Quoting: Shmerl

Quoting: BOYSSSSSI mean clicking "Backup Game Files" is not an automatic process.

The problem is with restoring from backup. Do you need Steam client to restore what Steam client backed up?

Yes, but again nothing is said in the TOS about backups.
It seems you have a problem with the wording "require the automatic download and installation" of the TOS, no matter how you look at it the steam backup is not automatic so by that logic Valve is giving you a tool to break their TOS.

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"Steam and your Subscription(s) require the automatic download and installation of Content and Services onto your computer."
@Shmerl You have a problem with these words "require the automatic download and installation"
I can't understand your interpretation of that as TOS not allowing manual backup. I mean clicking "Backup Game Files" is not an automatic process.
To summarize:
1. Steam TOS wording says that it needs to install and auto-update your games, and if you move your games you can't auto-update so that means you break the TOS.
2. They have not clarified what happens with your purchased games if they shut the store down.
3. Valve are evil so if they do close the store they won't allow you to play the DRM-Free games that you have purchased.
Am I missing something?


EDIT:How do I tag a user? @ doesn't work.

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Quoting: Shmerl

Quoting: BOYSSSSSLet me get this straight, you are saying that you can buy a game on GOG and then go to piratebay and download it from there, and the GOG TOS allows that? I thought that you still need to download it from gog.com ....

GOG allows you to install the game from the personal backup. Steam does not (they don't necessarily enforce that for each game, but they still don't allow it). Analyze the difference.

That's really confusing, so Steam TOS don't allow you to backup your games, and yet in my steam library when I right click a game there is "Backup Game Files"

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Quoting: Shmerl

Quoting: tuubiI think the term DRM generally only applies to technical measures that restrict the use of a product. Licenses and legal restrictions are a related but separate subject.

If TOS requires you to use Steam to install the game, and then you go ahead and install it without it, DMCA-1201 and similar anti-circumvention garbage would treat it as a violation, which indirectly indicates that something like Steam is DRM because of that TOS. DRM was always about a combination of "measures" with legal garbage attached to them.

Let me get this straight, you are saying that you can buy a game on GOG and then go to piratebay and download it from there, and the GOG TOS allows that? I thought that you still need to download it from gog.com ....

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I use Outlook.live.com and there's this beta version with different design which I don't like, but all of a sudden the old version which I use started getting buggier and buggier, for instance there are emails that I can't delete (I delete 3 emails but when I go to the Recycle bin they are not there and I go back to the inbox they are there again) and I need to switch to the beta version to delete them, or when I check one email the second email I check doesn't want to scroll and when I try to click on a link I am shown another email as if I wasn't looking at the email but at the inbox. That bug doesn't happen on the beta version.
If Microsoft wants you to use something they will force you to use it one way or the other.

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Sleeping Dogs: Definitive Edition Because I want to play a game like GTA and they already ported it for Mac.

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@madpinger @meggerman Oh please, he said the f**k word like 3 times and bulls**t once for 37 minutes (That's the only thing I could consider foul language). This is why I hate Political Correctness, everybody has become so fragile they start crying the moment they hear a bad word, you can't even make jokes anymore. What happened to "Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me."

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Whenever steam forgets my credentials I just close it and open it again, most of the times it just logs in.

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@Brisse He's not saying that the statistics somehow show pirates, he's simply saying that large portion of Chinese Windows users use pirated Windows and that pirates are going to pirate, so don't expect money flooding because of some statistic.

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Also Titan Quest Anniversary Edition, but no Linux port :(

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