And, it's on for ~$3

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Quoting: pb

Quoting: GuestIt's a subtle point that your own post misses: we most definitely would have reached here without Valve.

It's missing because I don't think it's true. I'd argue that we weren't at this point two weeks ago and that we wouldn't be for a long, long time. I have 6k games in my steam library, over half of them only have Windows version (I got them through bundles etc.). Over the last five years I played maybe three or four (sic!) of these games. All the tools were there: wine, crossover (which I bought and only ever used to play gog version of The Witcher), lutris, recently dxvk etc. etc. - but it was immensely impractical and thus for me too much of a bother. Not to mention that I'm mostly gaming on SteamOS with my kids and there was literally no way to play Windows games on SteamOS. Now? For the last week+ I've been playing dozens of Windows games which I've been long wanting to play - nothing spectacular, mostly puzzle games that were reportedly working fine with wine, but required starting a "wined" version of steam. Kids have been playing the LEGO and Sonic games, with controllers, out of the box... *This* is huge. The simple fact that one of the biggest players in the gaming market came, took all the existing tools and put them to a proper use. Yes, all these tools were there and lots of people put great effort into making them work - and for that they deserve full credit. But tools are always only tools, they don't make great things by themselves.

I don't think this was as far out of reach as you think. Lutris has already made great strides in being a game client that automated installs for WINE based games. Obviously, Lutris can't have as tight an experience as Steam can for Steam games, but it's still quite good. Lutris had already given me that same experience you've just had, where you start playing games you wanted to play, because it's suddenly easy to play them.

Don't get me wrong, I think SteamPlay + Proton is a complete game changer, but I agree with mirv, we'd have got pretty close to the same experience eventually without Valve.

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Quoting: EikeAnother tip: 39 Days to Mars

Thanks for another great looking suggestion! Wishlisted ...

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Quoting: hummer010I still don't get the Bristol Ridge decision. Raven Ridge seems like a much better choice. I might be willing to actually buy it if it was Raven Ridge...

I had to jump through flaming hoops and drag my rear through a thousand miles of glass shards to get my hands on a Raven Ridge (35W). To the latest of my knowledge, OEMs aren't able to get 35W RR in volume still which is why there haven't been (m)any prebuilts with it yet. I suppose Atari could raise the thermal envelope for the VCS to get current batches of Raven Ridge but they probably want it to be as silent as possible.

Oh and I almost forgot!: Raven Ridge (any TDP) is still unstable on Linux with AMDGPU. It is prone to hard lockups which require force reset and, to add insult to injury, Raven Ridge Linux systems often need to be booted several times before successfully bringing up a graphical session. It doesn't matter if you have kernel 4.15, 4.16, 4.17, AMDGPU is simply incomplete for Raven Ridge as of right now.

So I can understand their decision to go with Bristol Ridge. It is still a fast chip.

That hasn't been my recent experience with Raven Ridge (I've got an HP Envy x360 with a 2500u). I don't think I've had a lockup since I started using 4.18. I'm rolling my own kernel to get the touchscreen working, but I haven't made any changes specific to Ryzen or Vega. I never had to boot multiple times to get a graphical session, ever.

I'll admit, the early days with this laptop were rather frustrating. Especially since my primary reason for buying this laptop was all the talk about how great the AMDGPU driver was.

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Thanks for another recommendation of a game I can play with my kid! This one, I don't have, so it's always great to find something new.

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I still don't get the Bristol Ridge decision. Raven Ridge seems like a much better choice. I might be willing to actually buy it if it was Raven Ridge...

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Thanks for the reminder Liam! My son and I had played this once a couple years ago, and then forgot about it. We picked it up again last night, and had a blast. It truly is a riot of a coop game!

"You grab the shields"
"Watch the walls, watch the walls!"
"No, no, the top guns, the top guns!"
"No, you drive, I'll man the guns"
"Check the map, I'll get these guys"

And then my wife pipes in "What are you guys doing?!?"

I suspect we'll be back at it again tonight!

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This is friggen cool!!!

I decided to go with Age of Empires II for my first test - somehow it seemed fitting to run a Microsoft game first :)

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Quoting: PlintslîchoIt's now official: Mimimi Productions (the team that created Shadow Tactics) is working on Desperados III.

https://desperadosgame.com/

The alpha screenshots already look amazing!

I hope they will release this game on Linux as well.
If so, this is going to be a day one purchase.

Totally insta-buy! Shadow Tactics is F'in awesome!

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