Quoting: LoudTechieI'm still curious what took them so long.

Spider proofing.

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I'm just blatantly gonna copy Linux_Rocks shtick:



As for Wine development, I'm mostly looking forward to Wayland support being finished and made default, and the progress of winesync.

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Quoting: MoogMuskieI couldn't fathom how much it would hurt to be in the developers position.

Yeah, some large helpings of sympathy is probably in order.

Quite a few people lost their jobs. As for the original developers, I was going to write that's six years lost. But reading up on the game, development actually started in 2014, from an idea and proof of concept going back to 2009.

That's somebody's life project... not an easy thing to bounce back from.

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I only skimmed the Kickstarter news updates so I probably got some details wrong, but this reads like a cautionary tale of how NOT to do game development. Every time they got close to finishing the game, the goal posts were moved.

- First time this happens the developers were afraid it didn't live up to the fundraising promises so they delay the release and start adding features. Essentially a rewrite?
- This needs more people so they expand from a two person indie team to a 14 (?) person company.
- Kickstarter brought in €30K so money is presumably long gone. Fortunately a publisher steps in, but considers it so unsuitable for release that it is reworked again...

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Quoting: Jarmerso is this basically like going into steam and doing the "add non steam game" from the menu? But just in a different launcher?

You can use it to run vanilla Proton (from Valve) outside of Steam or in any umu supported launcher. But
primarily it simplifies things for third party Proton builds like GE or others used by Lutris and Heroic.

If built against the Steam Runtime there would be no need for a separate projects like Wine-GE-custom, and same day support for Proton-GE and similar in Steam, Lutris and Heroic (when umu support is finalized).

At least as I understand it.

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I think there might be some confusion regarding Wine and ARM. Wine have supported ARM for some time, but it is used for:

- Running Windows ARM binaries (Win8, CE, RT etc.) on ARM hardware.
- Compiling Win32 programs against winelib to be run as a native Linux ELF on ARM hardware.

None of these involve running x86/64 apps or games on ARM.

There is however a separate project, Hangover, for that sort of emulation. It uses Box64/Flex (or even QEMU) as a backend.

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Quoting: CatKillerI realised partway through the second game that the character I'd created was basically Xena.

Recreating Xena? You got some splainin to do!

(Sorry, got my Lucy's mixed up!)

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So essentially this anti-cheat system is based on witchcraft?

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Quoting: HighballCan someone recommend a GOG Linux game that doesn't work out of the box? I randomly(ish) bought and downloaded a game called Silver because:

Works on:
Windows (7, 8, 10, 11), Linux (Ubuntu 16.04, Ubuntu 18.04)
Release date:
August 31, 1999

I thought for sure this is not going to work. I'm running Ubuntu 24.04. But everything worked. I was shocked and disappointed, haha. The last update according to the change log in GOG is from 2018. Seems like they have something figured out.

Just a heads up in case you plan on actually playing the game. The Linux port had some horrible bugs when I played it in 2019 and I ended up using Proton instead.

If it was last updated in 2018 I guess those issues haven't been fixed...

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Quoting: HighballEdit: Back in the day, WINE released a libwine library for Windows applications. If you programmed with libwine that would make your program compatible with Linux using WINE. I don't know how much use it got or if it ever got any traction. But, I've said this before, Valve should be developing a libproton library. Or at the very least investing in libwine and promoting that. Future games starting with libproton and Vulkan would be 100% compatible with Linux at that point and use 1:1 translations just like WoW64 does for older Windows programs and games.

I think Winelib is still a thing, at least the user guide looks up to date?

But its a native port by any other name. With the same problems. You need active developer support, you have two versions to keep up to date, you need to manage dependencies etc.

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