Switching to pipewire was a PITA earlier this year because I didn't know I needed to nuke `~/.config/pulse/` and maybe 1 or 2 other cache directories, but since has been doing just fine 8 Archlinuxes. I use standard Stereo, AUX, HDMI, D-Sub, 5.1, 7.1.

My ex-linux audio recording buddies biggest complaint used to be PulseAudio was terrible & JACK was very difficult to configure and maintain (2016?). They are more hopeful that pipewire is better but yet to try it. It seems like from talking with them they have a renewed interest in Linux especially because of the Steam Deck. I am hopeful that many new talented people develop interest as SteamDeck and Linux in general are amazing development platforms & devices.

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Quoting: MohandevirAll I know is: If this statement is just PR then SteamOS is over, because a lot of people already think that this is just steam machines all over again, and I'm worry that if Steam deck fails, then it'll have a huge negative impact in the progress of games running on linux.

Bruh, you got it all backwards, if people literally make the Steam Machines connection they will immediately have lower-expectations to begin with which will lead to pleasant surprise when it kicks ass.

The Doom & Gloom expectation problem is the same problem as the Hypetrain Choo Choo MF problem -- both are extremes not really grounded in reality.

The Deck is gonna be awesome, just not perfect -- does that clarify. They literally already sold out pre-orders for nearly an entire year. Can you imagine the infusion of developers, gamers, and average users into our community and what that will mean for all kinds of new github projects and the increase volume of gamers demanding support?

We good, homez. 2022 is gonna be lit.

Edit: Seeing some other sentiments in the comments I wanted to comment on

Quoting: whizseYeah, I think I mentioned this before, but it will be interesting to follow media reports. Going by ProtonDB* 82% of games tested work. That's pretty good. But if you focus on the top ten, only 50% work.

See ProtonDB stats 1 comment above and toggle the category drop-down on ProtonDB.com -- both of those numbers are not representative of Proton's capability because they are obviously specifically lower in Multiplayer which have very high levels of DRM. If EAC or BattlEye didn't exist those numbers would be in the 80s and 90s as is seen in other categories like Single Player.

Note to Valve: If you're reading this, please for the love of yourself, DO NOT put any Epic Games blobs in my kernel. It doesn't make sense to give a competitor that kind of power, and it's a potential vector for Epic Games, Timmy Tencent & China to have powers over me as a gamer -- I would appreciate some clarification on this at some point in the future and expect to not literally have a Chinese Root-kit running on my Steam Deck. Thank You.

Also, as we saw when Wacom made a Companion & Mobile Studio that competed with their ex-partner Microsoft Surface Pro (Gen 4?), we saw YEARS of driver issues -- I honestly would not be surprised if Microsoft was purposely sabotaging Wacom devices as they competed with Surface Pro -- we saw Apple sabotage iPhone 6 users and degrade performance for no good reason and then get sued and loose for that exact kind of anti-user thing. I really wouldn't bat an eye if Microsoft found "oopsies" for potential Steam Deck games who might choose to run Windows 10 or 11 -- they need to have the expectation that their Steam Deck experience is not as guaranteed as the official Valve Steam Operating System 3.0

Also, I would appreciate if someday there was a voice interactive AI that we have the GlaDOS announcer do it lol

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Expectations had to be checked sooner or later.

At this time of writing ProtonDB.com reports Gold++ on

QuoteSingle Player:

Top 10: 90%
Top 100: 89%
Top 1000: 82%

Indie Games:

Top 10: 90%
Top 100: 80%
Top 1000: 76%

Local Multiplayer:

Top 10: 90%
Top 100: 82%
Top 1000: 48%

I suspect the lowest number in Local Multiplayer is 100% due to DRM tech which should be ready around launch time.

To to summarize the numbers, as of September 2021 it's already at 80-90% -- my estimation is that it'll be generally at least 90% or more by launch.

Taking into account Pierre-Loup Griffais' generalized speech, I think his statement is still appropriate as VIRTUALLY all games will work out of box, or at the very least the hardware can do it.

Of course, no one really expects to be playing VR titles like Half Life Alyx, or Beat Saber on their Valve Index Steam Deck -- so if you take what he said with that in context -- it's obvious that it was meant as a generalization or summary of their compatibility & targets. They said themselves that if a game doesn't run, they see it as a "bug" which needs fixing so the future is bright especially considering not even Windows plays 100% of windows games -- many Windows games from the old times don't even run on new Windows.

The only question I have is were we better off grounding ourselves in reality & putting the anchor down now, or popping the bubble later after people had these expectations for a longer period of time.

I think most reasonable and not hype-train people already correctly interpreted reality -- I think we're likely better off since I'd rather have these news articles come out now instead of at launch or post-launch to sour the party punch.

It's sad that we live in a day of clickbait and fearporn to sell news as entertainment, another round of hype videos like the initial ones from VIP before launch could help a lot too.

I think most people's expectations will be met and they will like the device a lot.

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Having thought about it more, I remembered that the screen is 3:2 @ 2256x1504 I consider that a HUGE plus. It has the vertical resolution necessary for programming without DPI scaling . 16:9 was a major mistake and disaster -- the stupid TV manufacturers couldn't even make 16:10 (8:5) catch on because they cheaped out.
3:2 is a big plus.

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I'm really tempted to buy, but same boat -- I know Intel is pretty power efficient and the open source graphics pretty decent for laptop workflow but I just feel like AMD would be better for my OS.

I really admire what they are doing and their engineering seems very impressive and captivating, I would love to buy their stuff at some point.

I guess the biggest question is would I select a System76 or a Frame.work, they both have similar sheek aluminum chassis and appear to be well built.

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Quoting: furaxhornyx

Quoting: ElectricPrismI need a Steam Link so I can wishlist this and give it a closer look.

Here you are

Wonderful, Wishlisted* Definitely will keep an eye on my feed for updates

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Getting off of Itch and on to Steam got my attention.

I don't wanna dash to pieces people who like Itch, but there is so much STUFF on there I really don't have the time to go through it and find the good ones inamongst the bad ones (which are many).

I need a Steam Link so I can wishlist this and give it a closer look. I'm not sure if the graphics are off putting or charming just yet, big AoEIIDE Fan -- also I'm glad they are going commercial -- I would love a well crafted RTS like this and be happy to pay for it assuming it [x] all the boxes on what I would enjoy and is fun, multiplayer, looks good in 4k, doesn't lag crazy during wars, etc...

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Caesar III eSport in 3... 2... :P

Also where's the Super Tux Kart Annual eSport Tournament?

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System Shock 2 remake in this style would be lit.

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QuoteIt doesn't have a native Linux build yet

Well that explains why I didn't buy it yet. I have been looking forward to it, though I think I might have unwishlisted it since it's had no Linux icon for quite a while now.

I hope they release a beta or something in the near feature -- I'll be looking in the news feeds to see when its time to check it out closely.

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