructions:

Quoting: CoolerControl GitlabThe AppImages are helpful if you want to try things out without installing anything.

An AppImage is a single file that contains the dependencies. No need to install anything. I pointed you towards the deb instructions because you were trying to install the deb.


Also "dependency hell" doesn't mean what you think it means.

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Quoting: dziadulewiczSo where can i find a deb, snap or a flatpak to install this? The Gitlab page is a convoluted mess!?

https://gitlab.com/coolercontrol/coolercontrol/-/releases

Thanks alot! Tried to install the deb but of course it doesn't work:



It's so sad that a simple install of (also) this app has not been secured or then the package is just broken.

The UI package you're trying to install depends on the daemon package, which is why it fails if you try to install it like that. You'll find detailed install instructions in the Readme on the main page of the Gitlab repo:

https://gitlab.com/coolercontrol/coolercontrol#debian

Ok, i then tried to install the daemon package, but it gives the exact same dependency error message. So i can't install the dependency to start with what the UI package is dependent on.

Something is wrong, it shouldn't be like this at all installing a simple app

You'll have better luck if you just follow the instructions.

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Quoting: dziadulewicz

Quoting: olaulau

Quoting: dziadulewiczSo where can i find a deb, snap or a flatpak to install this? The Gitlab page is a convoluted mess!?

https://gitlab.com/coolercontrol/coolercontrol/-/releases

Thanks alot! Tried to install the deb but of course it doesn't work:



It's so sad that a simple install of (also) this app has not been secured or then the package is just broken.

The UI package you're trying to install depends on the daemon package, which is why it fails if you try to install it like that. You'll find detailed install instructions in the Readme on the main page of the Gitlab repo:

https://gitlab.com/coolercontrol/coolercontrol#debian

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Quoting: 14This game felt and looked promising long ago. I just checked Steam reviews; doesn't sound like there is enough to do in the game to justify the cost at this point.

The driving looks fun, but I agree that the price is too high for the content currently.

Maybe it's aimed at the competitive online racing crowd? Would make sense, seeing as it's owned by iRacing now.

Quoting: Mountain ManI'm not asking for an arcade racer, but the cars in the previous demos seemed far too light with tires that didn't dig in like they should but lightly skipped across the surface instead.

You might like the fact that since the demo, they've added optional traction control, ABS, steering assist and so on.

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Quoting: Purple Library GuyBig deal. Those are mature apps where I don't care about the version. Not like they're using old Libreoffice or GIMP or something.

Well, for me, the Celluloid downgrade is kind of a big deal! The patch to support multiple scripts inside of folders only landed a few months ago and hasn't hit stable yet. That means mpvacious won't work on the older version of Celluloid. And I still need to do the work for the Celluloid flatpak to make it work.

Edit: It has hit stable now: https://github.com/celluloid-player/celluloid/releases/tag/v0.27

Maybe I should hurry up and do the quick patches for the Celluloid Flatpak.

Create `/etc/apt/preferences.d/celluloid.pref` with this content:
 
Package: celluloid
Pin: release n=wilma
Pin-Priority: -10

Now apt prefers the upstream Ubuntu versions for this package.

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Quoting: NezchanHmm.

Afterplace on Steam: CDN $16.56

Afterplace on Itch: USD $5.94

I know the exchange rate isn't great these days, but this is a little much.

Looks like you only get the Android apk on Itch for that price. It jumps up much closer to the Steam price if you want the Linux/Windows/Mac builds.

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Quoting: pleasereadthemanualThe decision to fork older versions of these base desktop programs makes sense, but I don't like it. It doesn't matter much because you can still install newer versions via Flatpak.

And you can override and install the newer versions of these packages from the Ubuntu apt repositories if you really want to.

I doubt I'll bother, even if I do run file roller and gnome calculator sometimes.

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