I wish the "RTXOn" videos they put out would focus more on Raytracing then DLSS framerates. I don't care about DLSS framerates, I want Raytracing porn.

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Quoting: GuestOdd that Re-Volt is now "Playable". Was one of the first games I put on my Steam Deck and it worked fine.

Probably related to https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton/issues/6068 is my guess.

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They should have just copied Debian's different release names from the start, "stable, testing, and unstable."

Doesn't get more straight forward then that.

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Quoting: enigmaxg2Awesome update! Now with the AppImage it just works! I had compiled it from source before, but I wasn't able to get an audio output (it was greyed out), some builds refused to run at all (illegal instruction)...

I had that problem with sound in the initial open-source release of Cemu, had to to do with the cubeb submodule/repo if I recall. I remember being able to fix it at the time but not what was required, but the compilation issue vanished not too long after that. Make sure you --recurse-submodules when you check out the repo too.

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I agree with most sentiments here, I def prefer AppImage over snaps and flatpaks. I just wish they integrated better and had better ways to update -- sure, some of them can be updated with tools, but not all of them, and most of the time it's janky regardless.

Though as far as preference goes, I wish they were just packages. Thankfully Cemu can just be built directly.

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I honestly have split feelings on devs dropping native and going with "ensuring proton compatibility."

I generally don't mind proton, at all. The problem is that it does kind of screw over non-Steam storefronts a little bit, not that there was much competition. It's true enough that most people, myself included, have the majority of their digital game library in Steam anyway so it's not that big a deal for most in practice.

I imagine it's pretty likely that like a lot of these projects, they treated linux as a stretch goal and didn't even try to support linux until long after bad choices were unknowingly made in terms of being linux-friendly later -- a lot of said decisions are little more then 3rd party library choices and general considerations when building the game/app, or larger ones like frameworks, but not things easily changed later. Dollars to donuts says when they started looking at making it linux compatible it was as simple as "this might actually be hard to get working" vs. "what happens if we try it in Proton (and seeing it works with little to no effort)". It's not always entirely the developers fault, take the very popular .Net stuff that Microsoft openly claims is cross-platform -- which it is, but not in a way that anyone would assume that actually means.

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Quoting: Bumadar

Quoting: dibz

Quoting: BumadarI am not sure its a lutris problem or wine in general, need to test more when I have time. But I wanted my lutris install directory on my nas, it's mounted via nfs and works just fine with steam, loads of room and more then fast enough for gog games, however using lutris I can not install any gog game using the gog installer, it's simply ends with code 256. Any other gog install method like native Linux or dosbox etc works just fine, just the games that need the gog installer. Moving the whole thing to a local drive, install and move to nfs works but a bit of a hassle. Anyways as I said not sure if it's lutris or wine in general.

Are you using the flatpak version of lutris? I don't really use flatpaks much, but I do know they sandbox with additional layers of security/protection. Preventing access to network filesystems is definitely something sandboxey things do. Hopefully someone that actually uses flatpak can comment.

No, I used the version in the tumbleweed repo. It's not that the nfs share is not available, just the gog installer, so might be a wine issue seeing the nfs as network drive.

I use wine with my NFS mounts all the time, they're just directories to wine.

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Quoting: BumadarI am not sure its a lutris problem or wine in general, need to test more when I have time. But I wanted my lutris install directory on my nas, it's mounted via nfs and works just fine with steam, loads of room and more then fast enough for gog games, however using lutris I can not install any gog game using the gog installer, it's simply ends with code 256. Any other gog install method like native Linux or dosbox etc works just fine, just the games that need the gog installer. Moving the whole thing to a local drive, install and move to nfs works but a bit of a hassle. Anyways as I said not sure if it's lutris or wine in general.

Are you using the flatpak version of lutris? I don't really use flatpaks much, but I do know they sandbox with additional layers of security/protection. Preventing access to network filesystems is definitely something sandboxey things do. Hopefully someone that actually uses flatpak can comment.

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Quoting: shorbergI wasn't going to comment on this because it is way off-topic, but having thought about it for a while I decided to do so anyway, in the interest of public education on neural diversity. Liam or moderators may remove this if they think it inappropriate.

Quoting: dibzYeah, one of the best and worst things about Linux is the vocal community. And let's be honest, the people that flock tend to have very strong personalities -- borderline autistic at times.

Autistic is not the word you are looking for here. It is a common and widespread misconception, but it really isn't what you are looking for to describe the individuals you are hinting at. Autistics are often asocial, generally not antisocial. Typically, if an autistic person learns they have said or done something that have hurt someone, they will feel intense remorse.

A "borderline autistic" person is a perfectly average person, you likely won't even notice anything different except perhaps slightly increased anxiety compared to baseline human their age. At most you might describe them as someone who likes to stay home and read a book on a Saturday every now and then.

They are not people who will try to rally the masses, they will probably just stand at the sideline wishing they could contribute more. There are exceptions though, a certain fellow countrywoman is a strong personality who does quite a bit to hold people accountable for the climate.

Quoting wikipedia,

QuoteThe autism spectrum is a range of neurodevelopmental conditions generally characterized by difficulties in social interactions and communication, repetitive behaviours, intense interests, and unusual responses to sensory stimuli.

The difficulty in social interaction and communication refers to discomfort and avoidance and reduced body language. But many autistics won't put themselves in most social situations to begin with, either because of a lack of interest in social activities or because it confuses them. Even mailing-lists, or forum posting is something that scares many.

Source: I've done a lot of reading on autism, I have talked to a lot of professionals, I have friends who are autistic and I am autistic myself. I am however far from an expert, and open to learn more.

PS. What I have described as autistics above is not a set of all people with autism spectrum disorder, it is a generalised set of the ones who are high-functioning enough that you are likely to have been in contact with them in something as complex as technical online discussions.

I appreciate the explanations. Though, my use of "Borderline Autistic" is actually close to home for me. Without airing my laundry on the internet, I will say that I used the term in the context that I learned it in the first place -- in a healthcare setting when diagnosing one of my children who I could absolutely see being a "strongly opinionated linux user" like many of us, heh.

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Quoting: EagleDelta

Quoting: dibzPersonally I still prefer how Debian labels things with stable / testing / unstable. It's clear what it is and isn't, I would consider unstable to be their bleeding edge. I'm not personally advocating using Debian or anything, it's just a good example.

The problem with that is that, as great as Debian is, "stable" runs a LOT of software that the upstream developers no longer support at all and haven't for years.

Which, IMO, is very different than what's happening here. glibc accidentally broke some software and games, but refuse to revert the change. Most projects don't take that kind of stance. They will revert breaking changes and work on a future resolution to the problem instead of pointing blame at someone else.

As for comments on Valve using an Arch-base. That's needed for what they do as fixes for gaming specifically are only found in newer software, drivers, and Linux kernels. Running something like Debian stable would be a nightmare for gaming as things are out of date and unusable for a lot of games really fast. Especially newer games and especially of those games (or WINE/DXVK/etc) rely on newer driver features that may require newer kernel features to function, etc.

Which is where part of the issue lies with gaming and Linux. A lot of "vocal" linux users and devs want GameDevs to develop for Linux, but ALSO to conform to what those "vocal" users/devs think is the "right way" and People don't work like that. Linux has to go to THEM and make their lives easy/easier when working with Linux and do so in a way that THEY are familiar with or they will just nope out and not care. And that will happen because the perception is that we, the linux community, don't care about their perspective.... so why should they care about us?

I wasn't actually advocating using debian stable (which I noted), it's simply a good example of a distro where updates are extremely unlikely to break it -- not that it's impossible, stable distros still receive security updates while they're still supported and you never know, some app or another might depend on the patched behavior.

Similar with Arch. I probably needed a /s for sarcasm. It's fine if you use arch by the way.

Yeah, one of the best and worst things about Linux is the vocal community. And let's be honest, the people that flock tend to have very strong personalities -- borderline autistic at times. Bad advice is extremely rampant, often times based simply on personal preference OR it puts themselves in a position of power where the advice seeker is forced to continue asking for help. It can be difficult for first timers to tell the difference. On the other hand, if one is able to navigate those waters, it's an amazing community with many different perspectives and often times intelligent reasoned discourse. Heck, look at the comment section on this site sometimes, it's rarely to the point of "requiring moderation" so to speak, but it can get fairly intense at times.

Unfortunately, and this isn't fair to engineers, but I tend to call your last bit and the behavior you describe the "engineer attitude." I'm a sysops guy, and I run into that a lot when dealing with purely-engineer folks, especially in more recent years (last 5 years maybe? could be 10...). The my-problem/not-my-problem strictness, which in the workplace can absolutely be necessary, but it can and often is abused as well. Some will recognize this as being strongly related to common workflows in practice today. You're a lot more productive the more work that isn't your problem, lol. Honestly it might be a little more fair to ascribe this to Project Managers, but certain personalities blend really well with it.

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