Quoting: Purple Library Guy

Quoting: Mohandevirhttps://www.pcgamer.com/handhelds-like-rog-ally-have-inspired-microsoft-to-bring-xbox-features-to-pc/

This is another good example of Microsoft being unable to be a leader. It never saw this coming. It just reacts when it feels threatened... One more reason to stick with Valve; They are the only one able to kick Microsoft's butt into action!

Kind of impressive the way that article's writer managed to spend half the article talking about suspend/resume without ever admitting that the Ally running Windows does not have it but the Steam Deck does.

It feels like lots of paid reviews have been published, in the first days of official announcement. Since then, lots of critics, underlined the major flaws of the device (even hardware and heat issues, in some cases). In retrospect, if you want a good handheld experience, the Steam Deck is still king. If you want a mini pc or a laptop replacement (meaning docked or wired), the Asus Ally might be the deal. The batteries are barely usable on that thing. Who would have tought?! Duh!

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https://www.pcgamer.com/handhelds-like-rog-ally-have-inspired-microsoft-to-bring-xbox-features-to-pc/

This is another good example of Microsoft being unable to be a leader. It never saw this coming. It just reacts when it feels threatened... One more reason to stick with Valve; They are the only ones able to kick Microsoft's butt into action!

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Delicious!

https://www.theverge.com/23719210/asus-rog-ally-review

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Quoting: elmapulbut now with this competition, droping the price should be an priority.

Not saying it's not an idea. I was just saying that there is another solution: offer something that Asus doesn't. Better storage and better battery on the same Steam Deck APU may be easier to do (hardware refresh, not a Steam Deck 2). Keep the same price tags, but offer more per tier. 2230 nvmes are becoming more affordable.

Anyway, I trust Valve in keeping an eye on the situation. Who knows, it might bring more people on Steam and the handheld market without really hurting the Steam Deck sales. Some Windows fanboys decided to pass on the Steam Deck. They might be more interested in the Ally. For Valve, it would be a win/win. Remember the EGS threat? Valve just got out of it stronger and kept on course.

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Quoting: elmapul

Quoting: MohandevirThing is, the Steam Deck is already a success. The Steam Deck 2 will come, no matter what happens with the Ally, better, stronger and more feature stacked. Time will tell if Asus will still be in the handheld market, at that time.

the issue is, valve said they wont be relasing steam deck 2 any time soon, people were expecting an console life cycle of ~5 years, maybe a bit less maybe much more.
if valve relase an steam deck 2 any time soon, people would feel betreayed so they are in an complicated situation.
i think the only solution would be to drop the price, its definitelly possible, but then people who purchased an deck recently will want something as it happened with the people who purchased a few time prior to the sale where they gave it an discount.

i dont know how much they will have to drop the prices and if the new price should be permanent or not.
hopefully its not even nescessary, but asus being able to do an world wide launch before the deck , and the deck having to drop the prices sooner than valve expected can be a major blow.

Maybe... Or an actual Steam Deck refresh with better battery and 1tb nvme at the top tier. Maybe put a 128gb nvme in the low tier and the 512gb in the mid tier?

Just throwing ideas...

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Quoting: elmapul

Quoting: MohandevirIf so, I'll wait for the Steam Deck 2, in this case.

smokescreen or not that might kill the momentum that the deck have.
microsoft is famous for doing (among other stuff) vaporwares, promisse something, never deliver, but manage to kill the interest on the competition product, kinect was an good example, i was one of the ones fooled by the milo demo and one who thought "purchasing 4 wii motes to play with 4 persons is worse than purchasing one single kinect to play with a lot of people) not to mention xbox360 had better graphics than the wii.
luckly for me i was too poor to purchase any, otherwise i would regreat.

Thing is, the Steam Deck is already a success. The Steam Deck 2 will come, no matter what happens with the Ally, better, stronger and more feature stacked. Time will tell if Asus will still be in the handheld market, at that time.

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Quoting: Purple Library Guy

Quoting: MohandevirIn my case, battery autonomy is make or break. If all this raw power is wasted because you need to cap everything to gain minutes of playtime... What are you getting? A little more powerful Steam Deck with less input options, unreadable 3rd party apps, crapy os interactions and still worse battery autonomy (the Steam Deck's autonomy is already to the limit)?

It occurs to me that this bad feature of the Ally would compound with a bad feature of the OS they're using--with little battery time it seems to me you'd really want to be able to easily suspend a game and stop using battery, but someone was saying with Windows it won't do that.

Have you looked at the comments section of the video posted by @Slaapliedje?

Quoting: Slaapliedjehttps://youtube.com/watch?v=qLVgr29NMA0

4k thumbs up for the comment about the missing suspend/resume. By far the most liked comment. Didn't think it was such a big deal.

I must admit that without it...

*Low battery warning*
"-Oh! I must find the next save spot real fast..."
*System shutdown!*
"God... CENSORED!!! CENSORED handheld!"


Edit: Sorry, there is a comment with more thumbsup, but it's about the video editing.

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Just speaking about the value of the Ally... From what I read from different sources, I'm totally unconvinced... Like most of the PCGamers, I already have a more powerful PC... That's why I use my Steam Deck in handheld mode 95% of the time. The other 5% is for couch coop gaming and these games are not usually resource huggers. In my case, battery autonomy is make or break. If all this raw power is wasted because you need to cap everything to gain minutes of playtime... What are you getting? A little more powerful Steam Deck with less input options, unreadable 3rd party apps, crapy os interactions and still worse battery autonomy (the Steam Deck's autonomy is already to the limit)?

If it's a handheld as long as your power cord (who first said that? 😉), It kinds of defeat the purpose and makes it feel like a big marketing smokescreen, to me.

If so, I'll wait for the Steam Deck 2, in this case.

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Available at BestBuy... Physical presence or only online? This could hurt the Steam Deck.

Imo, GPD, OneXPlayer and AyaNeo are in danger.

I guess we'll see...

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If at least it was possible to sync more than one controller per dongles... Like the Steam Controllers. I don't have much usb ports available on my Nvidia Shield or Steam Deck docking station... Even the Ultimate Bluetooth edition requires a dongle per controller, in bluetooth mode? Am I getting it wrong? Doesn't make sense... Must be badly formulated or my english is just bad...

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