Even with Raven's Cry, I won't buy it until the first tests on Linux show up. I don't trust in a good port to Linux and massive testing by them, judging the "professional" development timeline :D.

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Last time I tried I only hit 20fps, let's see in the eve' how this is after the patch.

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Quoting: sub

Quoting: STiATI don't consider eON bad (...) doing a d3d/ogl native wrapper (that's what it is)

A what?

What is a native wrapper?

Something like Valve does with D3D9-->OpenGL on code level?
That would be ok, but that eON crap still has the windows DLLs around AFAIK,
so I don't think it works that way.

That's exactly what it is. There are binary wrappers as wine, and source code wrappers as eON, togl or Ferals indirectx.

Note that even Valve ships .exe files, and I doubt they're running them (Left 4 Dead 2, Portal 2), just do a find $HOME/.steam/steam -iname '*.exe', there is a huge list of games doing so, and I doubt all are using binary wrappers - so the argument that .dlls are shipped is a pretty weak one. It could be that they just ship windows binarys too...

Though, wrapper is wrapper, but eON IS a source-code based and within that a wrapper going fully native. It just "wraps" d3d calls into ogl calls on a source code level.

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I don't consider eON bad, actually the opposite is the case, and doing a d3d/ogl native wrapper (that's what it is), or "abstraction" layer is a pretty though thing to do, and a neat thing to have if optimized properly.

I just think they should have optimized and tested it better in the first place rather than releasing it in the state it was, which is a common mistake in gaming (and obviously desktops, say hi to my favourite desktop KDE :D).

I personally think it's good they are still working to improve their product, if done and optimized properly it could be a viable option to port older games and engines. Future engines which base upon DX12 or OGL4 won't need a layer like this though, since they'll very likely make use of more hardware-close interfaces in the two "new" versions.

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That's a good thing, I certainly didn't think they were even remotely close to breaking even.

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My hope goes for Dishonored.

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Never played BL2 or The battle for Wesnoth, but 0AD and Civ5: well earned.

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I personally see increasing issues installing linux as well, on ubuntu, on arch, even on older hardware wherr it used to work without issues I have more and especially manual steps to do (modeset for having an integrated 915 and a nvidia card - did not have to do that in the past, and seems to me like a regression in kms).

The out of the box installers get worse and worse, so I set up arch again (if end up struggling with things like that I can simply use arch again as well).

But the issues he writes about are mostly the non-issues of our current linux situation. And yes, by that I mean our unreliable graphics stack and never ending regressions in intel drivers etc. is a bigger issue.

But well, his decision. I guess it won't be much missed, I still think the reason is not a good one. Frustration on other things I would have understood very well.

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Have this on my radar since the developer marked he may port it. I am excited it is going to happen now, I love city builders (I like Hearthland as well, has a lot of potential still being early access).

I guess the port will still take some time, but as soon as released it's a must buy for me.

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Shogun 2 Total War ...

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