Quoting: KithopOther big one - under Wayland they now have the concept of a 'primary' monitor like under Xorg, so for multi monitor setups where those monitors are changing (i.e. laptops), it remembers your setup and consistently puts your primary panel on the same screen you set it to when plugging in an external monitor.

Looks like they may have fixed the bug I experienced, too, where a Konsole session would freeze if the monitor it was on (or the dGPU?) powered down while you were away with the screen locked, and just be totally dead when you came back and unlocked it.

I'll need to re-test and see if the DRM leasing support means I can get my Vive running on Wayland, next. That's pretty much one of the last things I keep a Windows drive around for, other than my Xbox Game Pass sub.

That's actually important for me, even on the desktop since X and Wayland discover my "primary" as "secondary" since my HDMI seems to be listed first and my DP second, while my DP is the "primary" monitor in front of me. You could work around it, but as you said, on a laptop that was more hassle.

For me that's the change which could see me switch, or at least attempt a switch to wayland again, even being on NVidia (somehow the fedora guys made that actually working properly with GBM).

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So he's telling that cheat creators could do it, and it would not be possible for a multi billion dollar company?

That's a bit odd. I can agree it may not be worth the effort, but I disagree with that it can not be done.

Though, it certainly is harder on Linux than on Windows by the nature of diversity, I'll grant him that.

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Quoting: pb

Quoting: nitro322KDE 4 was very rough, but by 5 KDE's been quite solid again. Heck, even by around 4.4/4.5 it was at least usable again, with steady polish and enhancements since then. Unless you just have a strong preference for the style or workflow of another particular desktop, I think you'll be happy with what you see in modern KDE.

I've been using xfce for the last few years, but I don't have strong feelings for or against any desktop, so I'll gladly test the new kde on the deck. :-)

I have looked at xfce so often, and It seems a hassle to just get my dual monitor set up properly so the primary screen is really the primary including the panel etc. That part of the configuration is for me so unintuitive that I shy away, since I often switch setups and have to switch the primary monitor quite often. Other parts about setting it up too. Once running it's nice.

KDE .. you see the ressources behind it, and while I think they did have their focus wrong for some time (especially 4 and beginning of 5), where they innovated, popped out features and libraries, without having a really good and bug free basic experience (as switching to dark mode does nothing for GTK until session restart, that your primary screen has a black background and is not interactive sometimes
etc.), I think they realized that doing better at the basic stuff is more important as the most features they could add by now. And I'm glad they take that route.

I still consider it the "best" desktop, but certainly not the one with the best track record in the past few years when it comes to bugs (most not breaking bugs, but little annoyances).

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I must say I watched the whole Video now, and still have no clue why they think NFTs are the "next big thing".

What it did was to strenghten my view that it's either a scam or a tool for exploitation of others to get rich if you have the money to invest in the first place.

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That is calling the child by its name. With so many big publishers pushing for NFTs I hope that they will fail completely and go shipwreck with that.

Give us good games with actual value, not another way to spend even more money on somethinh with no real value.

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Quoting: Guest

Quoting: t3gI’m glad Stadia failed so you can stop posting articles about it. Yes, it was based on Linux, but developers didn’t use that code for native ports on GOG and Steam. I thought of it like Android where it was a closed Linux ecosystem.

A) you want a service to fail, a service that others use, because you....don't want to read news about it?
B) you also want a service to fail because developers aren't releasing native desktop GNU/Linux versions? Despite no company ever claiming it would lead to that (Google never, not once, claimed this, and no developer to my knowledge ever claimed this either).

It's not like Steam is an open platform. It's quite closed. So are the majority of the games you're likely to be playing. Just want to point that out.

I did want Stadia to fail because they piggybacked on Linux and their "enhancements" never made it upstream. When the Steam Deck comes out with SteamOS 3.0, Valve's enhancements are going to be upstreamed. Plus, it was doomed to fail since they made you pay for each game on top of paying for the steaming service. If they just charged a monthly fee, then it would have been better. Especially for a service where you never really owned your games that you paid money for. This is true of digital content, but at least you can install to the hard drive with GOG and Steam.

I have my issues with GOG not providing Galaxy or a native Linux build of certain games, but you can always use Lutris to get the Windows games running and many times, it will run better with Lutris' Wine, Wine-GE, or standard Proton. Oh and I can download the .exe or .sh file on backups. I love that GOG is DRM free and why I have 400+ games in my library.

Which is incorrect, you paid for the titles you could play them even without subscription.

The "free" titles you get with the subscription you only can claim while you are subscribed, and only can play while you are subscribed.

See it as two different things. They offer the pay-to-play and the subscribe-to-play model. I don't like subscriptoions, and I do not play enough for that to be beneficial, so I bought the titles so I do not need to be subscribed.

I am and never was subscribed, I did buy AC: Valhalla there and still can play it.

The fuckup they did is to require subscription even for paid games for 4k etc. I do not know if they changed that, but I do not have 4k yet anyway.

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Quoting: STiAT[edit] they even have a steam repo... with nvidia and steam I'm well done, I think I can switch properly to their repos. They even have Spotify. Steam, Spotify, NVidia are usually my software issues ... all covered. Nice.

The multimedia repo also contains all smaller repos, so just including this one should be sufficient for your use case.

PS: Spotify is also on flathub/flatpak, that’s even more convenient if you dare to use flatpak :)

I am not a friend of flatpak (in that case, not of snap or any other similar containering too) to be true. I use it if I must... but that's about it. It does nothing for security, and I do not see why I'd need an abstraction layer to run Spotify unless it's spotify themselves maintaining it.

I see it as additional dependencies, an additional system, I see it as additional usage of libraries, additional RAM-Uage, worse integration.... Flatpaks often still use libraries which are known to have security issues due to lack of updates.

So if I can avoid them I do.. but I'm aware that we're running this direction (ostree for the system, flatpacks for the apps). But I hope that's some years off and until then it runs, works and integrates nicely :D.

Fedora is basically preparing for that switch already with silverblue, but I hope to get a few years out of "normal" fedora yet though, and I only have to switch when it's really well integrated and the corner cases covered.

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Quoting: ATFx

QuoteKDE Plasma continues improving to stop you breaking things

Tell KDE to stop Breaking Itself First.

I am longer on KDE than you probably use Linux (since 1998). Get the FUD out. It hardly breaks. It hardly has had stability issues.

They do have issues with maintaining all that config options though. And the effort to actually get those things fixed is a good one.

I had more issues with Gnome breaking and reinventing itself than with KDE.

I actually do have a hard issue with Gnome which was not fixed in the past 10 years. Multiple keyboard inputs make the whole desktop freeze on input for 200-300 MS.

Which is really bad if you play games with a Naga, ReDragon 508 or a Corsair Scimitar.

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Quoting: jens

Quoting: STiATAt least I have Fedora and NVidia who keep their promise of breaking things (especially in that combination, as fedora people pushed 5.16.5 kernel fully aware they'll fuck over nvidia users, and rpmfusion was too slow with the 5.10 driver. But well, Fedora gives nothing for proproetary drivers and we can run old kernels too.

If KDE stabilizes, I still have NVidia and their proprietary crap to break things for good. I am very happy with my setup, but I wished I could have gotten my hands on a AMD card ... which was simply not possible then.

There is also negativo17 for Fedora, https://negativo17.org/nvidia-driver/ or https://negativo17.org/multimedia/ .
I prefer those above rpm fusion, it feels more curated and a bit more modern. It already has the 510 driver.

That's actually an interesting suggestion. I didn't know that repo (yet), but well, being new to Fedora who can blame me :D. Just installed the drivers from there, seems to work properly.

I'll see where this leads, repos like this - at least in other distros - have the tendency to get dropped at some point. We'll see. At least they currently seem more up to date than rpmfusion.

[edit] they even have a steam repo... with nvidia and steam I'm well done, I think I can switch properly to their repos. They even have Spotify. Steam, Spotify, NVidia are usually my software issues ... all covered. Nice.

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I really had a great experience with Stadia and AC: Valhalla when my rig was not up to run it on its own.

The tech is good, and I hope that it can be utilized somewhere else. It would be a shame to see it go down.

I was subscribed to GF now too, it was just .. a pretty bad experience compared to Stadia.

I still think the best would be if they partnered with Valve. Valve has the customer base, the technology to make a lot run on Vulkan and Google has the streaming tech and hardware to back that.

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